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should I buy this bracelet?

Should I buy this bracelet?

  • Yay. It's a bargain!

    Votes: 11 35.5%
  • Nay, the diamonds are not ideal-cut. I don't care how cheap it is!

    Votes: 18 58.1%
  • Maybe - & here is why and/ or the infor I require

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • Total voters
    31
  • Poll closed .

Phoenix

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So this person I know (not a friend if that matters, only someone I know casually) is selling a tennis bracelet, made up of 25 diamonds of approx 50 pts each - some over 50pts, some slightly under. They're all GIA-certed, G and H colour, VS1- VS2 clarity. The cut is all VG (none Excellent), no fluor.

She's having some personal issue and is practically begging me to buy it. I feel bad for her, and of course I don't want to take advantage of the situation; but feel that she could use the money. (Incidentally, she's trying to also sell me her Chanel J12 watch, but that's the thread for DF). She won't tell me how much she wants for the bracelet but I am guessing she'd take SGD20k or approx USD16k.

I am not 100% sure for 2 reasons (other than the ethical reason that might be niggling at me in the LR - that I might feel like I am taking advantage of her or of the situation):

i) My DH and I don't have a bottomless pocket (despite some of the responses on my other thread on Hangout which may suggest / imply otherwise); but at the same time I've been wanting a tennis bracelet for a while now. I am very much a bracelet girl and would like to stack that with my existing bracelet.

ii) the diamonds are not even Excellent cut, only VG - some have depths as deep as 63-64%. Now, if I was to buy it, I would NOT have the diamonds recut, as recutting fees + re-certification would add up to the cost (to the tune of at least USD6-7k in total, I reckon). I have seen this woman wear this bracelet many times and it is plenty blingy.

Diamonds of these specs should cost at least USD1k each, making it a total of some USD25-30k minimum, once you add the cost of gold and labour.

So should I buy it? Yay or Nay? Or Maybe (if it's a Maybe, please state why - if you need more infor, please let me know).

Thank you.
 
I woudl buy it for several reasons:
-Yes it is a bargin but you are also buying off the secondary market so you shouldn't expect to pay anything near retail and I'm sure if she is begging you to buy it- it is because she hasnt had success with selling it else where. I'm sure she would be thrilled to get 16k USD for it.
-Since the dimaonds are set in a bracelet the cut wouldn't bother me as much as long as you have seen it in person and love it.

I don't really see any negatives with this purchase so if you love the bracelet and would wear it then I would buy it.
 
If it was me and I had the funds, I would buy it. Like Sarah said, you're not taking advantage of her because this is the secondary market and she is just a consumer and not a retail seller and so the price reflects that.

I think that you are doing her a favor. She really needs to sell it and she wants it to go to you. I'm sure she feels emotional attachment so doesn't want to sell to anyone else like a jeweler or pawn shop until it is absolutely necessary. And with you, she has the affirmation that you will take good care of it.

And for a tennis bracelet of almost 13cts, very good cut, I think will still be very sparkly and of course very blingy and noticeable. For a ring, no, but for a bracelet of this caliber, yes.

Like you said, you're a bracelet girl! You need to bracelet! Where's 1-800-we-enable when you need her?
 
I also love bracelets and I would LEAP if I had the $$$$ :appl: :appl: :appl:

Right now, the money means more to her,
perhaps that's the only thing she can think of to sell....
Hate it when that happens, but you would probably be bailing
her out of a tight squeeze, and that's why I wouldn't feel badly
at all in purchasing the bracelet at that price....

And I would wear it proudly, too :))
 
Is the cut of the diamonds mind clean enough for you? Don't fool yourself that it is plenty blingly just because subconsciously you feel a need to justify the purchase. A deal is not a deal unless it is something you've been looking for a long time AND meets your requirements.
 
YT|1359467138|3366321 said:
Where's 1-800-we-enable when you need her?

