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gduncan

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So i was getting ready to buy a eng. ring and it was a semi mount. It was described as....
Platinum, 3 diamond Engagement Ring. The ring can accommodate Round, Oval,or Cushion shape diamonds. The side diamonds are pear shape diamonds weighing approximately .50pts. total weight. Price is for semi-mount only.

So im talking to the guy and he says the semi-mount doesnt include the sides. I thought semi was the ring minus the center stone am i wronge??????
 
Edited my post to say how much I love that mounting you are looking at. And respect the work ERD does.

That is a work of art if that is the look you want ...just get it created!!

DKS
 
I believe Engagement Rings Direct has a policy that side stones have to match the center stone, so to me it makes perfect sense that the side stones don''t come with the ring.
 
why don't you just ask them to speak with a manager? sometimes associates mess things up. and if it turned out the guy you are talking to was wrong, I would just politely ask to speak to someone else if you end up talking with him again. Maybe ask the manager for a specific name of someone you can work with who has a lot of experience and preferably some formal gemological training, and then you can just ask for her/him when you call? assuming it is included, which I think it will be.


and note that the side diamonds on this one HAVE to be pear shaped, and they will be approx. .50ct--the fact that they don't mention a range of ct weights that can be accommodated for the sides or a range of shapes indicates to me that they are probably included in the price (not to mention that 1900 would be a ridiculously high price if they were not), and the SA probably messed this one up.
 
Date: 10/7/2007 1:56:03 AM
Author: luckystar112
I believe Engagement Rings Direct has a policy that side stones have to match the center stone, so to me it makes perfect sense that the side stones don't come with the ring.
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"The side diamonds are pear shape"

as I said in my previous post, the side diamonds are already defined. But even more so as I now see looking back on it, it says "are" which indicates that they are already present and included. Where as if it were up to the customer to choose and purchase separately it should read something along the lines of "must be pear shaped and approx .25cts each."
 
ooh, haha, I just read this as well, when I went to close the page (I had stopped when I got to the metal content). I really ought to read everything in one go, but it looks like I am not the only one who didn't read everything
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" Diamond Count: 2"

That is def. saying that there are 2 diamonds included. Your SA def screwed up, call and inform a manager so they can take care of their incompetent employee
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(or at least advise him that he better start getting more sleep during the nights before work)
 
That's a Leon Mage that you can get through ERD and the price is for the setting only, most likely. It takes two side diamonds, and the center stone. WHFSR, I know you aren't familiar with ERD, so we'll chock your statements up to ignorance and call it a day-- All of Mark's staff are highly trained and very competent. The price is not ridiculous at all for what you are getting. If you want a cheap but well-crafted three stone, get a Stuller. Leon will be out of your league.
 
Date: 10/7/2007 3:53:42 AM
Author: Gypsy
That''s a Leon Mage that you can get through ERD and the price is for the setting only, most likely. It takes two side diamonds, and the center stone. WHFSR, I know you aren''t familiar with ERD, so we''ll chock your statements up to ignorance and call it a day-- All of Mark''s staff are highly trained and very competent. The price is not ridiculous at all for what you are getting. If you want a cheap but well-crafted three stone, get a Stuller. Leon will be out of your league.
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Ditto to Gypsy!
 
Date: 10/6/2007 11:44:24 PM
Author:gduncan


So im talking to the guy and he says the semi-mount doesnt include the sides. I thought semi was the ring minus the center stone am i wronge??????
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It depends, some semi-mounts are priced including the sidestones, others are not. Gypsy is correct that the ring you posted is a handmade Leon mege ring and the price is right in line for the plat. mount not including the sidestones, which would be determined based on the size of the center stone so there is no way a price can be listed. many stock settings where the sidestones are included us the same size sides for a range of center stones sizes. they don''t really customize which is why the price can be set to include the sidestones. I do believe it might be helpful though if it''s stated a little more clearly that the sidestones are not included in the price on ERD''s site.
 
Within the trade the term "mounting" refers to a metal only mounting, while the term "semi-mounting" refers to a mounting with side stones.

