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Here is a link to a map of all reported 2008 piracy. This is a google map and you can zoom in to a high degree of detail in many areas of the world.

http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?option=com_fabrik&view=visualization&controller=visualization.googlemap&Itemid=89



There are also links to 2005, 2006, and 2007 maps so that you can compare activity and note world hot spots.

Enjoy learning about the recent history of piracy. I note that SE Asia has been a piracy hot spot for as long as I can remember reading up on the subject (30 or 40 years).

Perry
 
Thanks, Perry. Btw, can you recommend a book on the history of piracy?
 
Date: 12/7/2008 2:17:41 PM
Author: Harriet
Thanks, Perry. Btw, can you recommend a book on the history of piracy?
Sorry, I cannot.

My knowledge is based on 30+ years of reading various articles, one formal US Navy report, and several books on the concepts of living on a small vessel (boat/yatch) and sailing arroud various parts of the world.

I suspose my first fantasies as a kid was why not be a Pirate.... as in the movies. Then I started considering the other side of the issue. My biggest research came when the concept of owning my own boat and living on it - and sailing the buitiful parts of the world - came about.

Also, since my US Navy days I have always followed with interest the merchant marine (cargo shipping). I even thought of going that direction after the Navy and spending the rest of my life as a Seaman...

Do have a great day.

Perry
 
Perry,
Thanks anyway. I'm intrigued: Where have you sailed to? Incidentally, I've been on the ship that the Somali pirates tried to hijack. Twice! I also grew up near the Straits of Malacca.
 
If you really want to read about the current pirate situation, "Dangerous Waters" is a pretty good book.
 
Date: 12/7/2008 6:03:08 PM
Author: perry
Date: 12/7/2008 2:17:41 PM

Also, since my US Navy days I have always followed with interest the merchant marine (cargo shipping). I even thought of going that direction after the Navy and spending the rest of my life as a Seaman...

Perry

You should come over to the shipping world, Perry. We''d love to have you! (I grew up around it and work in the industry now.)
 
Date: 12/7/2008 6:16:07 PM
Author: Harriet
Perry,
Thanks anyway. I''m intrigued: Where have you sailed to? Incidentally, I''ve been on the ship that the Somali pirates tried to hijack. Twice! I also grew up near the Straits of Malacca.

While in the US Navy I did 2 Mediterranean cruises and spent a lot of time in the Caribbean. I’ve been a lot of interesting places – and througholy enjoyed playing tourest.
Two interesting things about me made this very educational:

1) I did not drink alcohol – so I saw no reason to hang out in the bars and other establishments that catered to the entertainment of sailors and other people.

2) I was always curious about the cultures I went to and almost always seemed to find a family that would invite me to dinner and discussion. I learned a lot about how the rest of the world sees things and why the standard solutions that work in the US will often not work elsewhere (not saying that something could not be done – but that the approach had to be one that fit local customs). If you are friendly and ask questions – and are willing to listen and try to understand; most people overseas will go out of their way to help you. At the same time I also learned why so many people veiw America as the land of opportunity as well. I wish most native born and raised Americans could see the same thing - too many take what we have for granted.



Date: 12/8/2008 9:22:26 PM
Author: princesss

You should come over to the shipping world, Perry. We''d love to have you! (I grew up around it and work in the industry now.)

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"It''s hardest to love the ordinary things, she said, but you get lots of opportunities to practice."
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Princess:

A great concept from long ago - not sure if it would be so workable now. I''ve developed another career and it’s been a long time since I worked on a ship. Not sure if I would be wanted - or if it would be the right thing for me at this time. Right now I am focused on some other things and want to finish out a project I am working on (another 1.5 years or so) – before moving on (If I move on).
But I wonder – is there some personal interest there as well. Since the reason I joined Pricescope was to build the perfect engagement ring…. which never happened; so there are always opportunities for those so inclined (although I have a great matched set of side diamonds, and a fantastic demantoid). That is of course assuming we are compatible in other ways too. At least I understand bling...


