Searching for a Round Brilliant - Please Help

[ahoogeveen]

Hey everyone - I'm looking for a round brilliant to set in this setting from James Allen. If I don't get the diamond from JA, I was considering getting a setting from a local jeweler and bringing the diamond from wherever I get it. I appreciate any help and/or suggestions.

Also, 2 quick questions I had a coworker who was trying to talk me out of buying online and said I should go to the jewelry district in downtown LA instead. Any thoughts on if I can find anything better out there? Second, on the HCA scale I notice closer to 1 says better for pendants and necklaces will a 1.1 or 1.2 not perform as well in an engagement ring?

What I'm looking for:

• Total budget including setting: 9k-10k
• 1.2-1.4 ct
• I - highest possible color (possibly go down to J if necessary)
• SI1 - highest possible clarity
• Excellent Cut
• GIA certified (maybe AGS, I see a lot of suggestions that are AGS on PS)

Suggestions, from a previous thread about settings:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...at-j-color-vvs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-3590454 - rated 1.1 on the HCA scale
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3702264.htm - rated 1.2 on the HCA scale
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3935933.htm - rated 1 on the HCA scale

Ones I have found:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3706593 - rated 1.2 on the HCA scale with all 4 categories as Excellent.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2028782 - rated 2.1 on the HCA scale
https://www.fourmine.com/index.php/ringbuilder/loosediamond/view/id/917231981 - this one looked like a good candidate from the HCA tool, but unless I don't know what I'm looking at idealscope wise it doesn't look good at all. See images below

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Hi, can you show me the setting you want? If it's only available at JA, we will help you find a stone there. But many styles are available at multiple jewelers.

No to the LA jewelry district question. It is FAR easier to have thousands of stones online to sort through from the comfort of your chair than to try to find a well cut stone in a jewelry district. People just don't understand about cut and the fact that you can get a better quality stone online, usually for less money...from very reputable vendors.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

The best (quality and price) of the top three stones is this one...

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3935933.htm

Your two bottom ones from James Allen are not very good. I have never heard of 4 Mine, so I wouldn't go there. We have plenty of options from vendors we know of here.

These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone. Using these generally will yield a good HCA score and an attractive visual appearance. In fact, if you stay in these numbers, you don't need to use the HCA. You don't need to use the HCA on Whiteflash ACA diamonds, because they are already graded AGS Ideal Cut.

table: 54-58

depth: 60-62.3

crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)

pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

 

[ahoogeveen]

@diamondseeker2006
I'm looking at this setting, or something similar to it.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...shion-outline-pave-engagement-ring-item-49493

Okay, so even though the HCA scores are good on the two James Allen ones, they aren't good? Is that because of the cut metrics, or something else?

 

[rockysalamander]

I think the stone posted by @diamondseeker2006 is a great deal. That is a steal for a VS1. I'd put that on hold while you ponder before it gets snagged.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3323479 {this is a nice choice if you want to stay at an I color}

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3897563.htm {largest ACA I can find near budget}

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3950134.htm {great H color in budget}

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD9805 {another great super-ideal}

The HCA is a very useful tool that can help weed out stone with uncomplimentary angles. But, it is rejection tool -- not a selection tool. You reject stones that are 2.0 or over. You don't use it to select those that are under 2.0. Also, many of us use additional tools (and some experience) to add to that tool. Diamond selection can be hard, at least rounds are easier than most, and we are all constantly learning. I'll add a bit of narrative on the JA stones to give you my thoughts.

From above thread, https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...at-j-color-vvs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-3590454. This is a well balanced stone. The varying intensity of white/pink under the table suggests that the pavilion angles may vary more than ideal. Not a bad choice if it was the only one in your budget, but we have others. My concern with this stone is that there are clouds under the table and more not plotted. Clouds give us pause because they create a snow-globe like effect sometimes, making an otherwise good diamond look dim and kinda blurry. If size was your main goal, this could be worth considering. But, if you said size was your main goal, we might also suggest others.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3706593 - This is a 60/60 style diamond which would return more white light and be quire bright with a good CA/PA pairing. The low CA of 33.5 will tend to make the diamond look flat on top and most around here prefer something closer to 34.5. With an Idealscope from JA and a gemologist review, this might be a good choice.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2028782 - rated 2.1 on the HCA scale. This is a true 60/60 stone with a nice spread. Good crown angle, but a PA of 40.6 or 40.8 would be a little better. My concern with this stone is that there are clouds under the table and more not plotted. Clouds give us pause because they create a snow-globe like effect sometimes, making an otherwise good diamond look dim and kinda blurry.

