Second opinion on lab diamonds

[TeeSquared]

Hello, I'm looking for a opinions on these IGI certified lab grown rocks. I'd appreciate input on the quality of the diamonds, if the HCA really matters, and bang for my buck.

Thanks everyone!
T


1.
~$5000
Shape: Round
Measurements: 8.00 - 8.03 x 4.88mm
Carat: 1.91
Color: D
Clarity: VVS1
Cut: Ideal
Girdle: Medium
Table: 56.5%
Depth: 60.9%
Crown Angle: 34.2
Pavilion Angle: 40.7
Polish/Symmetry: Excellent/Excellent
Hearts and Arrows




2.
~$6000
Shape: Round
Measurements: 8.14 - 8.17 x 4.99mm
Carat: 2.05
Color: D
Clarity: VVS1
Cut: Ideal
Girdle: Medium
Table: 58%
Depth: 61.2%
Crown Angle: 34.5
Pavilion Angle: 40.7
Polish/Symmetry: Excellent/Excellent




3.
~$7500
Shape: Round
Measurements: 8.21 - 8.24 x 5.04mm
Carat: 2.09
Color: F
Clarity: VVS1
Cut: Ideal
Girdle: Medium - Slightly Thick
Table: 58%
Depth: 61.3%
Crown Angle: 35.2
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
Polish/Symmetry: Excellent/Excellent
Hearts and Arrows

 

[Kim N]

Welcome, TeeSquared!

The HCA is a rejection tool, so any stone scoring under 2 is worth further evaluation with an ASET or Ideal-Scope image. The diamonds you posted all have good proportions, but we can't advise further without seeing a magnified video or an Ideal-Scope image. They also seem to be on the higher end of pricing.

I'd highly recommend one of these GCAL 8x diamonds, which have superior optical symmetry and light return. You can view the cut analysis they've already performed in the GCAL links.

2.01 Carat E VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 320190888 Affinity Cut - D50847776

www.adiamor.com

Gem Certification & Assurance Lab

www.gcalusa.com

2.08 Carat F VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 313420618 Affinity Cut - D49723490

www.adiamor.com

Gem Certification & Assurance Lab

www.gcalusa.com

 

[TeeSquared]

Thanks Kim. I think I'm leaning towards a slightly higher clarity than VS1. I can see pinprick inclusions in the video. Maybe it's just in my mind but I'm willing to pay a premium for that next step up.

I appreciate your input.
T

1.91 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG532261079 | Ritani

1.91 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut D Color VVS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG532261079

www.ritani.com

2.05 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG541251441 | Ritani

2.05 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut D Color VVS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG541251441

www.ritani.com

Yadav - Unavailable Product

www.yadavjewelry.com

 

[Kim N]

Thanks Kim. I think I'm leaning towards a slightly higher clarity than VS1. I can see pinprick inclusions in the video. Maybe it's just in my mind but I'm willing to pay a premium for that next step up.

I appreciate your input.
T

1.91 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG532261079 | Ritani

1.91 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut D Color VVS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG532261079

www.ritani.com

2.05 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG541251441 | Ritani

2.05 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut D Color VVS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG541251441

www.ritani.com

Yadav - Unavailable Product

www.yadavjewelry.com

The first two diamonds both look quite good.

A few more options I found.

diamond-LGA461407JA | Frank Darling

Sustainably grown lab diamonds and conflict-free natural diamonds. Shop competitively priced GIA diamonds in every shape, from emerald cut to round brilliant.

frankdarling.com

2.02 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG523296178 | Ritani

2.02 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut D Color VVS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG523296178

www.ritani.com

2.02 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG519229807 | Ritani

2.02 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut D Color VVS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG519229807

www.ritani.com

 

[DejaWiz]

Thanks Kim. I think I'm leaning towards a slightly higher clarity than VS1. I can see pinprick inclusions in the video. Maybe it's just in my mind but I'm willing to pay a premium for that next step up.

I appreciate your input.
T

Don't be alarmed by those tiny inclusions: you are seeing them at 30-40X magnification, which is exponentially higher than the 10X magnification all the major grading labs use to assign clarity grades.
Keep your focus on the reality that these diamonds have an outer diameter of around 8.25mm (about one-third of an inch), so any inclusions will be just a fraction of that size and completely invisible to the naked eye.

The key to clarity is:
1. the type(s) of inclusion(s)
2. the number of inclusion(s)
3. the location of inclusion(s)

As an example of what I mean: here's a perfectly eye-clean 2.05 E SI1 that a gentleman purchased after asking me for assistance to find a diamond for his upcoming proposal. Note that the grade-setting inclusion is strategically tucked away under the crown where it gets completely obscured and drowned out by all the scintillation and sparkle due to the ideal cut proportions and stellar light return!

Show me the Bling - the Laboratory Grown version!

Just realized I never added my beauty to this thread: a 1.08 G VVS2 lab Distinctive Gem Heritage Round / AVR. Setting is a Zeghani ZR1199 setting custom ordered in 14k rose gold. Ring size 5.

www.pricescope.com

Lab-Created 2.05 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 2.05 carat Lab-Created E color si1 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from IGI

www.jamesallen.com

https://imgur.com/a/sMh7Y2I

Your budget seems to be around $7500, which is nice and healthy for a sizeable LGD...here are some more examples to augment the list of suggestions that @Kim N provided:

2.31 Carat E VS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 320483820 Affinity Cut - D50182028

www.adiamor.com

Gem Certification & Assurance Lab

www.gcalusa.com

2.22 Carat E VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 320483786 Affinity Cut - D50181370

www.adiamor.com

Gem Certification & Assurance Lab

www.gcalusa.com

2.20 Carat E VS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 320483776 Affinity Cut - D50177708

www.adiamor.com

Gem Certification & Assurance Lab

www.gcalusa.com

 

[TeeSquared]

Thanks for you both for your insights, Kim and Deja.

