Home Talking about your child all the time...

[MichelleCarmen]

Date: 3/15/2010 12:52:04 PM
Author: meresal

Date: 3/15/2010 12:37:31 PM
Author: jas
I decided to discuss this with my children, both 18-months. One just got accepted to law school, the other is a professional entertainer (v. popular in Europe) Aren''t kids amazing? Aren''t my kids amazing? All this accomplishment while they''re still pooping their pants. I''ve got some killer DNA.

People outside of my ''mommy'' and ''family'' circles are often surprised to find out I have kids. Like others have said, I love having the opportunity to use the non-mommy parts of my brain. If someone asks about my kids, I keep it short, unless they specifically ask for more info.

And, again, as mentioned, as a SAHM, I love asking other people about their lives...fodder for my daydreams!

Is it Ivy leage? My 20 month old was just accepted to Yale.

Just like his father and all the other men in our family. He''s wonderful... even wipes himself.

LOL! I can''t wait to see which of my friends do this. I have a feeling that I already know one of them.


PA- I totally understand. I can see calling other mommy friends when I need a get-away to discuss mommy things. I won''t drag a non-mommy friend to happy hour so that I can vent about baby related topics.

This has happened with moms I''ve spoken with. On and on about how their son or daughter was accepted into a program. One was an elementary school program I had read up on and so when a mom began talking about it and her child possibly going into it, I asked her a specific question re: the testing process and it turned out she had made it up because she didn''t even get the packet that was only handed out by the district for pre-selected children who had high test scores in certain subjects. lol

 

[Blenheim]

Date: 3/15/2010 12:57:09 PM
Author: Laila619
Another thing I don''t understand is when a woman on Facebook becomes a new mom and all her photos are now either of 1) her baby or 2) herself posing with her baby. Nowhere in any of these pics is her DH, or a family shot with both parents. It''s like he now ceases to exist!

Is the DH just a nobody now that the baby is here?

Well, somebody has to be behind the camera.

I wish that I had more pictures of the three of us, to be honest.
I was also guilty of having just G''s picture as my profile picture for a while, and in retrospect, a lot of what behind that was body image issues. I was still retaining some water and weight from pregnancy and my face just looked bloated and non-me-like for a while.

I agree with everyone else - to avoid becoming ''that mom'', keep up on other interests and find another venue for all of the baby-bragging and stories. The threads here work very well for the latter, and if you feel a need to show off a ton of photos and videos, keeping a baby blog is also a good option. Grandparents and great-grandparents love them, and people who don''t want to hear about it don''t have to go look.

 

[Mara]

eeee...i am trying not to be one of those moms. i am really aware of who i am with. if i am with all single girlfriends or married with no kids i am not going to be regaling them with tales of J''s bowel movements or that he rolled over. i even feel weird bringing photos to show them because i don''t want to be THAT mom hahaa. but if i am hanging out with my neighbor and her twins and a friend of hers who has kids then we''ll probably be talking about our kids in some way/shape/form at least part of the time. i think a lot of it has to do with being aware of who you are with and what the topic of conversations seem to be leaning towards.

on the flip side, i also hate people ONLY asking me about kid stuff since they knew we have a new baby. i don''t mind talking about all that, but i''m more than a mommy.

 

[trillionaire]

I love when moms create a FB page for their infant children, and then post as both the mother and the baby, and tag both people in photos! COOL! I was wondering what your 3month old was thinking!

I have a friend that is a SAHD, and he has started a blog, a FB page, and tags people EVERYDAY to tell the regales of his time with his kids. I think it''s cute, and wonderful memory for your kids later (if you print them out or something), but, um, I''m not that into your kids... he lost me when he started talking about staring into her deep brown eyes and falling in love, over and over again, then posted a video of her making normal baby noises and called it ''singing''. Yeah, she''s like 2 months old... she''s NOT singing... she probably has gas!

So yes, men are NOT immune...

 

[meresal]

Too funny re: the facebook pages. I know a girl that just set one up for her baby... I think she did it so that she didn''t annoy all of her friends with baby pictures. I can somewhat see where the thought came in, but it just doesn''t seem necessary. Just don''t post every freaking picture you take!

I actually set up a Family Page on a website called MyFamily.com. The people on it are all of my brothers and sisters, our parents, and our grandmothers. We can all post anything we want that is family related or that we want to share with the rest of the family.

