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Hunter Cole

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Hi everyone,

I’m selecting a diamond for my fiancée on Whiteflash and have listed a few options below. Do you have any recommendations on which one I should choose, or do you have any personal preferences? I’ve also seen a lot of praise for Whiteflash on PS, but I’m not quite sure why. Is it because Whiteflash's "A Cut Above" diamonds are more brilliant than those from Blue Nile or James Allen?

Any thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1.733-carat-f-color-vvs1-clarity-round-ideal-cut-sku-a4544645 (1.733 carat, F color, VVS1 clarity)
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1.82-carat-f-color-vvs2-clarity-round-excellent-cut-sku-a4613137 (1.82 carat, F color, VVS2 clarity)
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1.614-carat-e-color-vvs1-clarity-round-ideal-cut-sku-a4484826 (1.614 carat, E color, VVS1 clarity)
 
I wouldn't go for VVS clarity in any modern round diamonds, there are other options available and basically any VS will be eye-clean. Rather than having us pick for you, give Whiteflash a call and tell them your budget and ask for their advice. If you want to never be able to see an inclusion no matter what, tell them that and they can help you choose.

I would personally ask for a direct comparison of these three that were linked in your other thread:

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 2.02 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4739308

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.02 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4739308
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 2.27 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4686459

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.27 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4686459
www.whiteflash.com

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 2.512 ct I VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4422319

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.512 carat I color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4422319
www.whiteflash.com

An I may show tint to some people in some lighting, others go down to J/K very happily. A G is very safe. Here's a side-by-side of the size difference between the G and the I on a size 6 finger, you can change the ring size, finger length, and skin tone on this website:

2.02ct Round (8.17×8.16×5) vs 2.51ct Round (8.69×8.73×5.36)

Compare 2.02 carat Round (8.17×8.16×5mm) vs 2.51 carat Round (8.69×8.73×5.36mm) on actual diamond size and finger coverage (52.36mm² vs 59.58mm²)
www.diamdb.com www.diamdb.com

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Oh, and here are some of the details on their ACA diamonds if you want to get nitty-gritty: https://www.whiteflash.com/diamond-education/how-are-hearts-arrows-diamonds-graded/

But basically an ACA is an "easy mode" to getting a diamond with harmonious angles and a very high level of precision, which maximizes light return and sparkle. Their ACA diamonds are all excellent, you just need to select a budget and color and clarity that feel good to you. You can find beautiful non-branded diamonds but it takes more work.

If you're a camping person, it's kind of like buying your outdoor gear at REI versus on Amazon. You know that the REI stuff is high quality and on the off-chance that there's an issue, REI (meaning Whiteflash) will make it right. You get benefits from working with them like expertise and upgrade policies, though this is such a big diamond you may not ever want to upgrade! You may be able to find something good enough on Amazon (BlueNile, James Allen) by reading a lot of reviews, but it likely won't be quite as good if you were picky enough/knowledgeable enough/had an extreme enough use case to notice the difference plus you have to read those reviews and hope for the best. By educating yourself, you can maximize the ability to get an excellent diamond from one of these "big box" vendors, and that may be your preference.

I hope that makes sense!

Here's that Vatche setting that's a great Tiffany-type solitaire: https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-1778.htm

Here are some threads with similar rings:

kal2021

#TBT Thread 'My 2.065 ACA in Vatche U-113!'

My upgrade/push present has arrived!

Stats:
2.065 carats
ACA from Whiteflash
I, SI1 - perfectly eye clean
Vatche U-113 in Platinum
Ring size: currently a 5 since I’m almost 40 weeks pregnant but usually a 4.5-4.75. Excited for the swelling in my fingers to go down!

In terms of color, it faces up super white. In some lighting over the last couple days I have noticed a little warmth from the side but nothing I can’t live with. If it had been in the budget would I have preferred a G or H, probably, but worth another $8K, no, not at this point! I also have to say I love love love this...
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Thread 'She's here! Dream ring. Superideal 2 ct in Vatche U113'

She is here. My dream ring, 2 ct, ACA H, VS1 in plat vatche u113. Ring size is 4. ACA is gorgeous. I asked for petite tab prongs but they did petite claw prongs which I feel looks so perfect I'm not going to send the ring back. They did an excellent job with the petite claw. I love the swoop of the basket, It's not clunky and so smooth. I'm ocd and have 20/20 vision and I can't see anything not symmetrical about it. She is beautiful from every angle. Thank you price scope for all the information and WhiteFlash for the excellent craftsmanship and selection of diamonds...
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WF is very picky about their diamond cuts. It means the cuts have the most optimal angles and they are cut with the utmost precision. You can find exceptionally well cut diamonds on James Allen and other drop shipping sites (meaning websites where the vendor doesn’t own the diamond but just calls it in from a supplier when you order it), but it is time consuming and difficult. We can assess most aspects of cut from the standard information that such websites provide. But not all aspects. Buying branded cut is a short cut and assurance of perfection without doing so much legwork and guess work.

