Sorority Fashion Rules

[wyndham]

Date: 2/11/2010 5:11:48 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 2/11/2010 5:02:49 PM
Author: monarch64
Ok, I just searched for, found, and read the guidelines in entirety. The whole thing was sort of tongue-in-cheek and honestly sounded more like advice and suggestions rather than some mean-girl b.s. Much ado about nothing, as I suspected.

Agreed. The list is actually kind of funny. Plus, isn''t the point of rushing that you''re being judged? She''s just giving a clear rubric ahead of time.

Just wanted to point out that this document was probably written by a member of Pi Phi (I''m guessing their recruitment chair?) and distributed internally to EXISTING sorority members. This is a guide meant to apply during the week of rush / recruitment only -- not ''rules for a lifetime'' or anything like that (although obviously we can all agree that some of them are good life rules to live by...ahem...muffin top!!).

These sorts of ''rules'' were common at my alma mater during rush week, too -- I don''t think there''s really anything wrong with them. I think this was intended to be sort of ''tongue in cheek'' while at the same time giving existing sorority members an idea of what to wear to each recruitment / rush round. If Cornell is anything like my alma mater, each sorority has a different ''theme'' to each round of recruitment, thus the dress code. One round might have a disco theme, so the members are encouraged to wear club attire (i.e. maybe the satin section). One round might be philanthropy and might require all members to wear jeans and polo shirts. In my opinion, there''s nothing wrong with asking group members to sport a cohesive look when you''re looking to make a good impression on potential new members.

I didn''t view the "American Apparel'' leggings as an elitist, brand-centric comment so much as I thought of it as the writer trying to say "ladies, let''s be a little classier than leggings this week". The brand inclusion was strange, but I think she probably just meant that she wanted the members to look nice, not like they''re going to the library to study.

Sorority rush is just like any other recruiting process, so it makes sense that the chapter members would want to put forward a good impression. Like fiery said, anyone who recruits on behalf of a corporation probably has to stick to a dress code as well...so I just view the sorority rules as a version of that.

Just my .02!

 

[monarch64]

Date: 2/11/2010 5:40:05 PM
Author: wyndham

Date: 2/11/2010 5:11:48 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 2/11/2010 5:02:49 PM
Author: monarch64
Ok, I just searched for, found, and read the guidelines in entirety. The whole thing was sort of tongue-in-cheek and honestly sounded more like advice and suggestions rather than some mean-girl b.s. Much ado about nothing, as I suspected.

Agreed. The list is actually kind of funny. Plus, isn''t the point of rushing that you''re being judged? She''s just giving a clear rubric ahead of time.

Just wanted to point out that this document was probably written by a member of Pi Phi (I''m guessing their recruitment chair?) and distributed internally to EXISTING sorority members. This is a guide meant to apply during the week of rush / recruitment only -- not ''rules for a lifetime'' or anything like that (although obviously we can all agree that some of them are good life rules to live by...ahem...muffin top!!).

These sorts of ''rules'' were common at my alma mater during rush week, too -- I don''t think there''s really anything wrong with them. I think this was intended to be sort of ''tongue in cheek'' while at the same time giving existing sorority members an idea of what to wear to each recruitment / rush round. If Cornell is anything like my alma mater, each sorority has a different ''theme'' to each round of recruitment, thus the dress code. One round might have a disco theme, so the members are encouraged to wear club attire (i.e. maybe the satin section). One round might be philanthropy and might require all members to wear jeans and polo shirts. In my opinion, there''s nothing wrong with asking group members to sport a cohesive look when you''re looking to make a good impression on potential new members.

I didn''t view the ''American Apparel'' leggings as an elitist, brand-centric comment so much as I thought of it as the writer trying to say ''ladies, let''s be a little classier than leggings this week''. The brand inclusion was strange, but I think she probably just meant that she wanted the members to look nice, not like they''re going to the library to study.

Sorority rush is just like any other recruiting process, so it makes sense that the chapter members would want to put forward a good impression. Like fiery said, anyone who recruits on behalf of a corporation probably has to stick to a dress code as well...so I just view the sorority rules as a version of that.

Just my .02!

Neither did I. She cited several designers/brands throughout the guidelines, but they were examples of a certain look, not an order to rushees to only wear or NOT wear those designers or brands.