That's exactly what I thought, too !!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
YT|1359467138|3366321 said:
Like you said, you're a bracelet girl! You need to bracelet! Where's 1-800-we-enable when you need her?
haha im sure she'll be along any minute :lol:


If youve seen it and love it and have the funds i say do it. The VG cut in a bracelet wouldnt bother me as much if i saw with me eyes that it still looked good.

the only thing that would make me pause was that i thought you were saving for a 7ct? have you changed your mind on that idea?
 
Thank you, ladies, for enabling, lol!! :bigsmile:

Chrono, I've seen this woman wear this bracelet many times and it's blingy enough - even for me (ie.a "ideal" or "super-ideal" cut girl") - not least because of the 25 stones of approx 50 pt each. Like YT has said, if it were a "lone" diamond, like in a ring or even a pendant or earrings, it'd be different; but this is 25 pieces of diamonds, sitting next to each other, forming a HUGE SPARKLE!! :love: :love:

Put it another way, a bracelet of 25 diamonds of the same specs would set me back USD50k; and a similar JA bracelet would be about USD37k and upwards.

Nielseel, I am still saving for the 6.5-7ct, but I may not buy that for another 3-5 years. I am very much a "deal" girl and I almost feel like this is too good of a deal to pass! :naughty:
 
Phoenix,
At the risk of sounding like a parade rainer and painfully harsh, it seems as though you only want to read enabling responses. Are there any cons in your evaluation? You have only provided one and a very weak one at best. I am getting conflicting messages because on one hand, you've started a thread moaning about not being able to find forever jewellery pieces and that your funds are not bottomless, yet you often begin threads like this asking for purchasing approval and basking in every enabling reply.
 
Chrono|1359468654|3366338 said:
Phoenix,
At the risk of sounding like a parade rainer and painfully harsh, it seems as though you only want to read enabling responses. Are there any cons in your evaluation? You have only provided one and a very weak one at best. I am getting conflicting messages because on one hand, you've started a thread moaning about not being able to find forever jewellery pieces and that your funds are not bottomless, yet you often begin threads like this asking for purchasing approval and basking in every enabling reply.


Hmmm...you've made very good points. BUT :naughty: ...all things being equal (meaning if I had to pay TOP dollars for ideal or super-ideal cut diamonds, that'd be a differnt story... Anyhow, these are G-H, VS1-VS2 = EXACTLY my sweet spot! :wink2: :cheeky:
 
Forget the top dollar and secondary market points for now. Forget whether it is a deal or not because even if it is a deal, if it doesn't hit all the sweet spots (and I don't mean diamond specs), it is still money tied down and "wasted".

Do you NEED this bracelet? If so, why? Or better yet, why not?
Will this be a FOREVER piece or will you end up selling it? Again, ask yourself why or why not?
Do you have the funds for this or are you saving it for your forever piece? Or saving for something else that has higher priority?

Basically, I am asking you to forget thinking about bling for a few minutes to ask yourself realistic and practical questions. Yes, this is very boring but will get to the root of understanding whether this purchase makes sense, not in the sense whether you can afford to buy it, but in the sense whether it is worth it in ways other than monetarily.
 
Chrono|1359469259|3366345 said:
Forget the top dollar and secondary market points for now. Forget whether it is a deal or not because even if it is a deal, if it doesn't hit all the sweet spots (and I don't mean diamond specs), it is still money tied down and "wasted".

Do you NEED this bracelet? If so, why? Or better yet, why not?
Will this be a FOREVER piece or will you end up selling it? Again, ask yourself why or why not?
Do you have the funds for this or are you saving it for your forever piece? Or saving for something else that has higher priority?

Basically, I am asking you to forget thinking about bling for a few minutes to ask yourself realistic and practical questions. Yes, this is very boring but will get to the root of understanding whether this purchase makes sense, not in the sense whether you can afford to buy it, but in the sense whether it is worth it in ways other than monetarily.

+1

Chrono is right.

All of us can make justifications for our purchases. Everyone loves a bargain. Of course you can say that the bargain of the century got away from you, and of course it is something that you ALWAYS wanted, but is it? Your Hang Out comments, it is hard for me (and Chrono) to say go ahead= make the purchase.