They also offer personalized and excellent customer service.

Does your family or the intended wearer know much about diamonds? Do they have cultural beliefs about diamond color and clarity and purity? If not then get the biggest you can and look for GH color and VS2 clarity at most. Check its eye clean and you will not see any inclusions.

I would even go to I SI1 to get even larger but that’s just me.
 
There is nothing at all wrong with shopping broadly and learning all you can about diamonds and their range of cut quality. When you buy after gaining lots of knowledge, you are far more deeply attached to the purchase and will become a better buyer of many things in the future. Buying experience combined with knowledge is very powerful as you progress through life. Often a diamond is the most costly item a young consumer has ever bought. It is a great place to begin the learning how to buy high cost items. You'll have future items that probably will cost as much or far more, but you will be better prepared when you have knowledge of the process.

Buying from Whiteflash makes anyone capable of buying a superior diamond with noting but the ability to pay. If you spend the time necessary to really learn and appreciate the diamond you end up buying, you will have a truly vested interest in the diamond and its quality. If you highly value your time, Whiteflash is a super short cut or an assurance of 'no problems". Still, spending the time to get knowledge about your choices is beneficial and of long lasting value for a consumer.
 
I would also ask WF for pictures of the G with 2 of the other stones you posted above. I think hitting the 2 carat mark and 8mm
is a big plus (in other words the G if you believe it is white enough for you). A Cut Above stones, thanks to their cut, face up
very white. They will also provide you with side views...this is where you may* see the color difference (but that's not usually how
you look at the stone).
 
Hi everyone,

I really appreciate all the advice so far—I’ve learned a lot about diamonds thanks to you! The main reason we’re steering away from the big brands is the markup, so we’ve been exploring options on Rare Carat, Blue Nile, and James Allen. A lot of people recommended Whiteflash, so I checked out their site and picked a few diamonds that caught my eye. I’m only considering the “A Cut Above” diamonds, and my budget is $30k.

I understand I could go with a 2-carat diamond by sacrificing a bit on color and clarity, but I’d prefer not to compromise. My goal is to find a high-quality diamond with the most perfect cut possible for the best price. The specs I’m focused on are D-F color, IF-VVS2 clarity, and 1.5-2.5 carats.

I currently have my eye on these three diamonds from Whiteflash. I know the difference between E and F color may be subtle, but the 1.82-carat option is VVS2 clarity and doesn’t look great on the report (I’ve attached the picture). I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts on which of these would be the best choice.
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My fiancée prefers a bigger diamond, but I’m also focused on quality since I plan to upgrade to a larger diamond in the future. If anyone has insights on diamond value over time or advice on what to prioritize for resale value, I’d really appreciate it!

Thank you in advance for all your help—I’m open to any advice!
 
Hunter Cole said:
Hi everyone,

I really appreciate all the advice so far—I’ve learned a lot about diamonds thanks to you! The main reason we’re steering away from the big brands is the markup, so we’ve been exploring options on Rare Carat, Blue Nile, and James Allen. A lot of people recommended Whiteflash, so I checked out their site and picked a few diamonds that caught my eye. I’m only considering the “A Cut Above” diamonds, and my budget is $30k.

I understand I could go with a 2-carat diamond by sacrificing a bit on color and clarity, but I’d prefer not to compromise. My goal is to find a high-quality diamond with the most perfect cut possible for the best price. The specs I’m focused on are D-F color, IF-VVS2 clarity, and 1.5-2.5 carats.

I currently have my eye on these three diamonds from Whiteflash. I know the difference between E and F color may be subtle, but the 1.82-carat option is VVS2 clarity and doesn’t look great on the report (I’ve attached the picture). I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts on which of these would be the best choice.
1729611093019.png

My fiancée prefers a bigger diamond, but I’m also focused on quality since I plan to upgrade to a larger diamond in the future. If anyone has insights on diamond value over time or advice on what to prioritize for resale value, I’d really appreciate it!