Each person/family member has their own log in and password, but everyone is routed to the same home page. You can post as many family photo albums you want, put all of your kids recital times so the family members know ahead of time, and even annual birthday''s and anniversaries... and you don''t have to bore all of your Facbook friends with the annoying things that only close family *really* cares about, or pretends to at least!

Our family isn''t the blogging type, so this is perfect... and it''s Free!

 

[Kaleigh]

I would say I met most of my best friends through my kids. It''s pretty much how it works here. Now that both have graduated HS and are in college and soon to be graduating college, we have friendships that span over 15+ years...

The kids are the last thing we talk about. We have so many other things we want to discuss.

We will end the conversation, so all is good with the kids??

But that''s about it.

We are friends on our own level, the kids just lead us to each other...

It''s so fun!!!

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 3/15/2010 4:29:08 PM
Author: trillionaire
I love when moms create a FB page for their infant children, and then post as both the mother and the baby, and tag both people in photos! COOL! I was wondering what your 3month old was thinking!

I have a friend that is a SAHD, and he has started a blog, a FB page, and tags people EVERYDAY to tell the regales of his time with his kids. I think it''s cute, and wonderful memory for your kids later (if you print them out or something), but, um, I''m not that into your kids... he lost me when he started talking about staring into her deep brown eyes and falling in love, over and over again, then posted a video of her making normal baby noises and called it ''singing''. Yeah, she''s like 2 months old... she''s NOT singing... she probably has gas!


So yes, men are NOT immune...

There''s a wonderful little gadget called the "hide" button. I had to hide a close friend while she was pregnant. I understand that pregnancy is uncomfortable, but it was a choice, live with it! She''d post updates about how uncomfortable/tired/hungry/overdue she was and then leave these nasty updates telling everyone to leave her alone and stop asking how she was doing.

HIDE.

 

[decodelighted]

I think new moms should INVENT relationship drama for their tots. "Little Melinda has no game! She tried to pick up this hot 3 mo. jock the other night and totally spit up on him?"

 

[princesss]

Date: 3/15/2010 5:33:23 PM
Author: decodelighted
I think new moms should INVENT relationship drama for their tots. ''Little Melinda has no game! She tried to pick up this hot 3 mo. jock the other night and totally spit up on him?''

But they should be wary of the phrase "milkaholic" or any babies named "Lindsay" - just in case.

 

[Shoopy]

Well I only have pics of Sophia on my facebook page.

Wouldn''t you?

Seriously though, there''s 2 reasons why there are hardly any photos of me anymore:

1. I''m behind the camera
2. Even though I''m back to my pre-baby weight, the pregnancy morphed my body in a way that I really am insecure about so I never take photos of myself or let anyone take photos of me anymore. Ever.

My photos usually consist of:

-my kid
-my FI
-my FI with our kid

lol

I will admit that I have to bite my tongue when it comes to talking about her. It''s funny because while I was pregnant, I hated that everyone only wanted to talk to me about the baby. Now that she''s here I just want to tell everyone about cute sounds she''s making, milestones, challenges, etc but I need to remind myself not to.
I''m also insanely interested in other people talking about their children. I want to hear more. I want to see pictures. I want to know about your labor story. I really want to be all baby 24/7. Thank goodness for the PS mommy''s thread and Bump

.

 

[AllieLuv83]

I have a friend like that. All she posts are videos and pictures of her kid and comments on how perfect she is.

 

[Pandora II]

I think it is hard when you spend 24/7 with the baby day after day, month after month.

One of the reasons I went back to college was so I had something to think about other than what Daisy did today. I also like seeing my non-mummy friends as then we don''t have to talk babies all the time.

On the competitive side, it works both ways... Daisy had been relatively early to do some things and I''ve had really nasty reactions from other mothers including one ''friend''. It''s easier now that she''s older and so it''s more usual for her to be doing some things and I don''t get the ''How old''s your little girl'' followed by a stony silence like I was getting from random mothers I''d meet in the park with similar aged kids. I even lied about her age a few times. I think it''s normal to want to celebrate your child''s milestones - it''s how you go about it that is important though.

I do draw the line at people who tell you their child is going to do Medicine at Cambridge before they''re even out of nappies though!