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" --Eleanor Roosevelt

The idea that these guidelines were meant in a mean-spirited way, or to deliberately exclude people who can''t necessarily afford certain brand-names, etc. is bogus. Certainly that type of thing exists, but what is equally declasse is a journalist intentionally spinning the story to make out members of the Pi Phi organization look like super bitchy mean girls who want to "keep out" the average pony-tailed, AA legging-wearing co-ed who doesn''t wear D&G every Saturday night. Drama, drama, drama.

 

[wyndham]

Date: 2/11/2010 5:52:10 PM
Author: monarch64


Neither did I. She cited several designers/brands throughout the guidelines, but they were examples of a certain look, not an order to rushees to only wear or NOT wear those designers or brands.

'No one can make you feel inferior without your consent' --Eleanor Roosevelt

The idea that these guidelines were meant in a mean-spirited way, or to deliberately exclude people who can't necessarily afford certain brand-names, etc. is bogus. Certainly that type of thing exists, but what is equally declasse is a journalist intentionally spinning the story to make out members of the Pi Phi organization look like super bitchy mean girls who want to 'keep out' the average pony-tailed, AA legging-wearing co-ed who doesn't wear D&G every Saturday night. Drama, drama, drama.

Hey Monarch,
I didn't mean *you* thought that about the leggings! I think you and I are very much on the same page. Other people had written about the leggings so I was addressing that too. I should've deleted your quote!
I was actually replying to princesss's comment because I don't think this 'guide' was intended to be for any of the potential new members / rushees -- it was for the existing Pi Phi members. Just wanted to clarify...but if it was by any chance intended for the potential new members / rushees...YIKES!

 

[monarch64]

Date: 2/11/2010 6:00:22 PM
Author: wyndham

Date: 2/11/2010 5:52:10 PM
Author: monarch64




Neither did I. She cited several designers/brands throughout the guidelines, but they were examples of a certain look, not an order to rushees to only wear or NOT wear those designers or brands.

'No one can make you feel inferior without your consent' --Eleanor Roosevelt

The idea that these guidelines were meant in a mean-spirited way, or to deliberately exclude people who can't necessarily afford certain brand-names, etc. is bogus. Certainly that type of thing exists, but what is equally declasse is a journalist intentionally spinning the story to make out members of the Pi Phi organization look like super bitchy mean girls who want to 'keep out' the average pony-tailed, AA legging-wearing co-ed who doesn't wear D&G every Saturday night. Drama, drama, drama.

Hey Monarch,
I didn't mean *you* thought that about the leggings! I think you and I are very much on the same page. Other people had written about the leggings so I was addressing that too. I should've deleted your quote!
I was actually replying to princesss's comment because I don't think this 'guide' was intended to be for any of the potential new members / rushees -- it was for the existing Pi Phi members. Just wanted to clarify...but if it was by any chance intended for the potential new members / rushees...YIKES!

Oh, no worries! I didn't take it that way at all. ETA: I was agreeing with your point about the leggings.

I thought it was intended for rushees? I'm so confused. Either way, I still find it hilarious and I don't think it's so terrible.

 

[jewelz617]

I think this is just supposed to be silly. I mean, didn''t anyone else see "Mean Girls"?

Their whole clique had rules just like this. You can only wear sweats once, you have to wear pink on Wednesday, you can only wear jeans on Friday, you have to shave your legs every single day, no repeat outfits.

I really don''t like the idea of sororities anyway, but I *hope* this isn''t serious.

 

[monarch64]

Date: 2/11/2010 6:21:05 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678
I think this is just supposed to be silly. I mean, didn't anyone else see 'Mean Girls'?

Their whole clique had rules just like this. You can only wear sweats once, you have to wear pink on Wednesday, you can only wear jeans on Friday, you have to shave your legs every single day, no repeat outfits.

I really don't like the idea of sororities anyway, but I *hope* this isn't serious.

??? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Kidding. Did you read this thread, PA? Or the guidelines? Or the yahoo article (link in the very first post)?

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 2/11/2010 6:25:15 PM
Author: monarch64

Date: 2/11/2010 6:21:05 PM

Author: PinkAsscher678

I think this is just supposed to be silly. I mean, didn't anyone else see 'Mean Girls'?