Thank you in advance for all your help—I’m open to any advice!
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Never buy diamonds for resale value. Places like Whiteflash have trade-in policies which are the best way to upgrade in the future, not reselling a diamond on your own. James Allen also has an upgrade policy, I'm not sure about Blue Nile. For top cut quality, you could also look at Brian Gavin.

If a VS1-VS2 is totally 100% eye-clean, is there a reason you wouldn't consider that?

Sometimes a diamond having a "worse looking" inclusions report is actually better for its clarity -- because it's a VVS2, none of the inclusions is that big. From the GIA website, "In determining a clarity grade, the GIA system considers the size, nature, position, color or relief, and quantity of clarity characteristics visible under 10× magnification."
The quantity being higher means that the size, nature, position, etc. might be better.
In seeking out a D-F, IF-VVS, you clearly want something that's top quality. Seeing that cut quality is the only characteristic that directly impacts diamond sparkle, don't you want that to be top-notch too?

If your partner wants a bigger diamond, you should get a bigger diamond. Again you can upgrade at Whiteflash (and potentially James Allen and other companies too, check their policies) even if you bought a K/SI2 as long as it's an ACA, so ability to upgrade is not a reason to only look at D-F, VVS.

If you have any flexibility in the budget, you could consider this: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-di...-vs2-clarity-round-excellent-cut-sku-a4713668
I would pay for color before paying for clarity beyond "eye-clean" because an IF and an eye-clean SI1 will literally look the same whereas someone can potentially tell the difference between a D and a G side-by-side. The cut quality still matters most, though. Watch this video from Jann Paul to see the difference between a crummy GIA 3x and a "super ideal" cut, both of which are F/VS diamonds:
 
Pretty much anything VS1 and above would not be visible without a loupe. If you plan to upgrade in the future just stick with vendors with good trade in policies that offer cuts/shapes that you are interested in. Resale will most likely give you less than what a good trade in policy would offer.
 
if you plan to upgrade in the future.... the trade in credit at JA and Blue Nile requires 2x orig spend so the less you pay now the less $ you need to spend in the future... I did upgrade with Blue Nile last year for anniversary from org 1.xx ct Astor Collection H VS1 Faint $ 8k -> generic 2ct D Si1 Strong Fl $17k and bought a new setting ...process went fine

Given the current market, One thing to consider with upgrade is will vendor be in business in the future to honor it ? JA and Blue Nile are both owned by Signet so high likelyhood they will be in business in future years...
 
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You say you will want to upgrade in the future so you want to focus on quality? Not sure I understand that. A vendor like Whiteflash trades in based on the dollar amount you pay - not the quality. Planning to sell a diamond yourself will generally net you about 70 percent of what you paid. That is why it is imperative to buy with a vendor with a good upgrade policy.
As for the clarity, IF-VVS is generally wasteful in terms of money. People buy those clarity grades sometimes for cultural reasons or because they find a diamond with all other specs to their liking that happens to be VVS. You will pay for that and generally will never see it.
I would ask Whiteflash to pull your contenders to do a side by side video for you. You can then begin to see the clarity and color differences. Try not to make a judgment before seeing such a video. Plot inclusions are done at 10 percent magnification and the human eye can’t see it that way. People will notice size first, color next and clarity last. You want to put your money on the attributes that are the most important and size trumps all. The diamond in my avatar picture is a Whiteflash ACA and it is a G color, VS1 clarity. F & G are often used together to make diamond bracelets and such so we know that from a face up point of view, there is hardly any discernible difference. Just something to keep in mind.
The ACA diamonds are superbly cut and their light performance is dazzling. I would choose a smaller ACA diamond all day over a mediocre cut diamond. It seems that you - like many of us probably did - have preconceived notions about the different aspects of a diamond. It is time to see them in some real life videos to help you decide what your eyes are telling you.
Best of luck and feel free to come back with any questions or concerns. There are many here on this forum willing to help and listen! We all started somewhere in the myriad of diamond information to learn and are still learning. Cut quality is a large playing field with many aspects if you want to do a deep dive into tables, depth, crown and pavilion angles, girdles, stars and lower girdle facets just to name a few, there is plenty to learn. If you just want to select a diamond with all that legwork already done and evaluated for you, call Whiteflash. You won’t be sorry!
 
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