Facebook - I think that this IS the place to post all the baby photos you want. If people want to look they can. It''s not like sending emails of pic of your kid to people. We don''t live near most of our families and so FB is the way we all keep in touch. The grandparents all love feeling that they are keeping up with what the children are doing even if they live the other side of the country. We have loads of Daisy and some of me & Daisy - DH takes the photos so he''s not in them!

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Date: 3/15/2010 5:33:23 PM
Author: decodelighted
I think new moms should INVENT relationship drama for their tots. ''Little Melinda has no game! She tried to pick up this hot 3 mo. jock the other night and totally spit up on him?''

My tot already shows preference for bad boys. No joke.

I am probably an annoying mom who talks too much about her kid. It''s hard when she is the one human being I am with 10 hours a day, pretty much everyday. I am a SAHM so I guess TGal gives me a pass

I really do try to limit comments about her but people ask about her. Don''t ASK if you don''t want to hear about it. I don''t play those manipulation games. I do admit I pretty much only take pictures of my kid but then again we were never really into taking random pictures of ourselves anyways. Besides NO ONE ever ask to see us. They know what we look like but people ask for new pictures of DD. If you don''t want to see them by all means don''t click on my photo album.

Mere, I do think it is funny you TRIED to get her to talk about something else and she just couldn''t. Poor thing. That is the danger of becoming a mom. I think it is so easy to lose myself that is why I make an effort to do things JUST FOR ME.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 3/15/2010 10:57:14 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring

Date: 3/15/2010 5:33:23 PM
Author: decodelighted
I think new moms should INVENT relationship drama for their tots. ''Little Melinda has no game! She tried to pick up this hot 3 mo. jock the other night and totally spit up on him?''

My tot already shows preference for bad boys. No joke.

I am probably an annoying mom who talks too much about her kid. It''s hard when she is the one human being I am with 10 hours a day, pretty much everyday. I am a SAHM so I guess TGal gives me a pass

I really do try to limit comments about her but people ask about her. Don''t ASK if you don''t want to hear about it. I don''t play those manipulation games. I do admit I pretty much only take pictures of my kid but then again we were never really into taking random pictures of ourselves anyways. Besides NO ONE ever ask to see us. They know what we look like but people ask for new pictures of DD. If you don''t want to see them by all means don''t click on my photo album.

Mere, I do think it is funny you TRIED to get her to talk about something else and she just couldn''t. Poor thing. That is the danger of becoming a mom. I think it is so easy to lose myself that is why I make an effort to do things JUST FOR ME.

Don''t stop posting pics of T. I''d go in withdraw. I adore her and have really loved getting to know you. You are a great Mom.
You could never be annoying , you are real and very down to earth. I love that about you!!!

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 3/15/2010 6:05:49 PM
Author: fiery
Well I only have pics of Sophia on my facebook page.

Wouldn't you?

Seriously though, there's 2 reasons why there are hardly any photos of me anymore:

1. I'm behind the camera
2. Even though I'm back to my pre-baby weight, the pregnancy morphed my body in a way that I really am insecure about so I never take photos of myself or let anyone take photos of me anymore. Ever.

My photos usually consist of:

-my kid
-my FI
-my FI with our kid

lol

I will admit that I have to bite my tongue when it comes to talking about her. It's funny because while I was pregnant, I hated that everyone only wanted to talk to me about the baby. Now that she's here I just want to tell everyone about cute sounds she's making, milestones, challenges, etc but I need to remind myself not to.
I'm also insanely interested in other people talking about their children. I want to hear more. I want to see pictures. I want to know about your labor story. I really want to be all baby 24/7. Thank goodness for the PS mommy's thread and Bump

.

Fiery, I would totally give you a pass. I want to hear everything about your kid after gazing at the adorable pic in your avatar for the last few weeks, or however long it has been up. Seriously. Cutest baby ever! Those cheeks???

so, about those noises she's making...

 

[Dreamer_D]

This story reminds me of my son and how he is always telling such interesting stories....

If you don't bore people with inane chatter now you won't after you have your child either. I rarely talk about my son when I am at work and out and about. I think most people don't even know I have a kid! LOL!

RE facebook No one wants to see pictures of us, they just want to see the baby anyways!

