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Settings for a Rose Cut Pear or Oval... Help Requested

missydebby

missydebby

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Hi guys. I''d love your input here. Rough sketch of my project: 4 matching Rose Cut diamond rings for me and my 3 sisters.

OK, so my first question is what shape. Pear or Oval rose cuts. On this page you can see examples of both.

Second question: if I want to keep prices down, is it cool to not get a GIA report for these stones or is that dumb? I''m probably gonna get .30 pointers for around $200 ea (w/out report)

Third Question - settings. The setting my sister votes for for a pear cut is this- keeping the stones on the head but no stones on the shank. Does anyone have any ideas of how a flat bottomed rose cut would look in this type of setting?

Another ring I love is MAchick''s east/west marquise. What''s your thoughts on an east/west setting for an Rose Cut oval? MAchicks is almost at the end of the page.

Fianlly, any pros or cons I should be aware of with this cut?

THANKS!!!!
 
I would either do all ovals or do different shapes for each (oval, square, pear, round) and I was going to suggest doing them e/w before I even read that part of your post so yeah I''d go for that!!!
 
What a lovely idea!

I have a pear shaped rose cut diamond and I'm very fond of it. I really like the look of rose cuts set in bezels, so that would be my choice - I'd bezel the stones and go with a plain band. I think the flat bottom of the stone might look a bit odd in a modern setting designed for a stone with more depth. I'm certainly not an expert on benchwork, but I don't know how easy it would be to set a rose cut in a setting like that and keep it secure?

I'd also be a bit wary of putting them with brilliant cut melee, since they might look a little flat next to a brilliant stone (it might work fine, I've just never seen it, so if you've seen it and love it, ignore me).

I would look into some of the Etsy sellers who work in argentium silver for a setting (if you want white metal - unplated white gold would also be a very nice look with a rose cut). Have a look round coloured stones and SMTB here for some really beautiful examples - I think a handmade, artisan setting would be beautiful with a rosecut centre stone and some of the very talented Etsy people have very reasonably prices for this type of work (um, can you tell I've already given a project like this quite a lot of thought haha...).

Finally, I personally wouldn't bother with a GIA cert. If you trust the seller and are happy to accept their price based on their own grading, I don't see the point unless the difference between a colour / clarity grade would run to thousands, which it isn't going to with stones of this size. Personal preference - plenty people want each stone they own to have a cert, and I respect that, but it wouldn't be a priority for me at all in this project.

I would love to see your finished pieces, I really, really hope you post pics! I love rose cuts!

Jen

ETA the pear or oval question is personal preference - if you want them to be a set, you could always have them done in the same setting but with a centre stone shape to please each recipient? I personally like the pear shapes best in rosecuts, but whatever the shape, it will be distinctly enough a rosecut to 'match' the others, I think.
 

http://www.etsy.com/shop/onegarnetgirl



http://www.etsy.com/shop/Onestonenewyork

Here are a couple of Etsy sellers who will do custom work along the lines I was trying to describe, but there are plenty more who are popular with PSers if you have a look. Sorry, the search function is broken, so I couldn''t find any PS links, but it''s worth having a look through the coloured stone threads if you have some time.

Jen
 
Very good links. I''m debating on going in this more artisan direction.

Do you know if the settings have to have a particular build because rose cuts are flattish?
 
I''m really not sure - I don''t know anything about benchwork. I''d find a couple of vendors whose work you like and email them for more info.

Jen
 
I''d do the ovals in an east-west bezel.
 
This is such a lovely idea! Your sisters sound awesome, and it''s great that you guys will have something to remind you of one another.

So, going down the list of questions ... I''d vote pear. They look so elegant in the rose-cut, and I really think they flatter the hand (not to mention, they have a tendency to look larger than their carat weight). Mrs. Mitchell''s pendant is a really gorgeous example of a rose-cut pear ... I''ll try to hunt it down to post it if she doesn''t check back on this thread first.
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I wouldn''t bother with a GIA report in this cut and this size: I''d say trust your eyes, and, if you''re really nervous, check with an independent appraiser to be sure they''re in the ballpark of what you''re paying for. But, frankly, it sounds like you''re less concerned with the resale value than you are the beauty.

3rd question ... I have to say, I think a rose cut would look a lot better in a bezel setting than in a prong setting. A prong setting, or a modern setting like MAChick''s is just going to emphasize the negative space while a bezel setting would disguise it. I really like the setting Cehrabehra posted! It might be a bit tougher on the half-carat scale to achieve that kind of comparative delicacy, but I definitely think it''s worth trying! That, or maybe a milgrained bezel for the antique look? And if you got single-cut melee, you''d have the sparkle of smaller stones on your shank without the competing cut of the modern brilliant vs. the rose-cut, as Mrs. Mitchell mentioned.

I can''t wait to see how this project turns out!
 
Date: 5/4/2010 11:07:37 AM
Author: lulu
I'd do the ovals in an east-west bezel.
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Me too! Well, not the bezel but MAchicks ring.
 
Date: 5/4/2010 11:10:18 AM
Author: Circe
This is such a lovely idea! Your sisters sound awesome, and it''s great that you guys will have something to remind you of one another.

So, going down the list of questions ... I''d vote pear. They look so elegant in the rose-cut, and I really think they flatter the hand (not to mention, they have a tendency to look larger than their carat weight). Mrs. Mitchell''s pendant is a really gorgeous example of a rose-cut pear ... I''ll try to hunt it down to post it if she doesn''t check back on this thread first.
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I wouldn''t bother with a GIA report in this cut and this size: I''d say trust your eyes, and, if you''re really nervous, check with an independent appraiser to be sure they''re in the ballpark of what you''re paying for. But, frankly, it sounds like you''re less concerned with the resale value than you are the beauty.

3rd question ... I have to say, I think a rose cut would look a lot better in a bezel setting than in a prong setting. A prong setting, or a modern setting like MAChick''s is just going to emphasize the negative space while a bezel setting would disguise it. I really like the setting Cehrabehra posted! It might be a bit tougher on the half-carat scale to achieve that kind of comparative delicacy, but I definitely think it''s worth trying! That, or maybe a milgrained bezel for the antique look? And if you got single-cut melee, you''d have the sparkle of smaller stones on your shank without the competing cut of the modern brilliant vs. the rose-cut, as Mrs. Mitchell mentioned.

I can''t wait to see how this project turns out!
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Thank you for the kind words about my pendant, Circe! Here''s a pic - I often think I''d like a ring to match, and I''m really interested to see how this particular project turns out.

I also love the delicate, filigree-style setting Cehrabehra posted. Beautiful.

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