Perry
 
The world needs the USA to step up and preemptively sink a bunch of these pirate ships.
 
Date: 12/9/2008 5:43:53 PM
Author: Rank Amateur
The world needs the USA to step up and preemptively sink a bunch of these pirate ships.

Why? The US has almost no interest in the issue, and virtually none of the ships pirated are destined for the US or are US flag vessels. The US would also have great legal liablity if it were to do so in most cases.

Remeber, India announced with great fanfare that they sunk a pirate mother ship.... Opps.... It turned out to have been a civilian freighter that had just been pirated. Under Admiralty Law India will now end up paying the value of the ship and cargo - and claims for crew members killed.

The US has zero legal rights to blow any pirate ship out of the water unless it is involved in a direct attack on a US flagged vessel. Otherwise the US will be held responsible for the value of any ship and its claimed cargo sunk - and for claims for any crew killed or injured.



There are about 33,000 ships greater than 1000 gross tons of cargo registered in the world.

I propose that the owners of the ships and the countries that they are registered in should bear the biggest burden.

Personally, I think the press is making a bigger issue out of this than it is. Piracy has always existed - and always will. When the ship owners get seriously they will shut down most of the worst activities in the the major areas. They are the ones who legally can do so. Until then - the ship owners know the risk - and find that catoring to the pirates and paying them off is the cheapest stratagy.

Here is a list of where ships are registered so that you can judge yourself how much of a problem the US has: I have highlighted the US - and by my calculation about 3/4 of the vessels are registered to the countries that preceed the US. In addition, approximately 1/2 of all ships in the world are registed in the top 10 nations on this list.

Source: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/tra_mer_mar_tot-transportation-merchant-marine-total