 

[rockpaperscissors67]

I think when I meet another mom, I''m one of those that talks a LOT about my kids! The main reason is that if the other person is also a mom, that''s easy common ground. The other reason is that most of my funny stories have to do with the kids and I fall back on humor when I''m not completely comfortable (happens a lot when I meet new people).

There are plenty of other things I could talk about, but I feel like either the other person would be bored out of their skull or totally not interested. For example, I *love* my job, but how interested would you be hearing about work that involves writing user manuals and training materials for software? Yeah, me neither. I also find that most other women don''t share my other interests, which include golf, going to the shooting range, reading horror/mystery books and watching the same types of movies. Heck, I can''t even talk to other women about jewelry because the women I know are simply not interested.

At work, I don''t talk about my kids that often, even though our company is really family friendly. I worry that too much kid talk will make me appear less professional. I worked at home for much of my pregnancy because I hated that so many conversations with co-workers involved my pregnancy. I appreciated their concern, but answering the same questions over and over got old fast.

As for FB...I have loads of pics of the kids on there and very few of me because apparently I''m the only one in the family that knows how to operate my camera. I have TWO pictures of me and the baby (and in one, I''m not even holding the baby!) and he''s 6 weeks old.

Meresal, I don''t think you have to worry about becoming one of those moms because you''re aware of the problem. It''s good to remember that even when you''re a mom, you''re still YOU.

 

[monarch64]

If my good friends talk nonstop about their kids I really don''t have a problem with it--but if random acquaintances do it that seems to bother me more! I guess I''m more interested in hearing about the kiddies I know well and care about how they turn out rather than not-so-close friends'' kids? I suppose it is also a self-absorption issue--I sometimes catch myself going on and on about either work or my love life and try to limit it unless someone''s really that interested in it.

The real reason I responded to this thread is because I saw so many responses in which the mothers are saying there are not many photos of themselves but there are tons of children and SO''s. I hate to hear that, but I see it all the time. In fact, if I look at my own family pictures, my mother curiously disappears after I started walking (my brother is 4 years older). It''s a shame...I don''t have many pictures of my mother and I together, and even fewer of our whole family. I''ve asked her about it before and she has similar reasons, like "oh, no one wanted to see pictures of me, they wanted to see you kids," or that she wasn''t happy with her weight, or that she wanted to make sure she captured all of the special moments.

Moms: PLEASE get in the picture! Your kids will want to see you in there later!

 

[meresal]

Monarch- Thanks for sharing. That is a grea thing to remember!

Tacori- Don''t you DARE stop posting pics of T!

(you too Fiery... love Sophia!)

 

[AllieLuv83]

Date: 3/15/2010 10:57:14 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring

Date: 3/15/2010 5:33:23 PM

Author: decodelighted

I think new moms should INVENT relationship drama for their tots. ''Little Melinda has no game! She tried to pick up this hot 3 mo. jock the other night and totally spit up on him?''

My tot already shows preference for bad boys. No joke.

I am probably an annoying mom who talks too much about her kid. It''s hard when she is the one human being I am with 10 hours a day, pretty much everyday. I am a SAHM so I guess TGal gives me a pass

I really do try to limit comments about her but people ask about her. Don''t ASK if you don''t want to hear about it. I don''t play those manipulation games. I do admit I pretty much only take pictures of my kid but then again we were never really into taking random pictures of ourselves anyways. Besides NO ONE ever ask to see us. They know what we look like but people ask for new pictures of DD. If you don''t want to see them by all means don''t click on my photo album.


Mere, I do think it is funny you TRIED to get her to talk about something else and she just couldn''t. Poor thing. That is the danger of becoming a mom. I think it is so easy to lose myself that is why I make an effort to do things JUST FOR ME.

Tacori...I feel like you talk about the good and the bad. When she ripped off her diaper, or demanded to sleep with her backpack, those kinds of things make it funny and cute! I just hate it when the mom literally posts "I have the most PERFECT BABY EVEEEEERR" it makes me feel like sheesh, does that mean you think that your kid will be better than mine?

 

[janinegirly]

Haven''t read all the responses, but I tend to get annoyed with people who talk too much about any one thing. I totally get that once you have kids they become your priority and really main past time. And actually most people love to hear a cute story about your child..because they can relate somehow! But to talk about it incessantly and exclusively shows to me a lack of exposure to anything outside of child rearing..or at worst, disrespect for others'' who might have their own stories to share!