I know that she'd sit for hours staring at the future ring. If there's a chance that she could see inclusions with naked eye, I would skip it and pick a different one. I want it to be "flawless" to her eyes, and to an extent, mine.

I've placed an order to preview the two Ritani's that I've selected. I'll check back in once I've had a chance to see them in-person.
Kim's third suggestion and both of Deja's 2.2x look great too.

This is the wrong forum but if you could find a natural diamond that's eye clean ~1.5 carat, I would definitely consider it too. Same budget.

 

[Diamond Girl 21]

Thanks for you both for your insights, Kim and Deja.

I know that she'd sit for hours staring at the future ring. If there's a chance that she could see inclusions with naked eye, I would skip it and pick a different one. I want it to be "flawless" to her eyes, and to an extent, mine.

I've placed an order to preview the two Ritani's that I've selected. I'll check back in once I've had a chance to see them in-person.
Kim's third suggestion and both of Deja's 2.2x look great too.

This is the wrong forum but if you could find a natural diamond that's eye clean ~1.5 carat, I would definitely consider it too. Same budget.

IMHO, eye clean means different things to different people. I would recommend staying at VS1 or above for clarity if your SO is sensitive to inclusions. Of course, if Deja and Kim recommend a VS2, I'm sure it will be good one, and definitely worth consideration.

 

[TeeSquared]

Just thought I'd check in again since it's been a few months. I decided against the loose stones from Ritani. I ended up going with JannPaul, currently in the process of designing the setting. The knowledge and education they share is mindblowing. I'm going with a lab grown decagon (1.958 ct-F-VVS2). AGS 404051710049. It is a gorgeous stone, videos don't do it justice. But once it's complete and in hand, I'll come back and post the videos I have.

 

[Kim N]

Just thought I'd check in again since it's been a few months. I decided against the loose stones from Ritani. I ended up going with JannPaul, currently in the process of designing the setting. The knowledge and education they share is mindblowing. I'm going with a lab grown decagon (1.958 ct-F-VVS2). AGS 404051710049. It is a gorgeous stone, videos don't do it justice. But once it's complete and in hand, I'll come back and post the videos I have.

Oh, that sounds fabulous! I can't wait to see your videos!

 

[lovedogs]

Just thought I'd check in again since it's been a few months. I decided against the loose stones from Ritani. I ended up going with JannPaul, currently in the process of designing the setting. The knowledge and education they share is mindblowing. I'm going with a lab grown decagon (1.958 ct-F-VVS2). AGS 404051710049. It is a gorgeous stone, videos don't do it justice. But once it's complete and in hand, I'll come back and post the videos I have.

Omg, I cant wait to see! Sounds lovely

 

[TeeSquared]

She said yes! Not sure the rules on Instagram posts here. If allowed, someone let me know and I'll link my post.

5-10x magnification


10x magnification. decagon melees.


(Full sun)

https://imgur.com/a/cb0C0IJ

(ASET)

https://imgur.com/a/hIz05Sb

(white light)

https://imgur.com/a/OQyr8PJ

 

[Kim N]

She said yes! Not sure the rules on Instagram posts here. If allowed, someone let me know and I'll link my post.

5-10x magnification


10x magnification. decagon melees.


(Full sun)

https://imgur.com/a/cb0C0IJ

(ASET)

https://imgur.com/a/hIz05Sb

(white light)

https://imgur.com/a/OQyr8PJ

Congratulations to you both! The diamond and ring are stunning, of course!

 

[DejaWiz]

W O W
Thank you for sharing the pictures and video.
What a perfect diamond - congratulations!
Wishing you both a lifetime of happiness together!

 

[lovedogs]

Oh my goddddddd

 

[TeeSquared]

I forgot I took these when I first took delivery. Thanks again to Deja and Kim for your suggestions early on!

https://imgur.com/MRjoesz

https://imgur.com/E0hgnbU

 

[aapple0112]

I forgot I took these when I first took delivery. Thanks again to Deja and Kim for your suggestions early on!

https://imgur.com/MRjoesz

https://imgur.com/E0hgnbU

Wow! This ring is die for! The diamond is so spectacular!
Look at how the stone reflects light under the sun

 

[Scon_ce]

Stunning! and what a pretty setting!

 

[PhilosopherStone]

That's a beautiful decagon and a lovely setting!

 

[MMtwo]

I forgot I took these when I first took delivery. Thanks again to Deja and Kim for your suggestions early on!

https://imgur.com/MRjoesz

https://imgur.com/E0hgnbU

What a lovely ring!

And CONGRATULATIONS on your future marriage.

 

[awessum-possum]

My goodness!!

Can we peep the IG post?!

 

[momofive]

Beautiful! Congratulations! I think your fiancé can stare at that all day and be very happy.

 

[TeeSquared]

My goodness!!

Can we peep the IG post?!

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Apologies for the delay. Haven't been really been checking forums anymore.

Here you go!

 

[DejaWiz]

Congratulations to you both, TeeSquared!
The Decagon ring turned out phenomenal!