Their whole clique had rules just like this. You can only wear sweats once, you have to wear pink on Wednesday, you can only wear jeans on Friday, you have to shave your legs every single day, no repeat outfits.


I really don't like the idea of sororities anyway, but I *hope* this isn't serious.

??? I have no idea what you're talking about.


Kidding. Did you read this thread, PA? Or the guidelines? Or the yahoo article (link in the very first post)?

Yes, I read the article. The point I was trying to make was that this is obviously a joke. Anyone who saw Mean Girls knows it was a COMEDY, this seems to be a parody of it. I wouldn't have commented if I hadn't read it.

 

[princesss]

Date: 2/11/2010 6:00:22 PM
Author: wyndham

Date: 2/11/2010 5:52:10 PM

Author: monarch64



Neither did I. She cited several designers/brands throughout the guidelines, but they were examples of a certain look, not an order to rushees to only wear or NOT wear those designers or brands.


''No one can make you feel inferior without your consent'' --Eleanor Roosevelt


The idea that these guidelines were meant in a mean-spirited way, or to deliberately exclude people who can''t necessarily afford certain brand-names, etc. is bogus. Certainly that type of thing exists, but what is equally declasse is a journalist intentionally spinning the story to make out members of the Pi Phi organization look like super bitchy mean girls who want to ''keep out'' the average pony-tailed, AA legging-wearing co-ed who doesn''t wear D&G every Saturday night. Drama, drama, drama.

Hey Monarch,

I didn''t mean *you* thought that about the leggings! I think you and I are very much on the same page. Other people had written about the leggings so I was addressing that too. I should''ve deleted your quote!

I was actually replying to princesss''s comment because I don''t think this ''guide'' was intended to be for any of the potential new members / rushees -- it was for the existing Pi Phi members. Just wanted to clarify...but if it was by any chance intended for the potential new members / rushees...YIKES!

Makes sense. Still, though, it''s a rubric for judging - just the other way around.

If it''s meant for the girls already in the sorority, it''s not even the craziest I''ve heard of. My friend''s sorority was only allowed to go #2 (for lack of a better euphemism) in one particular bathroom, and weren''t allowed to toot in front of the potential new recruits.

 

[havernell]

Date: 2/11/2010 6:29:17 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678

Yes, I read the article. The point I was trying to make was that this is obviously a joke. Anyone who saw Mean Girls knows it was a COMEDY, this seems to be a parody of it. I wouldn't have commented if I hadn't read it.

I'm a grad student at Cornell, and judging by what I saw during rush week, this memo was no joke. Sororities definitely influence how their members dress.

I do believe that the memo was meant for current members of this sorority to instruct them on what to wear during rush week, but let me tell you that the rushees also learn to conform and dress the part very early (since they want to be chosen after all). I always feel pity for all of the freshman girls in bare legs and heels tromping around north campus in January in upstate NY!! There surely must be an easier way to make friends!

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 2/11/2010 6:59:06 PM
Author: havernell

Date: 2/11/2010 6:29:17 PM

Author: PinkAsscher678


Yes, I read the article. The point I was trying to make was that this is obviously a joke. Anyone who saw Mean Girls knows it was a COMEDY, this seems to be a parody of it. I wouldn''t have commented if I hadn''t read it.

I''m a grad student at Cornell, and judging by what I saw during rush week, this memo was no joke. Sororities definitely influence how their members dress.


I do believe that the memo was meant for current members of this sorority to instruct them on what to wear during rush week, but let me tell you that the rushees also learn to conform and dress the part very early (since they want to be chosen after all). I always feel pity for all of the freshman girls in bare legs and heels tromping around north campus in January in upstate NY!! There surely must be an easier way to make friends!

Well if it''s not a joke that''s incredibly sad. Hopefully my daughter will never feed into that crapola. I want her to embrace being an individual.

 

[monarch64]

Date: 2/11/2010 7:09:21 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678

Date: 2/11/2010 6:59:06 PM
Author: havernell

Date: 2/11/2010 6:29:17 PM

Author: PinkAsscher678


Yes, I read the article. The point I was trying to make was that this is obviously a joke. Anyone who saw Mean Girls knows it was a COMEDY, this seems to be a parody of it. I wouldn''t have commented if I hadn''t read it.

I''m a grad student at Cornell, and judging by what I saw during rush week, this memo was no joke. Sororities definitely influence how their members dress.