The struggle continues for you. Ultimately, you will have to be happy with the decision (whatever that is) that you make.

Yes, these may sound like boring stuff to deal with (at this time) but this is probably the time, for you, to really understand what it is that you want/ need. It isn't easy to think/ deal with this. Challenges present to us for a reason. ie you present a view on hang out and now, this tennis bracelet is here to test you....
 
Chrono|1359469259|3366345 said:
Forget the top dollar and secondary market points for now. Forget whether it is a deal or not because even if it is a deal, if it doesn't hit all the sweet spots (and I don't mean diamond specs), it is still money tied down and "wasted".

Do you NEED this bracelet? If so, why? Or better yet, why not?
Will this be a FOREVER piece or will you end up selling it? Again, ask yourself why or why not?
Do you have the funds for this or are you saving it for your forever piece? Or saving for something else that has higher priority?

Basically, I am asking you to forget thinking about bling for a few minutes to ask yourself realistic and practical questions. Yes, this is very boring but will get to the root of understanding whether this purchase makes sense, not in the sense whether you can afford to buy it, but in the sense whether it is worth it in ways other than monetarily.

Again, very good points made, Chrono.

I don't NEED this bracelet. But then again, I don't NEED any of my bling. Bling is fun, bling is glamour, bling is totally frivolous, bling is ALL about WANTS, not NEEDS - wouldn't you agree? Who knows whether or not this is a forever piece (?!). From my other thread, I've realised that "forever" is an elusive concept, and I'd be fooling myself if I thought any piece of bling is FOREVER! I'd be estatic if I could keep a piece of bling for a couple of decades, or at least one, he he :wink2: . In any case, if I never had any of my bling (again), I certainly wouldn't die. Sure, I'd be miserable for like a couple of weeks but if I thought the funds were NEEDED elsewhere, I'd be willing to give up ALL of my bling - in a HEARTBEAT!! You betcha!!

I/we have funds. Basically, we have funds but perhaps a better question would be: should the funds be diverted to better usage, like an investment property or our retirement funds or even donations to charities. OR perhaps we already have funds diverted to those needs and this is another *totally* *frivolous* purchase - much like the rest of my bling collection, really! :tongue: :))
 
Phoenix|1359470235|3366352 said:
Chrono|1359469259|3366345 said:
Forget the top dollar and secondary market points for now. Forget whether it is a deal or not because even if it is a deal, if it doesn't hit all the sweet spots (and I don't mean diamond specs), it is still money tied down and "wasted".

Do you NEED this bracelet? If so, why? Or better yet, why not?
Will this be a FOREVER piece or will you end up selling it? Again, ask yourself why or why not?
Do you have the funds for this or are you saving it for your forever piece? Or saving for something else that has higher priority?

Basically, I am asking you to forget thinking about bling for a few minutes to ask yourself realistic and practical questions. Yes, this is very boring but will get to the root of understanding whether this purchase makes sense, not in the sense whether you can afford to buy it, but in the sense whether it is worth it in ways other than monetarily.

Again, very good points made, Chrono.

I don't NEED this bracelet. But then again, I don't NEED any of my bling. Bling is fun, bling is glamour, bling is ALL about WANTS, not NEEDS - wouldn't you agree? Who knows whether or not this is a forever piece (?!). From my other thread, I've realised that "forever" is an elusive concept, and I'd be fooling myself if I thought any piece of bling is FOREVER! If I never had any of my bling (again), I certainly wouldn't die. Sure, I'd be miserable for like a couple of weeks but if I thought the funds were NEEDED elsewhere, I'd be willing to give up all my bling - in a HEARTBEAT!! You betcha!!

I/we have funds. Basically, we have funds but perhaps a better Q would be: should the funds be diverted to better usage, like an investment property or our retirement funds or even donations to charities. OR perhaps we already have funds diverted to those needs and this is another *totally* *frivolous* purchase - much like the rest of my bling collection, really! :tongue: :))


I think you have answered your question. hehehehehe
 
Chrono|1359469259|3366345 said:
Forget the top dollar and secondary market points for now. Forget whether it is a deal or not because even if it is a deal, if it doesn't hit all the sweet spots (and I don't mean diamond specs), it is still money tied down and "wasted".