 

[ahoogeveen]

@diamondseeker2006 and @rockysalamander - thank you for your help so far. I put this one on hold while I continue looking. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3935933.htm

I do like 3706593 the 1.26 I VS1 from James Allen you posted (pending idealscope review). I'm trying to find something that is a good balance of quality and size.

I have a few questions:
1. Is the difference between an ACA stone and a non ACA stone significant? Is it worth it in your opinion?
2. Since this is going in a cushion halo, with the halo stones being an average of F-G color, should I avoid J all together? I'm nervous the halo stones will make the center stone color much more noticeable?
3. If I have a few months before proposing would you wait a few more weeks and keep searching or jump on one of the recommended above?
4. If you were buying a stone for a cushion halo today which ones out of these or others out there would you pick?

Thanks again for all of your help!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I have a few questions:
1. Is the difference between an ACA stone and a non ACA stone significant? Is it worth it in your opinion? It might be worth it to me, personally, but we do recommend well cut GIA Excellent stones that would not qualify as true hearts and arrows if that's the best way to work within the budget.
2. Since this is going in a cushion halo, with the halo stones being an average of F-G color, should I avoid J all together? I'm nervous the halo stones will make the center stone color much more noticeable? I'd go with no lower than I color.
3. If I have a few months before proposing would you wait a few more weeks and keep searching or jump on one of the recommended above? If you are ready to buy now, there's no reason not to other than it can be a good idea to propose within the return period in case she didn't like something about the ring. Why are you waiting a few months to propose?
4. If you were buying a stone for a cushion halo today which ones out of these or others out there would you pick? I like the JA 1.26 I VSI a lot. But I don't think their halo setting is quite as good quality as some that Whiteflash has. I'd probably go with this one which is similar to the JA setting, but it's a well known brand. And I'd prefer platinum.

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...on-halo-diamond-band-engagement-ring-4693.htm

So if you were going with WF, that setting in platinum is just over $2100. That leaves you under $8000 for the stone.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3942012.htm

or maybe this https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3872128.htm

So it depends on the setting, really, because there are good stones that are possible from both vendors.

 

[ahoogeveen]

@diamondseeker2006 - thank you for answering all of my questions.

1. Thank you, I will look into the differences in the two.
2. I assumed so, since the surrounding halo will be a whiter color. Unfortunately that throws out the J colored ACA you had linked above.
3. I have a plan for the proposal, but it's not rigid on time frame (1-3 months ideally). That's why I was double checking to see if it would make sense to wait a few weeks to find another diamond, or go with something that's available now. If waiting could potentially yield a better diamond from the search I would be okay with waiting.
4. I really like this JA 1.26 I VS1 a lot also (I'm assuming you'd want to see the Ideal Scope image). As far as price point it seems to be fairly priced as well. I think I need to research the difference between an ACA and an Excellent GIA to make the decision.

About your comment on the JA setting, have you heard of people having issues with the JA settings, or are they just not manufactured to as high of a quality standard?

The other option for a setting from JA was the unique design collection style 17356W14 and setting it with the round instead of a cushion, I can't get the website to come up since I'm on a hot spot right now.

I know there was a Natalie Kay setting she saw at Jared that she really liked too (unless you recommend to stay away from Natalie Kay) or I can have one made that's similar at a local store. I like the look of the Ritani one you linked as well, so I have a few options on settings.

Also, it was recommended to me to stay with white gold over platinum since she uses her hands to build sets and stage photo shoots and videos all day. Would you agree?

Thanks again for all the help. I really appreciate it!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Platinum is more dense, and white gold has to be replated to remain white. Settings with pave (tiny diamonds) are generally best made in platinum. I would say the style ring she wants isn't very great for her work life, meaning a delicate setting with lots of tiny diamonds, since if the ring hits against something, it can be damaged and possibly cause little stones to come out.