I do believe that the memo was meant for current members of this sorority to instruct them on what to wear during rush week, but let me tell you that the rushees also learn to conform and dress the part very early (since they want to be chosen after all). I always feel pity for all of the freshman girls in bare legs and heels tromping around north campus in January in upstate NY!! There surely must be an easier way to make friends!

Well if it''s not a joke that''s incredibly sad. Hopefully my daughter will never feed into that crapola. I want her to embrace being an individual.

Why is it crapola? Being upfront about conformity is crapola? I don''t see it that way at all. In fact, the label of being an "individual" is just as conformist sometimes.

This is not directed at you, PA, but frankly I am sick and tired of this attitude of embracing our uniqueness or individuality or diversity. Why can''t we celebrate our similarities? And yes, we all have things about us that make us different, but as far as uniqueness goes, it''s so freaking self-flattering to think of yourself as TOTALLY unique, there is NO ONE in the world like me, etc. Ironically, it''s usually those who follow that mentality who expect to find their SOUL MATE. Someone who "gets them" is just like them, blah blah blah.

For the record, I was a GDI.

Hate is hate, and whether someone is right or wrong to come up with a set of guidelines for an organization comprised of individuals who support such rules is beside the point here. Because some think it''s wrong, this girl who came up with the guidelines has been bombarded with hateful emails, the comments about her on websites are just awful, and I honestly feel sorry for her. If anyone wants to talk about "mean girls" take a look in the mirror.

Rant over.

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 2/11/2010 7:22:09 PM
Author: monarch64

Date: 2/11/2010 7:09:21 PM

Author: PinkAsscher678

Date: 2/11/2010 6:59:06 PM

Author: havernell

Date: 2/11/2010 6:29:17 PM


Author: PinkAsscher678



Yes, I read the article. The point I was trying to make was that this is obviously a joke. Anyone who saw Mean Girls knows it was a COMEDY, this seems to be a parody of it. I wouldn''t have commented if I hadn''t read it.

I''m a grad student at Cornell, and judging by what I saw during rush week, this memo was no joke. Sororities definitely influence how their members dress.



I do believe that the memo was meant for current members of this sorority to instruct them on what to wear during rush week, but let me tell you that the rushees also learn to conform and dress the part very early (since they want to be chosen after all). I always feel pity for all of the freshman girls in bare legs and heels tromping around north campus in January in upstate NY!! There surely must be an easier way to make friends!

Well if it''s not a joke that''s incredibly sad. Hopefully my daughter will never feed into that crapola. I want her to embrace being an individual.

Why is it crapola? Being upfront about conformity is crapola? I don''t see it that way at all. In fact, the label of being an ''individual'' is just as conformist sometimes.


This is not directed at you, PA, but frankly I am sick and tired of this attitude of embracing our uniqueness or individuality or diversity. Why can''t we celebrate our similarities? And yes, we all have things about us that make us different, but as far as uniqueness goes, it''s so freaking self-flattering to think of yourself as TOTALLY unique, there is NO ONE in the world like me, etc. Ironically, it''s usually those who follow that mentality who expect to find their SOUL MATE. Someone who ''gets them'' is just like them, blah blah blah.


For the record, I was a GDI.


Hate is hate, and whether someone is right or wrong to come up with a set of guidelines for an organization comprised of individuals who support such rules is beside the point here. Because some think it''s wrong, this girl who came up with the guidelines has been bombarded with hateful emails, the comments about her on websites are just awful, and I honestly feel sorry for her. If anyone wants to talk about ''mean girls'' take a look in the mirror.


Rant over.

Yeah... and how is that NOT directed at me? Frankly, I think you''ve been trying to pick an argument with me for God only knows what reason.

I think it''s total crap that sororities pull this. When I send my daughter off to receive a $40,000 a year education, I''m sending her to LEARN. Her priority is to learn and study and have fun with her friends, not stress out because she doesn''t fit into a Ralph Lauren mini dress. Those are not the kind of priorities I expect her to leave college life with.