Do you NEED this bracelet? If so, why? Or better yet, why not?
Will this be a FOREVER piece or will you end up selling it? Again, ask yourself why or why not?
Do you have the funds for this or are you saving it for your forever piece? Or saving for something else that has higher priority?

Basically, I am asking you to forget thinking about bling for a few minutes to ask yourself realistic and practical questions. Yes, this is very boring but will get to the root of understanding whether this purchase makes sense, not in the sense whether you can afford to buy it, but in the sense whether it is worth it in ways other than monetarily.

I applaud Chrono for raising the tough questions in a thread of some very good enabling. Really something to think about.

My thought was also -- in light of the Forever pieces thread -- think twice about it, don't let the blinginess obstruct your clear vision. Ask yourself if having this kind of bracelet was anywhere on your radar when you were considering your "forever" pieces. If it wasn't, then really give yourself a couple days to cool off before you consider buying or not buying.

But if this kind of bracelet is something you've wanted to have for a while and would consider a worthy addition to a "forever set" of pieces, go for it! And post pics 8-)
 
Phoenix|1359468217|3366335 said:
Thank you, ladies, for enabling, lol!! :bigsmile:

Chrono, I've seen this woman wear this bracelet many times and it's blingy enough - even for me (ie.a "ideal" or "super-ideal" cut girl") - not least because of the 25 stones of approx 50 pt each. Like YT has said, if it were a "lone" diamond, like in a ring or even a pendant or earrings, it'd be different; but this is 25 pieces of diamonds, sitting next to each other, forming a HUGE SPARKLE!! :love: :love:

Put it another way, a bracelet of 25 diamonds of the same specs would set me back USD50k; and a similar JA bracelet would be about USD37k and upwards.

Nielseel, I am still saving for the 6.5-7ct, but I may not buy that for another 3-5 years. I am very much a "deal" girl and I almost feel like this is too good of a deal to pass! :naughty:
I know exactly what you mean I can never pass up a deal!
Do it! !
 
gregchang35|1359470385|3366354 said:
I think you have answered your question. hehehehehe

I dunno - really. Still in two minds about this. I know I don't need it but do I WANT it ENOUGH to buy it? :confused:

Perhaps the title of this thread should be: " Would YOU buy this bracelet, ie. WWYD?"
 
Phoenix|1359470562|3366357 said:
gregchang35|1359470385|3366354 said:
I think you have answered your question. hehehehehe

I dunno - really. Still in two minds about this. I know I don't need it but do I WANT it ENOUGH to buy it? :confused:

Perhaps the title of this thread should be: " Would YOU buy this bracelet, ie. WWYD?"

(in bold) Only you can answer that.
(underlined) We can only give you what we think about the purchase. But we do not know your entire situation- finances etc. So, it is hard to comment. We can only comment based on our thoughts and our predicaments for this piece of jewellry.

But, i think you already knew that. :)
 
I am afraid I cannot answer that question because it is very individualistic. Everyone has different priorities even if they have the funds to spare. I DO believe in forever pieces and have a handful that I will never ever part with, many others that I can let go with some amount of anguish and more that that I can let go at a moment's notice. To me, my forever pieces are priceless (I cannot put a dollar value to them as they are irreplaceable in my mind).
 
Chrono|1359472116|3366380 said:
I am afraid I cannot answer that question because it is very individualistic. Everyone has different priorities even if they have the funds to spare. I DO believe in forever pieces and have a handful that I will never ever part with, many others that I can let go with some amount of anguish and more that that I can let go at a moment's notice. To me, my forever pieces are priceless (I cannot put a dollar value to them as they are irreplaceable in my mind).

Thank you, Chrono, for giving me food for thought. Thank you too, Greg. I will certainly ponder this in days to come, not rushing anywhere that's for sure.