#1 Panama: - 5,473
#2 China: -- 1,723
#3 Liberia: -- 1,687
#4 Malta: -- 1,220
#5 Russia: -- 1,178
#6 Bahamas, The: -- 1,177
#7 Singapore: -- 1,063
#8 Antigua and Barbuda: -- 1,011
#9 Hong Kong: -- 924
#10 Cyprus: -- 884
#11 Indonesia: -- 824
#12 Greece: -- 817
#13 Marshall Islands: -- 795
#14 Norway: -- 724
#15 Japan: -- 683
#16 Korea, South: -- 669
#17 Italy: -- 591
#18 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: -- 589
#19 Netherlands: -- 558
#20 Turkey: -- 545
#21 Cambodia: -- 544
#22 United States: -- 465
#23 United Kingdom: -- 449
#24 Philippines: -- 403
#25 Thailand: -- 400
#26 Germany: -- 394
#27 India: -- 316
#28 Malaysia: -- 312
#29 Man, Isle of: -- 305
#30 Denmark: -- 293
#31 Belize: -- 285
#32 Vietnam: -- 267
#33 Korea, North: -- 232
#34 Georgia: -- 222
#35 Ukraine: -- 202
#36 Sweden: -- 198
#37 Gibraltar: -- 180
#38 Canada: -- 173
#39 Spain: -- 169
#40 Netherlands Antilles: -- 152
#41 Iran: -- 141
#42 Brazil: -- 137
#43 Honduras: -- 136
#44 Bermuda: -- 132
#45 Cayman Islands: -- 132
#46 Comoros: -- 121
#47 Taiwan: -- 112
#48 Portugal: -- 111
#49 Syria: -- 108
#50 Finland: -- 87
#51 Azerbaijan: -- 84
#52 French Southern and Antarctic Lands: -- 77
#53 Egypt: -- 76
#54 Bulgaria: -- 75
#55 Croatia: -- 72
#56 Belgium: -- 66
#57 France: -- 61
#58 Mongolia: -- 61
#59 Saudi Arabia: -- 60
#60 United Arab Emirates: -- 58
#61 Barbados: -- 58
#62 Mexico: -- 56
#63 Venezuela: -- 56
#64 Sierra Leone: -- 54
#65 Australia: -- 53
#66 Nigeria: -- 52
#67 Tuvalu: -- 52
#68 Vanuatu: -- 51
#69 Saint Kitts and Nevis: -- 50
#70 Lithuania: -- 49
#71 Dominica: -- 48
#72 Chile: -- 46
#73 Slovakia: -- 43
#74 Bangladesh: -- 42
#75 Luxembourg: -- 42
#76 Algeria: -- 41
#77 Argentina: -- 41
#78 Morocco: -- 41
#79 Lebanon: -- 39
#80 Kuwait: -- 38
#81 Estonia: -- 35
#82 Burma: -- 34
#83 Ecuador: -- 31
#84 Switzerland: -- 27
#85 Jordan: -- 25
#86 Albania: -- 24
#87 Bolivia: -- 24
#88 Papua New Guinea: -- 24
#89 Qatar: -- 23
#90 Romania: -- 23
#91 Ireland: -- 23
#92 Sri Lanka: -- 22
#93 Paraguay: -- 21
#94 Latvia: -- 21
#95 Libya: -- 18
#96 Faroe Islands: -- 18
#97 Israel: -- 18
#98 Maldives: -- 17
#99 Colombia: -- 17
#100 Tonga: -- 16
#101 Pakistan: -- 16
#102 Iraq: -- 13
#103 French Polynesia: -- 13
#104 New Zealand: -- 13
#105 Uruguay: -- 13
#106 Cuba: -- 11
#107 Poland: -- 11
#108 Jamaica: -- 10
#109 Tanzania: -- 9
#110 Tunisia: -- 9
#111 Madagascar: -- 9
#112 Austria: -- 8
#113 Bahrain: -- 8
#114 Wallis and Futuna: -- 8
#115 Brunei: -- 8
#116 Trinidad and Tobago: -- 8
#117 Ethiopia: -- 8
#118 Turkmenistan: -- 8
#119 São Tomé and Príncipe: -- 8
#120 Guyana: -- 7
#121 Fiji: -- 7
#122 Moldova: -- 7
#123 Cape Verde: -- 7
#124 Mauritius: -- 6
#125 Eritrea: -- 6
#126 Cook Islands: -- 6
#127 Kazakhstan: -- 6
#128 Seychelles: -- 5
#129 Gambia, The: -- 5
#130 Yemen: -- 4
#131 Angola: -- 4
#132 Peru: -- 4
#133 Ghana: -- 4
#134 Puerto Rico: -- 3
#135 Kenya: -- 3
#136 South Africa: -- 3
#137 Greenland: -- 3
#138 Kiribati: -- 2
#139 New Caledonia: -- 2
#140 Micronesia, Federated States of: -- 2
#141 Mozambique: -- 2
#142 Togo: -- 2
#143 Sudan: -- 2
#144 Costa Rica: -- 2
#145 Laos: -- 1
#146 Namibia: -- 1
#147 Cameroon: -- 1
#148 Suriname: -- 1
#149 Djibouti: -- 1
#150 Congo, Democratic Republic of the: -- 1
#151 Dominican Republic: -- 1
#152 Oman: -- 1
#153 Equatorial Guinea: -- 1
#154 Somalia: -- 1
#155 Iceland: -- 1
#156 Samoa: -- 1

-- Total: 32,723




 
heard an interview with an old BBC journo - he said the african horn issues began with poor countries who could not stop big rich countries from fishing in their waters.
Fishermen fought back. It was easy and profitable = more weapons, faster boats, and before you know it they are pirates not fishermen.
If the UN did its job in the 1st place would never have happened
 
Date: 12/9/2008 5:43:53 PM
Author: Rank Amateur
The world needs the USA to step up and preemptively sink a bunch of these pirate ships.
naw the ship owners need to grow a pair and arm the ships.
A couple 40mm electric Gatling guns per ship will solve the problem.
 
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