Shipping an e-ring from Texas to Buffalo?

[OnlyOncePlease]

Just curious....

If I were to have an e-ring fedex'd from Texas to Buffalo, would I have to pay a local tax when picking it up from the fedex location before they released it to me?

 

[04diamond<3]

Why don't you ask the vendor how much tax it'd be???

 

[OnlyOncePlease]

Why don't you ask the vendor how much tax it'd be???

The vendor located in Texas charges no tax to ship to Buffalo.

I was curious as to whether or not I would have to pay a local Buffalo tax when I picked it up.

I'm Canadian, so I am not sure how it works down there

 

[jmarshall]

No, no sales tax on purchases from out of state.

 

[OnlyOncePlease]

Thanks!

 

[bcavitt]

No, no sales tax on purchases from out of state.

Not entirely true. If the retailer has a presence in the state of delivery, you must pay sales tax. For example, I live in Indiana. If I buy something from Tiffany's in New York and have it delivered to my house, I have to pay Indiana Sales Tax because they have a location in Indianapolis.

Also, you are responsible for "use" tax from the state that the retailer is in, but in practical terms almost no one pays it. That is why the argument for a National Sales Tax and/or Internet Sales Tax.

Bryan Cavitt
Images Jewelers

 

[jmarshall]

That is true, had not taken that into consideration. That would be charged by the retailer though, not Fedex.

 

[two_little_birds]

I am Canadian as well, and I can confirm you will need to pay the local sales tax.

If you want to avoid paying taxes, have it shipped to Erie, PA. It's only another 90 minutes from Buffalo. Plus do some tax free shopping while there

 

[OnlyOncePlease]

I am Canadian as well, and I can confirm you will need to pay the local sales tax.

Two_little_birds opinion is the complete opposite of the opinion offered by:

No, no sales tax on purchases from out of state.

Not entirely true. If the retailer has a presence in the state of delivery, you must pay sales tax. For example, I live in Indiana. If I buy something from Tiffany's in New York and have it delivered to my house, I have to pay Indiana Sales Tax because they have a location in Indianapolis.

Also, you are responsible for "use" tax from the state that the retailer is in, but in practical terms almost no one pays it. That is why the argument for a National Sales Tax and/or Internet Sales Tax.

Bryan Cavitt
Images Jewelers

Two_little_birds, have you picked up a ring in Buffalo after having it shipped there from another state

If required to pay the local tax to Fedex on pick up, that would defeat the purpose of driving to Buffalo to pick it up (vs. Canadian tax on importing it)

 

[two_little_birds]

Two_little_birds, have you picked up a ring in Buffalo after having it shipped there from another state

If required to pay the local tax to Fedex on pick up, that would defeat the purpose of driving to Buffalo to pick it up (vs. Canadian tax on importing it)

My brother picked-up a ring shipped from JA in Buffalo (at a FedEx location), and yes he had to pay sales tax.

Again, ship it to Erie, PA and pay no taxes. Some may flag this as tax evasion but I have personally done it before when picking up a ring from ERD. No issues and a huge savings!

 

[OnlyOncePlease]

Little Bird... That is likely because JA is located within the same state as Buffalo. See posts above that explain the in vs. Out of state purchase.

 

[two_little_birds]

Little Bird... That is likely because JA is located within the same state as Buffalo. See posts above that explain the in vs. Out of state purchase.

Better to be safe than sorry. Give FedEx a call and ask

 

[jmarshall]

Little Bird... That is likely because JA is located within the same state as Buffalo. See posts above that explain the in vs. Out of state purchase.

Better to be safe than sorry. Give FedEx a call and ask

He had to pay the tax to Fedex?

 

[bcavitt]

Why would FedEx be involved with tax collection in the first place?? He should have paid taxes (if any) in the first place when he paid for the ring.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

James Allen is in-state so James Allen would have charged sales tax.

Vendors like WhiteFlash who operate in TX and have no other locations do not charge sales tax to other states unless there are states that require it, and WF would be the one collecting that. So ask your vendor if there is sales tax charged to any state you are interested in shipping the ring to. You pick up the ring at FedEx and that should be it!

 

[Niel]

In Michigan I didn't pay any taxes to Whiteflash but you have to claim any online purchases like that at the time you do your taxes.

 

[TC1987]

I'm located in northwestern PA, within 1 hr drive from Erie, if I may be of assistance. I've had diamonds held at UPS< not FedEx, but there's no tax that needs to be paid at pickup.

 

[bunnycat]

Little Bird... That is likely because JA is located within the same state as Buffalo. See posts above that explain the in vs. Out of state purchase.

Yes- JA is in NY and so is Buffalo so you would end up paying.

I am not entirely sure, but I don't think you'd have to pay any sales tax if you bought a ring from one of the vendors in TX and had them ship it to another state besides TX (online purchase). I don't know what taxes may apply though if you are picking it up from a FEDEX location versus a private address.

