Oh so stinking cute. That baby really was a beautiful child.Date: 3/10/2010 12:18:48 PM
Author: meresal
Did anyone see the very end when they were showing the baby girl''s lip quiver while she was having a bad dream?? (Avery, I think it was??)
DH rewinded the DVR just to see it again. So freaking precious!!!
I thought that she was spacey too! At first I thought she was so strong she wouldn''t let him see her cry, or be affected by him, but then it got to a point where it was just weird. She wasn''t showing any emotion at all, almost like it wasn''t registering. The things her boyfriend was saying had me and my sig-O, well, a really a whole apartment full of my friends, outraged. Maybe she was camera shy? And didn''t know how to react, so she just didn''t react at all? As a 15/16 year old, it is much harder to stand up for yourself, let alone to do it in front of a camera crew. Though I did think it was weird, I don''t know what I would have done in the same situation...well, I probably would have balled my eyes out.Date: 3/10/2010 11:13:54 AM
Author: Bia
He was the most obnoxious teenager I think I''ve ever seen. She was a little spacey...do you think it''s just because she''s young and shy? It''s like she wasn''t all there.Date: 3/10/2010 11:09:59 AM
Author: elledizzy5
Date: 3/10/2010 11:07:42 AM
Author: luckystar112
I watched the aftershow last night on MTV.com and apparently they are back together.She appears to know how big of an ass he is, but she doesn''t know how to cut him out of her life. It''s so sad because she has such a great relationship with her own father...I hope she realizes that her daughter deserves the same.
After watching that, I decided to watch the episode featuring Nikkole since her boyfriend was horrible to her as well. She said that they are not together and she can''t believe that she allowed him to treat her like that. She said that she stands up for herself more now. She also said that she still loves him, but realizes that they are better off not together. Apparently he''s got a different girlfriend now.
Nikkole''s boyfriend was such a tool!
I''m glad she moved on from him. If people saw me being treated that way by a man on national television, I''d be too humiliated not to break up with him!
Yssie, I dated a guy like this in high school... and is all a result of the mental abuse.
haha! i''m also laughing about the "both kidneys" comment. really? both of them? that''s very special!Date: 3/12/2010 9:19:21 AM
Author: Hudson_Hawk
yea, like short bus kind of special
Harsh, much?
Date: 3/12/2010 11:56:49 AM
Author: luckystar112
Date: 3/12/2010 11:25:10 AM
Harsh, much?
For one, you pretty much summed up why many women (myself included) shy away from labeling themselves 'feminists'. You know what my favorite part about feminism is? Being able to make my own decisions, and not being forced down one path of life (e.g. 'teen mom', 'housewife' or 'career woman'). My favorite part about feminism is that women have a voice and a choice to make the decision that is best for them, and it doesn't follow any cookie cutter 'sumissive' type or 'career' type.
Two, your comments about church. And not even a specific religion, just 'church'. lol. I won't go into that one too much, since discussion about religion (or, 'church') is not allowed, but I just want to point out that not all teen parents go to church, nor do they all practice the same religion, nor do all churches have the same doctrine.
Three, Your message that no one will want woman who was a teen mom. Maybe not in high school (though in my experience guys labeled these girls as the 'sure things'), but maybe later, when both parties have matured. I think it's better that way anyway, since the focus after having a baby should be ON the baby. [/b]
Harsh, much? --- You must think so. I am sorry you feel that way. I work with men, in a profession in which the majority are men. As such, I hear all of the chitchat, the gossip, the frustrations with women and children, and particularly with women who have children by other men. The adage I quoted, not wanting a woman with another man's kid on her hip, is entirely true. Given a choice, a young man will not choose her if he can get equal in a package without the kid(s). There are valid and invalid reasons for that. First, no man is made of money. Second, that's a child to raise and a college tuition to pay for, and it's not his kid, but that money is coming out of his pocket. AND if she decided to sit at home after also having his kid(s), that's TWO or more children plus her to provide for. Is any of this making any sense to you yet?
Being able to make my own decisions, and not being forced down one path of life... --- Having a child as an unwed teen and then keeping the baby certainly seems to rather force one down a certain path, or at least that's how it looks to me. Or, perhaps eliminates 20 possible paths and forces one to choose from a very few narrow ones.
Three, Your message that no one will want woman who was a teen mom. Maybe not in high school (though in my experience guys labeled these girls as the 'sure things'), but maybe later, when both parties have matured. I think it's better that way anyway, since the focus after having a baby should be ON the baby. ---- See first paragraph that I posted, above. Maybe most of you women don't get to hear the side I've heard for years about other people's kids. "Maturation" does not help; it hinders. The older men get, the less they want stepkids and more hassles. I know guys who've been taken to the cleaners in divorce because they opted to legally adopt her kids by previous liasons, and now they pay child support on them since Mom filed for divorce after suckering them to adopt. I know one guy who had his restored classic car destroyed by the wife's kid wielding a mattox. Then a fistfight ensued AFTER stepkid punched his stepdad after (naturally) getting yelled at for demolishing the car and also smashing holes throughout house walls. Then the stepdad called the police and had stepkid arrested and jailed, and all the while, Mamma was taking sides with her brat kid and against the husband who had her little looser hauled off. Nope, if you want children and a functional relationship, start with a clean slate. It's a fact that stepchildren are one of the major causes of failed second marriages. I could tell more stories, but they'd not pass the censors.
not all teen parents go to church, nor do they all practice the same religion, nor do all churches have the same doctrine -- No, but I believe that most religions are heavily biased with male preferences and male opinions, and male-centric doctrine, simply because women were not generally given a voice nor an equivalent place in the power structure, and were not taught to read and write until relatively recently in history. "Now, I takes the gospel, whenever it's poss'ble, but it ain't necessarily so." -- lyric from Porgy and Bess >;-D
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