Chrono, you DO indeed have AMAZING pieces. :love: :love: :love: I am particularly partial to the WF ring that holds that delicious 5ct neon red mahenge spinel in your avatar. When I get round to acquiring a similarly beautilicious stone like yours, I'll know where to come for advice! :cheeky: :)) That colour is TDF and I love the organic pear shape (you know I have a weakness for pears, right, lol?!).
 
Phoenix|1359470235|3366352 said:
Chrono|1359469259|3366345 said:
Forget the top dollar and secondary market points for now. Forget whether it is a deal or not because even if it is a deal, if it doesn't hit all the sweet spots (and I don't mean diamond specs), it is still money tied down and "wasted".

Do you NEED this bracelet? If so, why? Or better yet, why not?
Will this be a FOREVER piece or will you end up selling it? Again, ask yourself why or why not?
Do you have the funds for this or are you saving it for your forever piece? Or saving for something else that has higher priority?

Basically, I am asking you to forget thinking about bling for a few minutes to ask yourself realistic and practical questions. Yes, this is very boring but will get to the root of understanding whether this purchase makes sense, not in the sense whether you can afford to buy it, but in the sense whether it is worth it in ways other than monetarily.

Again, very good points made, Chrono.

I don't NEED this bracelet. But then again, I don't NEED any of my bling. Bling is fun, bling is glamour, bling is totally frivolous, bling is ALL about WANTS, not NEEDS - wouldn't you agree? Who knows whether or not this is a forever piece (?!). From my other thread, I've realised that "forever" is an elusive concept, and I'd be fooling myself if I thought any piece of bling is FOREVER! I'd be estatic if I could keep a piece of bling for a couple of decades, or at least one, he he :wink2: . In any case, if I never had any of my bling (again), I certainly wouldn't die. Sure, I'd be miserable for like a couple of weeks but if I thought the funds were NEEDED elsewhere, I'd be willing to give up ALL of my bling - in a HEARTBEAT!! You betcha!!

I/we have funds. Basically, we have funds but perhaps a better question would be: should the funds be diverted to better usage, like an investment property or our retirement funds or even donations to charities. OR perhaps we already have funds diverted to those needs and this is another *totally* *frivolous* purchase - much like the rest of my bling collection, really! :tongue: :))


IMO - YES!!! To the bolded. Thank you Chrono for saying what I usually think when a thread like this pops up. If you aren't millionaires and you don't have money to roll around in for the rest of your lives then absolutely put it somewhere where it'll matter and make a difference. I know of plenty charities, Make a wish foundation, World Vision, Feed my starving children etc that could do a lot more than just make your wrist shiny with 17k!!!! If I'm not mistaken didn't you just buy a 5ct stone in the last couple of months? This isn't to say that you should have beautiful things but if you want our opinion then absolutely NO do no buy this bracelet. If you want a tennis bracelet then maybe this compromise: But something smaller that will be more practical for daily wear anyways and still look stunning and then put the rest of the funds to something important. And how about this rule. If you buy a new piece of bling, you should also spend at least half that donating to somewhere where they could really use the help? Maybe this will help you feel like you can have something like this but not be doing it while forgetting the rest of the world? Not to say that you have to but it seems that every time you want advice you struggle with this same issue. Just a thought.
 
04diamond<3|1359473594|3366395 said:
IMO - YES!!! To the bolded. Thank you Chrono for saying what I usually think when a thread like this pops up. If you aren't millionaires and you don't have money to roll around in for the rest of your lives then absolutely put it somewhere where it'll matter and make a difference. I know of plenty charities, Make a wish foundation, World Vision, Feed my starving children etc that could do a lot more than just make your wrist shiny with 17k!!!! If I'm not mistaken didn't you just buy a 5ct stone in the last couple of months? This isn't to say that you should have beautiful things but if you want our opinion then absolutely NO do no buy this bracelet. If you want a tennis bracelet then maybe this compromise: But something smaller that will be more practical for daily wear anyways and still look stunning and then put the rest of the funds to something important. And how about this rule. If you buy a new piece of bling, you should also spend at least half that donating to somewhere where they could really use the help? Maybe this will help you feel like you can have something like this but not be doing it while forgetting the rest of the world? Not to say that you have to but it seems that every time you want advice you struggle with this same issue. Just a thought.