I live in TX, purchased a stone from one of the TX vendors, paid sales tax to the vendor because they know I live here from my home address, picked it up at FEDEX with no other payments, so likely you wouldn't. I don't know how this scenario fits in with import duty because I am pretty sure they are gonna know your home addy based on CC or bank wire info if you are out of country.

 

[Niel]

Little Bird... That is likely because JA is located within the same state as Buffalo. See posts above that explain the in vs. Out of state purchase.

Yes- JA is in NY and so is Buffalo so you would end up paying.

I am not entirely sure, but I don't think you'd have to pay any sales tax if you bought a ring from one of the vendors in TX and had them ship it to another state besides TX (online purchase). I don't know what taxes may apply though if you are picking it up from a FEDEX location versus a private address.

I live in TX, purchased a stone from one of the TX vendors, paid sales tax to the vendor because they know I live here from my home address, picked it up at FEDEX with no other payments, so likely you wouldn't. I don't know how this scenario fits in with import duty because I am pretty sure they are gonna know your home addy based on CC or bank wire info if you are out of country.

I picked my stone up from FedEx and didn't pay anything. Just signed and went ( with a smile on my face)

But I do believe you have to claim it eventually.

 

[jmarshall]

I'm located in northwestern PA, within 1 hr drive from Erie, if I may be of assistance. I've had diamonds held at UPS< not FedEx, but there's no tax that needs to be paid at pickup.

TC, where do you live? A fellow NWPA er is curious.

 

[bunnycat]

Why would FedEx be involved with tax collection in the first place?? He should have paid taxes (if any) in the first place when he paid for the ring.

taxes no shipping inside the states, but customs duty, that's another kettle of fish I don't know the answer to.

 

[OnlyOncePlease]

But I do believe you have to claim it eventually.

Eventually?

 

[Niel]

But I do believe you have to claim it eventually.

Eventually?

Yeah like when I had someone doing taxes last month they were like "did you make any online purchased you didn't pay tax on. I was like "bwahhhh "

 

[OnlyOncePlease]

Thanks for all the replys...

Here is the dealio:

1. The retailer has a presence in the state of delivery, you must pay sales tax, and you pay that tax directly to the vendor at time of purchase. For example, I live in Canada. If I buy something from JA in New York and have it delivered to a FedEx location in Buffalo, I have to pay NY Sales Tax because they have a location in NY State.

2. The retailer does not have a presence in the state of delivery, unless that vendor charges tax at time of purchase, you do not need to pay tax at the time of pick up. For example, I live in Canada. If I buy something from WF in Texas and have it delivered to a FedEx location in Buffalo, I do not have to pay any tax at time of pick up because they are out of state.

However, there are 2 caveats to both scenarios:

1. You are responsible for "use" tax from the state that the retailer is in, but in practical terms almost no one pays it. Ex. declare your purchase yourself and pay the local government directly. That is why the argument for a National Sales Tax and/or Internet Sales Tax in the US.

2. You are responsible for declaring and paying your province's respective tax (not duty) at the border back into Canada.

 

[two_little_birds]

Why would FedEx be involved with tax collection in the first place?? He should have paid taxes (if any) in the first place when he paid for the ring.

Just confirmed with my brother, yes that is correct. He paid the taxes with JA, not FedEx.

 

[two_little_birds]

Thanks for all the replys...

Here is the dealio:

1. The retailer has a presence in the state of delivery, you must pay sales tax, and you pay that tax directly to the vendor at time of purchase. For example, I live in Canada. If I buy something from JA in New York and have it delivered to a FedEx location in Buffalo, I have to pay NY Sales Tax because they have a location in NY State.

2. The retailer does not have a presence in the state of delivery, unless that vendor charges tax at time of purchase, you do not need to pay tax at the time of pick up. For example, I live in Canada. If I buy something from WF in Texas and have it delivered to a FedEx location in Buffalo, I do not have to pay any tax at time of pick up because they are out of state.

However, there are 2 caveats to both scenarios:

1. You are responsible for "use" tax from the state that the retailer is in, but in practical terms almost no one pays it. Ex. declare your purchase yourself and pay the local government directly. That is why the argument for a National Sales Tax and/or Internet Sales Tax in the US.

2. You are responsible for declaring and paying your province's respective tax (not duty) at the border back into Canada.

Good to know, thanks OnlyOncePlease.

But the age old question is, how can they stop you for not declaring? Example: You wear the ring back into the country (as if it was always on your finger)

 

[TC1987]

I'm located in northwestern PA, within 1 hr drive from Erie, if I may be of assistance. I've had diamonds held at UPS< not FedEx, but there's no tax that needs to be paid at pickup.

TC, where do you live? A fellow NWPA er is curious.

The Shenango Valley area, without being too specific.

 

[jmarshall]

I'm located in northwestern PA, within 1 hr drive from Erie, if I may be of assistance. I've had diamonds held at UPS< not FedEx, but there's no tax that needs to be paid at pickup.

TC, where do you live? A fellow NWPA er is curious.

The Shenango Valley area, without being too specific.

OC/Franklin Area here.