Setting help for a 1.5ct Sapphire-three stone or five stone

[woofmama]

Hello Pser's

I purchased a bi color sapphire and am trying to decide how to set it. It is 1.5ct and faces up 6.8mm. She's an unusual stone, IRL glows a beautiful coppery gold color and sparkles like crazy. IRL the copper gold color is the most prevalent with the blue-gray fading into it.

I'm considering a three stone trellis type of setting and trying to decide what to do for sidestones. I'm thinking 4mm medium blue might work. I considered posting this in CS but really want setting help so felt this was the best forum.
I think I want YG prongs on the center stone, WG prongs on the sidestones and a WG shank.
Any idea's who could make this ring at a reasonable price?
Danielm maybe? Can anyone recommend a stock setting that could work?

 

[chrono]

Re: Setting help for a 1.5ct Sapphire-three stone or five st

Traitor! You cannot not post this in CS. I think you need a mockup of the sidestones to see if medium light blue will work. I would be concerned that they will overpower the center sapphire, colour-wise. Then depending on the exact shade of blue, sometimes yellow gold works better with coloured stones than white, so it all depends on the stone itself. I would not commit to a metal colour until I have the stones in hand, or at least see them first.

 

[woofmama]

Re: Setting help for a 1.5ct Sapphire-three stone or five st

Chrono! I really couldn't decide where to post this. If I don't get many replies here I'll ask the mods to move it or start another thread there. I'm so happy with this stone. I know it's far from traditional but then again so am I
The price was more than fair in my opinion and this is my first CS purchase since joining PS.

I don't want the sidestones to overpower the main stone. Would blue-grey stones be better or even very low color diamonds in the p-z range?

I won't make any commitments on a setting until I have the sidestones. Just want opinions on the general style I'm considering.

 

[chrono]

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Depends on if you like blue gray accent stones. Very low coloured diamonds are always a safe bet and much easier to source as matching pairs but you might find them a touch boring. Since all I can do is crop and rotate, I will leave the mockups to the PS whizzes to handle. I'm not very good with style myself but I know that 3 stones look great in a trellis design. I'm not so sure for a 5 stone.

 

[Catmom]

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Oh I really love the color woofmama! What color do you want to play up more? The copper or the silvery blue?

 

[woofmama]

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Chrono is there a cs you would recommend? I know on CS there have been been some beautiful combinations that I never would have thought of ei: magenta with green, etc. I want to play up the coppery color more than the blue and prefer the sidestones to be accents rather than center stage.

 

[woofmama]

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Oh I really love the color woofmama! What color do you want to play up more? The copper or the silvery blue?

Thank you Catmom! It's really pretty IRL At work the copper tone comes out beautifully in the fluorescent lighting so I think I would like to play that up. I welcome your suggestions. You have such gorgeous pieces!

 

[chrono]

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Good choice in deciding to play up the copper rather than the blue. I would do the same. I wonder if super light blue (aquamarine colour) will make the copper stand out more....I think that if you picked a light orange yellow, the blue will pop, so it stands to reason that you should do the opposite, right?

 

[Catmom]

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Aw thanks woofmama! I was thinking the same thing as Chrono, if you match the blue color then the copper could really stand out more. I wish I was good at photoshop to do some comparisons.

 

[Catmom]

Re: Setting help for a 1.5ct Sapphire-three stone or five st

A silvery grey/blue spinel might work as well.

 

[yssie]

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Oh my goodness woofmama I *LOVE* that stone!!!!!

I gotta say, there aren't many CSs that make me goggle and SaveToFavourites right away but this is one of 'em!!


I'm partial to three- and five-stone rings in general (surprise surprise) but your stone is one of a kind and I kinda sorta think it might stand out more sans sides. Am I allowed to say that? I would worry about what Chrono said -
-Sidestones in colours that play up both colours in the center without washing out or overpowering,
-Metal colour(s) that highlight both colours without being distracting,
-Faceting of the sides needs to complement the center - I just don't love the idea of regular round brilliant cut sides

When I look at it the first words that come to mind are... ethereal, intangible, otherworldly - a combination of cut and colour that's just impossible to neatly pigeonhole. Actually I'm really loving the idea of a halo of rose cuts - white sapphires or diamonds...

 

[chrono]

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When I look at it the first words that come to mind are... ethereal, intangible, otherworldly - a combination of cut and colour that's just impossible to neatly pigeonhole. Actually I'm really loving the idea of a halo of rose cuts - white sapphires or diamonds...

In pale, almost blush pink halo, which compliments both the blue and copper of the sapphire.

 

[woofmama]

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Catmom I strongly considered the spinel option. If I can find some I would happily use them. I am open to mixing any type of gemstone/diamond with this sapphire.

Yssie Wow such lovely compliments! I think your description "ethereal, intangible, otherworldly" is spot on. I was window shopping and when I saw the handshot photo I had to buy it. It's a bit of a departure for me from my usual comfort zone. I'm far more drawn to square or rectangular shapes but thought it was really lovely & unique.

So Chrono & Yssie- do you both think a halo would be a better idea than a three stone? That would be a really big departure for me. I enjoy looking at the halo's on here but am a modern, sleek, bezel, tension kind of girl. I was even considering a plain Gelin Abaci setting for it, but the price is bit high. I don't really have a set budget, but I'm thinking around $2kish. That's why I decided on a three stone, still modern but great finger coverage. I thought I could find some little sapphires with a grey-blue tone rather inexpensively.

Please link suggestions to halos you like. I have looked at BevK and there are a few I would consider.