I think you''re way out of line for insulting the way I''m choosing to raise my child. I never said I want her to be a narcissist who thinks she''s the most unique thing ever to walk the earth. I want her to be a grounded girl with her priorities in order and YES, embrace her individual sense of self and self worth. I don''t want her feeling of security and worth to be wrapped up in the right hair, clothing and accessories. It''s not right for this girl to be harassed, OBVIOUSLY. Never said it was! Anyone who bothers to e-mail nasty letters to that girl is a moron. Does that mean I would encourage my daughter to sign onto that kind of scrutiny and image obsession? Uh, no.

 

[monarch64]

PA, I said my post was not directed at you. That is all.

 

[lyra]

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 2/11/2010 7:50:08 PM
Author: monarch64
PA, I said my post was not directed at you. That is all.

 

[monarch64]

Date: 2/11/2010 8:00:06 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678

Date: 2/11/2010 7:50:08 PM
Author: monarch64
PA, I said my post was not directed at you. That is all.

Again, I'm sorry you took it the wrong way, but my post was not directed at you or how you raise your child. You brought up the idea of embracing one's individuality. Had you read the entire thread, the article, the guidelines themselves, you would maybe see the point i was making a bit more clearly. It wasn't about you.

And you know what? I apologize. I should not have quoted any of your post in my response. My disclaimer was not sufficient. Won't happen again.

 

[iheartscience]

I saw this a while ago. I admire her attention to detail! If I were making a dress code it would be super detailed just like that. The rules would be different (no Tory Burch flats would be involved, that''s for sure!

) but I would pretty much LOVE to make one.

And really-does anyone signing up for a sorority think they''re going to be asked to express their individuality through their clothing?

 

[yssie]

...okay, the girls who want to join are signing up for it! And frankly, most sororities are all about image - isn't that why you join? It's why most of my friends joined, and why I didn't.



It's actually kinda funny, and I can appreciate what she was trying to convey... satin does not look good on certain body types, and muffin tops don't look good on anyone! I doubt they have weekly weigh-ins.. and if they do, well, they signed up for it. The attention to detail is remarkable.

 

[cakeny]

First of all - holla fellow Big Red alum

Date: 2/11/2010 8:16:43 PM
Author: thing2of2
And really-does anyone signing up for a sorority think they''re going to be asked to express their individuality through their clothing?

Yeesh, seriously. That''s what I''m sayin! I''ve now seen this article posted multiple times, including FB, and I find the hoopla (and vitriol) surrounding this pretty funny. And a little confusing. Is anyone really that shocked or surprised? And the dress code guidelines were pretty harmless as far as sorority "demands" go. No, I did not rush.

 

[elrohwen]

Date: 2/11/2010 8:34:53 PM
Author: cakeny
First of all - holla fellow Big Red alum

Date: 2/11/2010 8:16:43 PM
Author: thing2of2
And really-does anyone signing up for a sorority think they''re going to be asked to express their individuality through their clothing?

Yeesh, seriously. That''s what I''m sayin! I''ve now seen this article posted multiple times, including FB, and I find the hoopla (and vitriol) surrounding this pretty funny. And a little confusing. Is anyone really that shocked or surprised? And the dress code guidelines were pretty harmless as far as sorority ''demands'' go. No, I did not rush.

I''ll admit I find the list a bit ridiculous (and a bit obnoxious) but sending hate mail to the girl who created it? Geez. After reading the initial article I thought it was a bit "Mean Girls"-esque, but after reading the whole list I think it''s pretty funny. I still don''t get what girls would want to sign up for this kind of thing (which was kind of the point of my initial post) but to each their own I guess. Even if it was a totally mean spirited list, I don''t think the creator has earned hate mail. I also agree it''s not too big of a shock for anyone who went to a school that involved the Greek system.

to another Big Red

 

[elrohwen]

I wanted to add the full quote about wearing satin:

Satin. No one looks good in satin dresses unless they''re from Betsy Johnson or Dolce and Gabbana, you weigh less than 130 pounds, have 3 pairs of spanks on, and it''s New Years Eve.


Hahaha.

 

[cakeny]

Date: 2/11/2010 9:23:01 PM
Author: elrohwen
I wanted to add the full quote about wearing satin:


Satin. No one looks good in satin dresses unless they''re from Betsy Johnson or Dolce and Gabbana, you weigh less than 130 pounds, have 3 pairs of spanks on, and it''s New Years Eve.

Hahaha.

See, that''s funny! And true.