The "semi-mounting" advertised is clearly described as having 2 diamonds, and seems to be priced appropriately, unless it is indeed a high designer mounting, such as Leon Mege, but I didn't see that mentioned anywhere.

I think the sales rep was incorrect, and would give them another call.
 
The person i was talking too was mark via email I plan on calling him on monday. Its not that i wouldnt pay 2600 for it. It its just that if it doesnt include the sides they should say that. It should not say 2 diamonds, not list the weight but rather a range, and probly not call it a semi. All the other companies I have looked at do inlclude all stone other than center in a semi-mount. This item is very misleading.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Semi-mount&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
 
I agree that it is misleading, it should not be listed as a semi mount if the sidestones are not included. That price would tell me that I was getting a bit more that just the ring with no sidestones. I would call again just to be sure.
 
Date: 10/7/2007 2:37:36 AM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards

Date: 10/7/2007 1:56:03 AM
Author: luckystar112
I believe Engagement Rings Direct has a policy that side stones have to match the center stone, so to me it makes perfect sense that the side stones don''t come with the ring.
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''The side diamonds are pear shape''

as I said in my previous post, the side diamonds are already defined. But even more so as I now see looking back on it, it says ''are'' which indicates that they are already present and included. Where as if it were up to the customer to choose and purchase separately it should read something along the lines of ''must be pear shaped and approx .25cts each.''
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What I MEANT was color and clarity. Not shape and carat weight. Although the question has already been answered, and I just looked and saw that that policy is in regards to custom settings and not necessarily a setting like this.
 
Mark is the owner, not the sales rep. So I would pretty much doubt that the information you got was inaccurate. However, I agree that the website is misleading, and I would mention that to him (as well as Richard's terminology clarification) when I call them next.
 
Ditto, that''s a Leon Mege, and it will be considerably more once you add the side diamonds. However, if you like that ring, just call Leon. No need to go through ERD unless you are buying your center stone there. If you are, then it makes sense to have them send your stone to Leon. Leon will then select the pears for you to approve.
 
Date: 10/7/2007 11:47:35 AM
Author: gduncan
The person i was talking too was mark via email I plan on calling him on monday. Its not that i wouldnt pay 2600 for it. It its just that if it doesnt include the sides they should say that. It should not say 2 diamonds, not list the weight but rather a range, and probly not call it a semi. All the other companies I have looked at do inlclude all stone other than center in a semi-mount. This item is very misleading.
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It sounds as though you're very bothered by the situation, which is why I'm gonna ditto diamondseeker in suggesting that you go straight to LM. If you're unhappy or feel misled by ERD, all the more reason to cut out the middle man.
 
Date: 10/7/2007 11:47:35 AM
Author: gduncan
The person i was talking too was mark via email I plan on calling him on monday. Its not that i wouldnt pay 2600 for it. It its just that if it doesnt include the sides they should say that. It should not say 2 diamonds, not list the weight but rather a range, and probly not call it a semi. All the other companies I have looked at do inlclude all stone other than center in a semi-mount. This item is very misleading.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Semi-mount&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
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Wait a sec. Did Mark say $2600? The setting is $1900 on the website. Could he have been including some (very) small sidestones?
 

I talk to mark and all is good. And he said he will change it so thats it says that the sides r not included.

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Date: 10/7/2007 5:40:09 PM
Author: gduncan

I talk to mark and all is good. And he said he will change it so thats it says that the sides r not included.

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Cool, thanks for the update.
 
cool, changing what is written on the site will clear up future confusion.
 
Mark''s a good vendor. Glad he''s changing the site.
 
Yea, if I had known it was mark I would have had more faith in him than a random SA...

but, how did you ladies know it was a LM? Obviously I don't know something about ERD, but it doesn't mention LM anywhere on the webpage did it?

and wouldn't other people be ablet o make such a simple setting just as well? I mean, if there are design differences or if it is something intricate or unique or custom I can def understand paying a premium for someone like leon, at least based on what I have read on here. But if its just a basic 3stone mount whats the reason to pay a premium for his work over someone elses? not to say that it isnt, but that I am wondering If I am unaware of something.
 