 

[marymm]

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Not sure if this is what you had in mind, but I wonder if these might work? might be too blue but they seem to have a grey cast to them, and (in my own mind at least) both the color and the gorgeous cut should complement your coppery Sapphire...

http://www.gemfix.com/sapphire_montana.html

 

[Niel]

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I know you said you're a more sleek bezel kind of woman. What about a ritani similar to mine? Very modern and would fit your style, also the budget if it was a plain shank.

 

[woofmama]

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Thanks for the link Marymm. I saw those last night and had considered them, my main concern was if the cut/facet style would match.

Now that Yssie has also mentioned this point regarding putting it next to MRB cut sidestones I'm not sure what to do.

I've emailed Mastercut gems to see if he has any sidestone options for me. That is where I purchased the stone. It is a Sri Lanka sapphire which Dana cut, so maybe he some smaller stones cut the same.

What does everyone think about small pear sidestones? If you like that idea what color and type of gemstone would you choose?

 

[pinkjewel]

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Beautiful gem woofmama!!!! Love the unusual shading. I'm off to check Dana's site to try to get an idea of the copper shade more clearly. I also really like Yssie's idea of rose cut side stones. I'd use rose cut diamonds in a lower color and if you could find pear shaped they would look great!! What about 18kt rose gold prongs to bring out the copper color?

 

[lambskin]

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What about Imperial topaz for side stones? It would bring out the copper colors. If you wanted to go really modern, you could set some really nice moonstones or golden or Tahitian pearls.

 

[woofmama]

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Niel-Thanks for the suggestion. If I go halo I'll take a look thru the Ritani site.

Pink Jewel-I love the idea of rose cut pear sidestones. I have Dana looking thru his stock to see if he has any suggestions.

I took a couple of pictures to try to capture the color. I think YG would be a better compliment, RG might compete with the color a bit. Next to a penny it looked washed out. It's really golden. Dana had it described as peach but I see it as golden with no orange in it.

More pics:

 

[yssie]

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Oh - can you put sapphires in tension settings? I hadn't thought about whether they're strong enough. Well - I suppose if you're investigating it then I have my answer!

Is another Sholdt semi-bezel a possibility? That's going the other way but I could see the contrast against a sleek bold setting like that working really well

So I should say up front that I'm not a halo person - so this is going just on what I'd do, which is a big departure for me too! Just an idea, maybe it's helpful Thinking off-white rose cut sapphires/quartz/something-not-diamond - I assume non-calibrated rose cuts aren't options unless you get them specially cut... smaller split a la Charmy's Leon, the rose cuts would be a bit see-through so *something* interesting in the shoulders (split w/ 4 shoulders instead of 2? pave? something...)

The stone really is golden - but it's pale. Could your vendor have some gold made up to match that colour? On my monitor my 14k unplated wg (the Stuller stock stuff) looks pretty close.

 

[chrono]

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If the stone is pale-ish, a tension setting might not be the best design choice to play up the colour. Too much light coming in from the sides lighten it further. Sapphires that are very clean are good candidates for tension settings.

 

[yssie]

Re: Setting help for a 1.5ct Sapphire-three stone or five st

Interesting points, thanks for the info Chrono!

 

[gianniinuk]

Re: Setting help for a 1.5ct Sapphire-three stone or five st

Hello
As a Diamond Setter I would choose Black Diamonds because they would give more chromatic contrast to your stone.
I know it sounds a bit Gothic but after all they are also very affordable.
For sure not as a Trilogy ring.
Regards

 

[woofmama]

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Yssie-Love your drawing! I had looked a similar BevK setting but it had more antique elements and the halo was small mrb's. I am going to link a few possibilities at the end of this reply.

Chrono-I know you're correct about the bezel or tension allowing light to flood the stone and making the color look lighter. I think that is why my K EC in the Sholdt semi bezel doesn't show much tint. Very good point.

I do believe that this stone would look good in either a closed bezel or a three stone. The color is very hard to describe. In different lighting conditions it takes on a much different look. I do think YG or perhaps unplated WG is the way to go.

Thanks to all who have replied with suggestions. Here are some links to a few options. Please let me know what you think

http://www.greenwichjewelers.com/shop/designers/sholdt/products/sholdt-swirl-diamond-engagement-ring

http://www.greenwichjewelers.com/shop/designers/beverley-k/products/beverley-k-oval-shaped-art-deco-diamond-engagement-ring

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/eliza-sholdt-14k-white-gold-5838w14

I think the Sholdt swirl would look the best if I don't do a three stone. I love the Bevk setting but it is probably way too busy for this stone. I love the halo Yssie drew. If anyone can find a stock setting similar to that under $2k please post it.

 

[Niel]

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this one reminds me of the one yessie drew, but its diamonds

http://www.ritani.com/engagement-rings/halo-french-set-diamond-engagement-ring-in-14kt-white-gold/6114

 

[Dee*Jay]

Re: Setting help for a 1.5ct Sapphire-three stone or five st

What a cool stone! It's hard to really say without seeing it in person, but I'm actually thinking darker sapphires rather than lighter. Not blackish, but darker than the ones that marymm posted. I just think the contrast would be better and would still play up the center stone.

 

[Niel]

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I actually do kin of like the idea of black diamonds. Which I'm surprised they aren't usually my cup of tea. But like black diamond halo in yellow gold? Ballsy but could be fabulous if done right.

 

[yssie]

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I actually do kin of like the idea of black diamonds. Which I'm surprised they aren't usually my cup of tea. But like black diamond halo in yellow gold? Ballsy but could be fabulous if done right.

Bezel in black enamel...!

 

[Niel]

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I actually do kin of like the idea of black diamonds. Which I'm surprised they aren't usually my cup of tea. But like black diamond halo in yellow gold? Ballsy but could be fabulous if done right.

Bezel in black enamel...!

Oh! Now were getting somewhere.

 

[Rosebloom]

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Something like Coati's three stone could be fabulous -