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Spread cut pear.

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Gaston2240

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I just recently purchased a pear shaped diamond. I wanted it to look very large face up. It is a 1 carat diamond but looks slightly larger due to the fact that it has a shallow cut. Does anyone have any experience with shallow cuts? Can a pear diamond still have a decent amount of brilliance with a depth of 49% and a table of 52%? Is a slightly spread cut worth sacrificing some brilliance for an all around larger appearance? I purchased it from Allurez. They seemed to have every fancy shape marked as a "excellent" cut. The diamond is h colored and eye clean SI1.
 
There are not specific proportions for what makes a brilliant vs. spread in pears. Can you link to a video?
 
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Not an expert, but the caveat do not appear well defined and blur together causing "mush" on. IGH the pointed and rounded ends. It also appears much darker than H and more included than SI.

What lab did the grading?

And are you within the return period? What is your budget and desired specs?
 
I've seen some really nice, shallow pears. It certainly is a different look. Is the stone a GIA certification? i'm more concerned about the color and inclusions. It looks fairly cloudy in the images and it has more tint than i'd expect in an H colored stone. But of course it could just be the snapshots... Are you still within your return window? DO you have the stone in hand?
 
Can you still return it?

49% is not a slightly spready pear. Thats really shallow. Just looking at the photos provided it looks rather "mushy" under the table which means
it will not have good light return. You may get some fire off the crown but I dont think you're going to get anything from under the table. This
is just my observation from the limited photos you have provided. A video would really help.

What is the carat weight and lxW on the stone? We can help you look for a stone that is on the spreadier side while still maintaining a decent cut.
I have my doubts about the one you have posted. If you have a video...please post...it could change my mind.

Edit...Pears already have reduced light return due to their cut. Your priority should be to first find stones
that are well cut (with good light return) then look at the lxW after that.

Edit...I went to that site you used. I tried to look at pears to see what they had to offer. There were
no pictures for any of the pears I pulled up. You can not pick pears by the numbers. You must have
images/videos. There are a lot of bad/ulgy pears out there and it will take forever to find something
decent without images.

We like James Allen for fancy cut shapes. Also BlueNile...Both provide pictures of the stones.
 
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Can you still return it?

49% is not a slightly spready pear. Thats really shallow. Just looking at the photos provided it looks rather "mushy" under the table which means
it will not have good light return. You may get some fire off the crown but I dont think you're going to get anything from under the table. This
is just my observation from the limited photos you have provided. A video would really help.

What is the carat weight and lxW on the stone? We can help you look for a stone that is on the spreadier side while still maintaining a decent cut.
I have my doubts about the one you have posted. If you have a video...please post...it could change my mind.

Edit...Pears already have reduced light return due to their cut. Your priority should be to first find stones
that are well cut (with good light return) then look at the lxW after that.

Edit...I went to that site you used. I tried to look at pears to see what they had to offer. There were
no pictures for any of the pears I pulled up. You can not pick pears by the numbers. You must have
images/videos. There are a lot of bad/ulgy pears out there and it will take forever to find something
decent without images.

We like James Allen for fancy cut shapes. Also BlueNile...Both provide pictures of the stones.
The carat weight is .92 length 9.15 x 5.50. I am not in the return window but I will sell it if it does not look cut ideally. Unfortunately as of now I have no videos. It is GIA Graded Thanks for the input though!
 
I've seen some really nice, shallow pears. It certainly is a different look. Is the stone a GIA certification? i'm more concerned about the color and inclusions. It looks fairly cloudy in the images and it has more tint than i'd expect in an H colored stone. But of course it could just be the snapshots... Are you still within your return window? DO you have the stone in hand?
The diamond is Gia certified. It gas an H SI 1 rating. It also has strong flouresence. Would I be able to get away with a lower colored pear with a better cut such as a k color on a gold setting?
 
The diamond is Gia certified. It gas an H SI 1 rating. It also has strong flouresence. Would I be able to get away with a lower colored pear with a better cut such as a k color on a gold setting?

it depends on the look you're going for. Will it look WHITE? probably not. You'll see tint from the side, maybe a warm, creamy eggshell color looking from the top down. It's also highly likely that color will be more prominent in the tip of the stone. Especially with a fancy cut you're going to see more color than in a round. if you want a white, white stone then don't go that low in color.

What kind of setting are you going for? A bezel or halo would help maximize finger real estate if that's your biggest concern.
 
Do you have a budget for a new stone or no?

Just FYI for future reference you want to find stones where the center facets are clear, distinct, and well defined. Those facets should return light well.
like the stones below. As the stone moves you want the nice facets to go as far as possible down into the point and up into the top rounded end.
Try to minimize the "mush" (circled in red) at the point of stones.


pear snip.PNGpear snip.PNG

Not good stones... black bow-tie
pear with black bow-tie.PNG
lower color where you see color difference between the mush and well defined facets (that there arent enough of). Too much mush.
marked pear.PNG
Pear with "shoulders". The rounded end should be, well, rounded and not have any rounded off corners.
pear with shoulders.png
You might try to stick with a 4-main (sort of crushed ice look...not my favorite), however, I think they tend to perform better when shallow...

I think your stone is probably a 4-Main like the stone below. Its hard to tell though because I cant pick out the "real" facets vs the virtual facets.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped/0.91-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-sku-3143362
 
it depends on the look you're going for. Will it look WHITE? probably not. You'll see tint from the side, maybe a warm, creamy eggshell color looking from the top down. It's also highly likely that color will be more prominent in the tip of the stone. Especially with a fancy cut you're going to see more color than in a round. if you want a white, white stone then don't go that low in color.

What kind of setting are you going for? A bezel or halo would help maximize finger real estate if that's your biggest concern.


Just a plane 6 prong yellow gold 2mm solitaire on a 1.2 k si2
 
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