Many hours of concentrated drooling over settings, and designer's styles WHFSR. Many, many hours. And for me, I've seen three of those three stones in person and they are by stunning, and unforgetable. I've seen QUITE a few three stones, and Leon's is just amazing... very similar to the two HW three stones I've seen IRL (not in th store-- I walk out of those stores on bling overload, can't seem to remember anything in particular, just a lot of fire, brilliance and joy...lol). That's doesn't mean that someone can't copy his style, clearly his minions in the shop do, but it's distictive.
 
Date: 10/8/2007 12:20:51 AM
Author: Gypsy
Many hours of concentrated drooling over settings, and designer''s styles WHFSR. Many, many hours. And for me, I''ve seen three of those three stones in person and they are by stunning, and unforgetable.
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what is unique about it? I didn''t notice anything particularly special in the photo?
 
Date: 10/8/2007 12:22:16 AM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards

Date: 10/8/2007 12:20:51 AM
Author: Gypsy
Many hours of concentrated drooling over settings, and designer''s styles WHFSR. Many, many hours. And for me, I''ve seen three of those three stones in person and they are by stunning, and unforgetable.
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what is unique about it? I didn''t notice anything particularly special in the photo?
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I honestly don''t think I can tackle that explaining that to you unless you''ve spent time looking at a lot of threestones, or their pictures. Subtle things can make a big differences, and if you aren''t really into spotting those, it''s a bit of challenge to show them to you while posting. Maybe someone else can help you with that.
 
well, really, it probably has alot to do with the lack of various angles
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it does look quite nice from the image provided though. and taking a closer look now that I know it isn't just some "classic bridal" ring as I had thought, but actually caries some recognition of its own, and it is very fluid and elegant looking. Just really difficult to say without more angles.

any word on what size the diamond in the image is?I am guessing 2cts even, or am I way off. It looks pretty big to me though...
 
Date: 10/8/2007 12:32:06 AM
Author: Gypsy

Date: 10/8/2007 12:22:16 AM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards


Date: 10/8/2007 12:20:51 AM
Author: Gypsy
Many hours of concentrated drooling over settings, and designer''s styles WHFSR. Many, many hours. And for me, I''ve seen three of those three stones in person and they are by stunning, and unforgetable.
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what is unique about it? I didn''t notice anything particularly special in the photo?
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I honestly don''t think I can tackle that explaining that to you unless you''ve spent time looking at a lot of threestones, or their pictures. Subtle things can make a big differences, and if you aren''t really into spotting those, it''s a bit of challenge to show them to you while posting. Maybe someone else can help you with that.
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Umm, well his work is in those subtle details, he just get''s it.
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He did a great job in making my RHR 3 stone ring.
 
Date: 10/8/2007 12:39:06 AM
Author: Kaleigh





Date: 10/8/2007 12:32:06 AM
Author: Gypsy






Date: 10/8/2007 12:22:16 AM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards







Date: 10/8/2007 12:20:51 AM
Author: Gypsy
Many hours of concentrated drooling over settings, and designer's styles WHFSR. Many, many hours. And for me, I've seen three of those three stones in person and they are by stunning, and unforgetable.
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what is unique about it? I didn't notice anything particularly special in the photo?
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I honestly don't think I can tackle that explaining that to you unless you've spent time looking at a lot of threestones, or their pictures. Subtle things can make a big differences, and if you aren't really into spotting those, it's a bit of challenge to show them to you while posting. Maybe someone else can help you with that.
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Umm, well his work is in those subtle details, he just get's it.
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He did a great job in making my RHR 3 stone ring.
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Exactly. His 'look' is finding those subleties and exploiting them. He does it well.

ETA: WHFSR... It looks a little like Kristy Darling's three stone, and I think her center is three carats. Can't tell from the pic though. Yup. You really can't tell from a pic.

Here's a five carat in that setting with .9 each sidestones. Looks very similar to the one on ERD. http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=4

Here is that setting... but with a two carat round... and with proportionately larger (though likely not carat weight larger) sides. http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=312
 
WorkingHardforSmallRewards, Here''s a link to Kaleigh''s LM. Her ring is just stunning!! Maybe these pictures will give you a better idea of the uniqueness. I can only imagine what Leon''s rings look like IRL.
 
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