I talk about C alot with certain people. But not everyone, not at work,etc. It''s not purposeful..I''m just in a different mode then. But I have eavesdropped and heard people on the train talk about NOTHING else but their child. And it sounds so annoying as a 3rd party! So I am conscious of my audience and try to ask others about what''s going on in their lives too.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Allie, I TOTALLY don''t sugarcoat things. That is true. My friend used to yell at me b/c T''s verbal skills seemed more delayed than her peers so I would make comments like "at least she is pretty." I was obviously joking, that is my sense of humor, but she was worried I was giving T a complex

My kid is not perfect. I''m not perfect. Braggers are annoying. Doesn''t matter if they are bragging about their kid(s), DH, house, vacations, etc...

meresal and Kaleigh, thanks ladies! I will not stop for the sake of your sanity of course!

I am loading pics as we speak.

The funny thing is every time I see a family member (parents included) they totally ignore me for the first mins or so. It is all about the kid. Haha. Funny how things change but I don''t mind. She''s a lot cuter than I am. Monnie makes a good point. The kinda woman who talks about nothing other than *fill in the blank* probably will be an annoying mom. I see lots of women get lost in their relationships. What''s the difference? Giving a choice I rather hear all about a 3 year old than a 30 year old.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Date: 3/16/2010 9:52:45 AM
Author: janinegirly
Haven''t read all the responses, but I tend to get annoyed with people who talk too much about any one thing. I totally get that once you have kids they become your priority and really main past time. And actually most people love to hear a cute story about your child..because they can relate somehow! But to talk about it incessantly and exclusively shows to me a lack of exposure to anything outside of child rearing..or at worst, disrespect for others'' who might have their own stories to share!

I talk about C alot with certain people. But not everyone, not at work,etc. It''s not purposeful..I''m just in a different mode then. But I have eavesdropped and heard people on the train talk about NOTHING else but their child. And it sounds so annoying as a 3rd party! So I am conscious of my audience and try to ask others about what''s going on in their lives too.

ha - on a side note. . .I wonder how many of us talk about diamonds too much in RL.

 

[Pandora II]

Was thinking a bit more about this thread - and some of my RL mom friends...

I tend to tell disaster stories about things whether it be work, hobbies, pets etc as I find people tend to enjoy hearing amusing stories of what so nearly went very wrong. So if I''m talking about Daisy to friends it will usually be about my devil child and what she broke/shop lifted/drove me crazy over.

I have one friend who is constantly telling me about every poop, every spit-up and then asking me if I don''t agree that her baby isn''t the cutest ever? Now I get that every mother thinks her child is gorgeous, I think Daisy is pretty cute myself, but I always assume that most people in the street coo over all babies and not because mine is ''special'' in anyway.

This girl OTOH, actually expects me to say that her baby is the most beautiful I have ever seen - and said that while she thinks Daisy is cute now, her daughter is much, much cuter as a smaller baby. Now, there are babies who I think are incredible looking - I''ve always thought that Robbie''s Des is a particularly attractive baby and very photogenic - but this baby isn''t one of them, she''s very average looking. zI''m not offended about what she said about Daisy, I just think it''s sad that someone would be so insecure that they need to say these things...

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 3/16/2010 12:57:13 PM
Author: Pandora II
Was thinking a bit more about this thread - and some of my RL mom friends...

I tend to tell disaster stories about things whether it be work, hobbies, pets etc as I find people tend to enjoy hearing amusing stories of what so nearly went very wrong. So if I''m talking about Daisy to friends it will usually be about my devil child and what she broke/shop lifted/drove me crazy over.

I have one friend who is constantly telling me about every poop, every spit-up and then asking me if I don''t agree that her baby isn''t the cutest ever? Now I get that every mother thinks her child is gorgeous, I think Daisy is pretty cute myself, but I always assume that most people in the street coo over all babies and not because mine is ''special'' in anyway.