Okay, I've already shared too much of my life and my/ our circumstances on PS, so I am not going to say anymore, other than the following : Let's assume that these other needs are taken care of/ we're well on the way to achieving our goals - not confirming or refuting, one way or the other...but again let's just assume that all these needs are well taken care of and the purchase of this bracelet (IF it does happen) is NOT going to make a significant difference to our funds / those needs or going to distract us from our goals & objectives.

FYI, I do not want a smaller tennis bracelet. EIther I buy this or something like this, or I don't at all. I have wanted a tennis bracelet of this size for quite a while already. The only thing I am unsure about is the cut. As mentioned above, the other criteria (ie. colour, clarity and pricing) are plenty mind-clean for me.

What would your advice be then?
 
Phoenix|1359474266|3366402 said:
04diamond<3|1359473594|3366395 said:
IMO - YES!!! To the bolded. Thank you Chrono for saying what I usually think when a thread like this pops up. If you aren't millionaires and you don't have money to roll around in for the rest of your lives then absolutely put it somewhere where it'll matter and make a difference. I know of plenty charities, Make a wish foundation, World Vision, Feed my starving children etc that could do a lot more than just make your wrist shiny with 17k!!!! If I'm not mistaken didn't you just buy a 5ct stone in the last couple of months? This isn't to say that you should have beautiful things but if you want our opinion then absolutely NO do no buy this bracelet. If you want a tennis bracelet then maybe this compromise: But something smaller that will be more practical for daily wear anyways and still look stunning and then put the rest of the funds to something important. And how about this rule. If you buy a new piece of bling, you should also spend at least half that donating to somewhere where they could really use the help? Maybe this will help you feel like you can have something like this but not be doing it while forgetting the rest of the world? Not to say that you have to but it seems that every time you want advice you struggle with this same issue. Just a thought.

Okay, I've already shared too much of my life and my/ our circumstances on PS, so I am not going to say anymore, other than the following : Let's assume that these other needs are taken care of/ we're well on the way to achieving our goals - not confirming or refuting, one way or the other...but again let's just assume that all these needs are well taken care of and the purchase of this bracelet (IF it does happen) is NOT going to make a significant difference to our funds / those needs or going to distract us from our goals & objectives.

FYI, I do not want a smaller tennis bracelet. EIther I buy this or something like this, or I don't at all. I have wanted a tennis bracelet of this size for quite a while already. The only thing I am unsure about is the cut. As mentioned above, the other criteria (ie. colour, clarity and pricing) are plenty mind-clean for me.

What would your advice be then?

Well...if that's the case (although I'm still not convinced it is because this always comes up), then get it. If you won't be ok with a smaller tennis bracelet and this is something you will always keep, then sure, I'd get it. Would you wear it on a daily basis? If that's the case then I suppose I could justify it. But...if you intend on keeping it then go for it. Maybe pass it down to your daughter? If you have one or will have one. If she's anything like you I'm sure she'd be ecstatic! I know I would be :bigsmile:
 
If I were you (which I would love to be in your shoes for a day!), I would pass. I would regret the cut in the end so it would not be mind clean enough for me, even if it was a bargain! I would save for other pieces instead (such as an ACA WF tennis bracelet)! Just my 2cts! :))
 
04diamond<3|1359475075|3366410 said:
Well...if that's the case (although I'm still not convinced it is because this always comes up), then get it. If you won't be ok with a smaller tennis bracelet and this is something you will always keep, then sure, I'd get it. Would you wear it on a daily basis? If that's the case then I suppose I could justify it. But...if you intend on keeping it then go for it. Maybe pass it down to your daughter? If you have one or will have one. If she's anything like you I'm sure she'd be ecstatic! I know I would be :bigsmile:

LOL, you're too funny!! :lol:

Yes, I'd def wear it on a daily basis (this woman has and her taste is rather similar to mine). All my pieces are for daily wear; and I HATE having pieces that sit around doing nothing (perhaps with the exception of a *future* riviera necklce, if any); which is exactly why I've been culling my collection for the last few years and getting items that would get plenty of use out of.