 

[elrohwen]

Date: 2/11/2010 9:31:15 PM
Author: cakeny

Date: 2/11/2010 9:23:01 PM
Author: elrohwen
I wanted to add the full quote about wearing satin:


Satin. No one looks good in satin dresses unless they''re from Betsy Johnson or Dolce and Gabbana, you weigh less than 130 pounds, have 3 pairs of spanks on, and it''s New Years Eve.

Hahaha.

See, that''s funny! And true.

Well, I would argue against the Betsy Johnson part ... lol. Not sure why her dresses get a pass?

 

[monarch64]

Date: 2/11/2010 9:23:01 PM
Author: elrohwen
I wanted to add the full quote about wearing satin:

Satin. No one looks good in satin dresses unless they''re from Betsy Johnson or Dolce and Gabbana, you weigh less than 130 pounds, have 3 pairs of spanks on, and it''s New Years Eve.


Hahaha.

Hilarious. The "3 pairs of spanks" and "NYE" bits were conveniently left out of the Yahoo article. It was totally skewed.

So yeah, after reading a lot of online commentary about the whole thing, what I find sad is the hateful backlash. People have this tendency to take articles (that are really based on opinion, not fact) at face value and form their own opinions based on the spin. Sure, my first thought was oh wow, what an obnoxious thing to do, but ever-the-jaded-cynic, I had to delve further into the issue and find the crux of it all. It ended up being pretty innocent, imo, yet this gal is being ripped to shreds over it. Tiger Woods and John Edwards might deserve a ton of public ridicule, but not the sorority fashion police. Seriously.

 

[elrohwen]

Date: 2/11/2010 9:37:18 PM
Author: monarch64

Date: 2/11/2010 9:23:01 PM
Author: elrohwen
I wanted to add the full quote about wearing satin:

Satin. No one looks good in satin dresses unless they''re from Betsy Johnson or Dolce and Gabbana, you weigh less than 130 pounds, have 3 pairs of spanks on, and it''s New Years Eve.


Hahaha.

Hilarious. The ''3 pairs of spanks'' and ''NYE'' bits were conveniently left out of the Yahoo article. It was totally skewed.

So yeah, after reading a lot of online commentary about the whole thing, what I find sad is the hateful backlash. People have this tendency to take articles (that are really based on opinion, not fact) at face value and form their own opinions based on the spin. Sure, my first thought was oh wow, what an obnoxious thing to do, but ever-the-jaded-cynic, I had to delve further into the issue and find the crux of it all. It ended up being pretty innocent, imo, yet this gal is being ripped to shreds over it. Tiger Woods and John Edwards might deserve a ton of public ridicule, but not the sorority fashion police. Seriously.

I think the list was also pretty reasonable. Most of the requirements were things anyone would own ie wear straight or skinny jeans, don''t wear a sleeveless dress, etc. They were in no way specific to brand or price point as the article stated.

 

[VRBeauty]

Date: 2/11/2010 11:19:22 AM
Author: fiery

When you are in a corporate setting, you are handed a dress code with specific rules. When you work at a restaurant, you are told no facial jewelry, only one earring per ear lobe, only a wedding band, no visible tatoos (obviously depending on the restaurant). Almost every job outside of office enviornment require a specific uniform with restrictions on shoes.

I think that the organization probably wants to project a certain image. The same thing with my company. They want to project a certain image when news reporters or outside guests visit so they give us a set of rules on what is allowed and not allowed to be worn at the office (there's even a dress code for casual fridays specifically).

But saying you have a dress code to be part of our organization is something you'll hear pretty much everywhere..

The only "dress code" in my workplace is to dress "appropriately" or "professionally." I have to admit that I appreciate the flexibility that gives me, and by and large the people I work with on a day to day basis don't abuse that latitude. However, there are many times when I see people reporting to work in my building, when I wish we did have some sort of a dress code. And "no muffin tops" would be right at the top of my dress code for women, followed closely by "no cropped pants or anything that could at some point have been called beach combers or pedal pushers, and nothing that could pass as lingerie."

While I might take offense at some part of the sorority's guidelines, the fact is that most groups or organizations have a dress code of some sort, but nobody's bothered to put it down on paper. You could argue that putting the expectations down in black and white actually helps level the playing field -- if only a little bit -- for those who would like to become a part of that group.

 

[pennquaker09]

First, I liked Cornell, but I found Ithaca downright DREADFUL. Or course, it''s not as bad as Hanover (where Dartmouth is for those that do not know).