This girl OTOH, actually expects me to say that her baby is the most beautiful I have ever seen - and said that while she thinks Daisy is cute now, her daughter is much, much cuter as a smaller baby. Now, there are babies who I think are incredible looking - I''ve always thought that Robbie''s Des is a particularly attractive baby and very photogenic - but this baby isn''t one of them, she''s very average looking. zI''m not offended about what she said about Daisy, I just think it''s sad that someone would be so insecure that they need to say these things...

First of all, Daisy IS one of the cutest babies I''ve ever seen. Seriously, she''s beautiful.

Second, I''ve told this story before, but I''ll tell it again because your story brought it back to the surface. My BFF, when her baby was a newborn actually asked me to RATE her baby. Literally said, "On a scale of 1 to 10, what do you think she is?" She wasn''t genuinely curious about my rating...she really thought the kid was adorable (she was cute, but funny looking in that newborn way) and wanted me to confirm it. I just looked at her agog and said, "I am NOT RATING your child! If I say 10, you''ll think I''m being insincere and if I say anything else, I''ll be in trouble!"

I agree on the disaster stories...my other friend, who is just a COOL person all the way around, does this with me and I with her. It''s like relationship drama...people are interested in the bad stuff...human nature.

As for thinking my kid is cute...it took me nearly two years to think she was pretty (I just posted about that on the toddler thread). My child is hugely unphotogenic and I thought she was funny looking for a long, long time. I got in trouble once with my mom because we were talking about how bad she comes out in photos and I said, "Mom, don''t you think if ALL these pictures show that she''s funny looking, that she actually IS funny looking?" I got in trouble for that one...my mom was not happy with me!

 

[Bev]

Date: 3/16/2010 10:00:35 AM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Allie, I TOTALLY don''t sugarcoat things. That is true. My friend used to yell at me b/c T''s verbal skills seemed more delayed than her peers so I would make comments like ''at least she is pretty.'' I was obviously joking, that is my sense of humor, but she was worried I was giving T a complex

My kid is not perfect. I''m not perfect. Braggers are annoying. Doesn''t matter if they are bragging about their kid(s), DH, house, vacations, etc...

meresal and Kaleigh, thanks ladies! I will not stop for the sake of your sanity of course!

I am loading pics as we speak.

The funny thing is every time I see a family member (parents included) they totally ignore me for the first mins or so. It is all about the kid. Haha. Funny how things change but I don''t mind. She''s a lot cuter than I am. Monnie makes a good point. The kinda woman who talks about nothing other than *fill in the blank* probably will be an annoying mom. I see lots of women get lost in their relationships. What''s the difference? Giving a choice I rather hear all about a 3 year old than a 30 year old.

Ugh, yes!!! Braggers are annoying. It''s one thing if the person is genuinely expressing his or her excitement, but there was a woman in our playgroup who would clearly brag about everything and almost wait for someone to comment.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Bev, those moms are annoying. I try not to compare my child to my friends (at least verbally!) I have a friend who''s daughter is VERY special. This kid is the smartest kid I have ever met. Clearly above and beyond what is considered normal. The best part is the mom totally plays it down. I appreciate that and that is probably why she is my friend. If I comment on her daughter she will either change the subject or say doesn''t matter they all even out by kindergarden. She is not a bragger.

Sometimes I feel awkward b/c almost ALL of my friends have boys. T is often the only girl at a play date and the moms ALWAYS without fail express their sadness for not having girls. I don''t say anything b/c it is a lose/lose.

 

[MMMD]

My daughters are 11 and 8 now I find that I talk about them a whole lot less than I used to. It''s funny to me now how obsessed I was over toilet training, words spoken, making sure they don''t bite or steal toys, that kind of stuff. I''m sure I''ve bored many a person over what was very very important to me at the time. Most of my friends have children the same age and I find that where we used to go to play groups to obsess over the kids now we go out to lunch and most of the time don''t discuss the kids (or husbands for that matter.) When children are really little they take up so much energy that it is an effort to realize your brain used to be used for other things than making sure you don''t forget to pack what you need in the diaper bag. That''s why it''s hard to be close friends with people who are at a different stage in life than you are.

 

[PumpkinPie]

I''ve known a few women like this, but I''ve also known women casually (i.e., work acquaintances) for long periods of time before finding out that they even have children. I hope to be more like the second category than the first if we ever have children.

 

[Rachel9]

Constant talk about kids doesn't bother me as much as talking about husbands all the time. lol