No daughter...for now...again, that's all I am prepared to say! :wink2: :cheeky:
 
mom2boys|1359475213|3366413 said:
If I were you (which I would love to be in your shoes for a day!), I would pass. I would regret the cut in the end so it would not be mind clean enough for me, even if it was a bargain! I would save for other pieces instead (such as an ACA WF tennis bracelet)! Just my 2cts! :))

This is the ONLY thing that's holding me back. A similarly-sized WF ACA or BGD H&A bracelet would be terrilby expensive (like USD50k) and that's why I still haven't bought one yet. Perhaps I could put my existing bracelet up for sale and put the proceeds toward the purchase of an ideal or super-ideal cut tennis bracelet, he he... That's the only way I could justify buying one of those. What do you think? :naughty: :wink2:
 
If this bracelet were priced close to what you estimate retail to be, would you buy it? Would you be willing to save the money, if necessary, to buy it?
 
First of all, Phoenix, I do not like people suggesting how you could better spend your money. This is a diamond forum and jewelry is a hobby for most of us who stick around here. So I am always going to consider questions like this with the premise that the person wouldn't be asking if they couldn't afford the piece, and investments and charitable giving are none of our business!!!

Now that I have gotten that out of the way, I will give my non-enabling opinion. ;)) I try to think things through and give an honest opinion, and you know that. The only thing tempting about this purchase is that it is a bargain for what it is. My first question is, do you know for sure the total carat weight of the piece and is there documentation to prove the weight, color, and clarity of those diamonds? Because if she just bought it out of a jewelry case, we both know the stones could be lower than she thinks, especially clarity and color could be a grade or two lower as well.

Anyway, getting to the real point, I am almost certain you would not buy this bracelet under other circumstances. So I am going to say that I don't think you should do it. That bracelet is 12 carats, but I would rather have this ACA bracelet of 7.2 cts at $11,600 over a mediocre quality 12 ct. bracelet at $16k.

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamond-bracelets/x-prong-diamond-tennis-bracelet-330.htm

But of course, WF or BG could make you one for $16k with larger stones than the one I linked, or you can wait until some of your diamonds sell and buy whatever size you really want. But I would NOT sacrifice quality! If this was a $500 pair of earrings we were talking about, it wouldn't matter. But $16k is a LOT of money to spend on a piece that you have valid doubts about and a great amount to put toward a high quality piece. I have a 4 ct tennis bracelet pre-PS that is probably like that bracelet. It appears to be good color and clarity, thankfully, but certainly the stones are not excellent cut. But they are only 10 pointers so it is harder to detect it. I would notice it a lot more in half carat stones!

So, I am going to leave you with my original tagline and also MrsSalvo's:

When in doubt, don't.

A deal is only a deal if you are getting exactly what you want.
 
VRBeauty|1359475834|3366426 said:
If this bracelet were priced close to what you estimate retail to be, would you buy it? Would you be willing to save the money, if necessary, to buy it?

Absolutely not. I am only considering this bracelet because it's a deal, much much less than retail. If I had to pay retail, I'd rather go for ideal or super-ideal cut diamonds.

I know you, along with others, are trying to get me to think hard about this purchase and I really appreciate it.
 
diamondseeker2006|1359475949|3366427 said:
First of all, Phoenix, I do not like people suggesting how you could better spend your money. This is a diamond forum and jewelry is a hobby for most of us who stick around here. So I am always going to consider questions like this with the premise that the person wouldn't be asking if they couldn't afford the piece, and investments and charitable giving are none of our business!!!

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamond-bracelets/x-prong-diamond-tennis-bracelet-330.htm

the ONLY reason I said anything like this is because she was wondering about it and asked. So like you, I gave my opinion. I will agree with you on the bracelet from WF!!!!!!!!!! It's stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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