Second, I thought it was HILARIOUS! Especially, the parts about accessorizing and wearing makeup. Honestly, it sounded like something I would tell my SIL - "I expect EVERYONE to be wearing accessories. This an important part of every outfit and can make or break an ensemble." Of course, coming out of my mouth it would sound more like, "Like, what are you doing, at least have the decency to put on some pearls!" I know that I''m crazy, but I love a girl in pearls, they''re so classy. Unless they''re on a trashy girl though . . . Moving on!

I think this is the best advice ever: "You need to have color in your life. Otherwise, you will look like a ghost. Yes you will." You have to admit that shiz is funny.


Lastly, I know we''re in 2010 and everything should be about empowering women and everything, but who wants to be known as the ugly sorority? Be honest!

 

[AGBF]

Date: 2/12/2010 3:01:42 AM
Author: pennquaker09

Lastly, I know we're in 2010 and everything should be about empowering women and everything, but who wants to be known as the ugly sorority? Be honest!

We live in parallel universes, pennquaker . I went to NYU in Greenwich Village in the early 1970's during protests about the Vietnam War and the National Guard killing students at Kent State. (My school and all other colleges got shut down for the rest of the semester for that.) We all wore blue jeans. We all talked politics. There were no sororities or fraternities. No one inspected a woman's face to see if she had on any make-up at all, let alone whether she was wearing blush or looked pale. I was quite happy there.

AGBF

 

[Hudson_Hawk]

Date: 2/12/2010 3:01:42 AM
Author: pennquaker09
First, I liked Cornell, but I found Ithaca downright DREADFUL. Or course, it''s not as bad as Hanover (where Dartmouth is for those that do not know).


Second, I thought it was HILARIOUS! Especially, the parts about accessorizing and wearing makeup. Honestly, it sounded like something I would tell my SIL - ''I expect EVERYONE to be wearing accessories. This an important part of every outfit and can make or break an ensemble.'' Of course, coming out of my mouth it would sound more like, ''Like, what are you doing, at least have the decency to put on some pearls!'' I know that I''m crazy, but I love a girl in pearls, they''re so classy. Unless they''re on a trashy girl though . . . Moving on!


I think this is the best advice ever: ''You need to have color in your life. Otherwise, you will look like a ghost. Yes you will.'' You have to admit that shiz is funny.



Lastly, I know we''re in 2010 and everything should be about empowering women and everything, but who wants to be known as the ugly sorority? Be honest!

I beg your pardon! I grew up in Hanover and happen to think it''s a lovely town. It was a fantastic place to be a kid and every Dartie I''ve ever talked to has enjoyed the town, the area and all it had to offer. I''d move back there in a heart beat. Not nice Penn, not nice at all...

 

[swimmer]

As a sorority member back in the day, and an advisor more recently...I would love to type out (with spellcheck girl!) a list of what should and should not be worn by members during rush/recruitment. This list was in no way for rushees, or prospective members; very clearly it is just for those who have already joined. Dress codes of course depend on the group of women, but I''ve had to ask girls to reconsider their tops (way too much boobage) or skirts, um you must wear undies in public, I don''t care what Paris/Lindsey Lohan do. Sigh, soph girls who go to college and then gain the weight but continue to wear the micro-minis from hs? For many young women, college is their first chance to express themselves through fashion, their bodies are changing in interesting ways, and learning what is OK and not is really really important. The list was harsh, but with a sly grin. Not a group that would appeal to us all, but there are other options out there and groups for every woman and man.

Of course rush/recruitment is very much about image, aren''t job interviews as well? How about first dates? It teaches job interview skills, socialization/conversation tools, and I found that planning a wedding for 250 guests was nothing after running a week of rush. Recruitment helps women to sort out what they want from a group; some focus on socialization, others on philanthropy, others on pot smoking, others on academics. I loved my experience in a sorority, but yes our dress code would/should have included "please wear shoes and if you don''t shave your armpits, please refrain from wearing tank tops." AGBF, you totally would have been my sorority sister, one of our founders was the first woman to run for President of the US on the Communist Party ticket.

Much of this list is common sense, who on earth in Cornell in Jan needs to be told to not wear sleeveless dresses?!? does it get over freezing there?