Here's a good explanation of platinum versus white gold:

https://www.victorcanera.com/education/jewelry/platinum-vs-gold

Regarding settings, handforged is the best and very expensive. Then next might be ones like Whiteflash has and other good quality custom cast settings, then maybe James Allen, then lower quality mall store type settings that have I1 clarity diamonds in them. In actuality there are likely more quality levels than that. That more expensive JA halo setting is better than the original one, but even on sale, it is higher than the Ritani setting in platinum. I'd like to see a picture of the Natalie K ring she liked. Don't have one made at a local store. We know of a reliable jeweler who could make a good quality one for you, but I am not sure how much difference the price would be compare to what we've already looked at.

If you are proposing in 1-3 months, I think you need to be working on this now.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

You can get a quote from David Klass Jewelry (look on Facebook and he has a website). Tell them you want a cushion halo setting like the one below with a more cushiony shape, except that the center stone will be round and somewhere around 1.2 cts. Then you have to decide on the metal.

 

[rockysalamander]

Agree with everything @diamondseeker2006, including getting a quote from David Klass. I too would stick with I color or above in a halo.

 

[rockysalamander]

A few other DK halos. Ignore the shape, just pointing to details.

Single halo with the outerhalo tilted outward which create a lovely view from the side and top. I prefer this angled halo over the very flat ones. I also like cathedral shoulders.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXVnIcWlM2s/?hl=en&taken-by=davidklassjewelry

This has a flat halo and simple gallery with struts.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BW_HayUFO_J/?hl=en&taken-by=davidklassjewelry

Double halo, lovely petal gallery, tilted.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU0MKzrgUNy/?hl=en&taken-by=davidklassjewelry

Tilted halo stone with non-cathedral


Flat halo with cathedral shoulder

 

[ahoogeveen]

Thank you for the suggestions, I am going to reach out to him and get a quote. I will stop by Jared later today, so I can get a picture of the Natalie Kay setting she likes since I can't find the exact one online.

If I were to to with the JA setting for some reason (say the David Klass ones are way to expensive) do you think that is a bad decision?

I'll also ask for the Ideal-Scope image of the JA 1.26 diamond to post back here.

Sorry for all the questions, I'm a very analytical person and love asking questions and thinking through all of the options prior to making a decision.

 

[rockysalamander]

Thank you for the suggestions, I am going to reach out to him and get a quote. I will stop by Jared later today, so I can get a picture of the Natalie Kay setting she likes since I can't find the exact one online.

If I were to to with the JA setting for some reason (say the David Klass ones are way to expensive) do you think that is a bad decision?

I'll also ask for the Ideal-Scope image of the JA 1.26 diamond to post back here.

Sorry for all the questions, I'm a very analytical person and love asking questions and thinking through all of the options prior to making a decision.

No. We often recommend them for settings. They are better than mall settings by a mile. They are not quite as good as WF. DK is custom, so you can't compare them per se.

If you were open to getting her input, I would ask her is she prefers the round in cushion you previously posted or the falling edge pave. The falling edge has that tilt in the halo that makes for a prettier side view (which is what the wearer mostly sees). If budget allows, go with platinum.

https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...-edge-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-item-49492

For round in cushion, I think this has a nicer gallery and the pave is more open (which many prefer).
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...e-and-pave-gallery-engagement-ring-item-53074

 

[ahoogeveen]

@rockysalamander - I really like the last one you linked. I’ll talk to her about it and see what style she likes better. Still need to ask JA for the ideal scope of the 1.26 I so I can post it here.

I stopped by DK on my way home and just missed them so I’ll send them an email. Hopefully they reply soon the JA sale ends tomorrow for settings.

Also, Capri jewlers is in the same area as DK and I stopped in there. They showed me a 1.3 H color VS1 XXX and said they could sell it for 6k including the cushion halo setting. He said it’s GIA but when I asked for the certificate number he said they don’t keep them there and he asked why I wanted it. I told him so I could get the angles off of it and he went into this whole speel about why does it matter I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between two stones anyways. Seemed fishy to me...

 

[rockysalamander]

@rockysalamander - I really like the last one you linked. I’ll talk to her about it and see what style she likes better. Still need to ask JA for the ideal scope of the 1.26 I so I can post it here.

I stopped by DK on my way home and just missed them so I’ll send them an email. Hopefully they reply soon the JA sale ends tomorrow for settings.

Also, Capri jewlers is in the same area as DK and I stopped in there. They showed me a 1.3 H color VS1 XXX and said they could sell it for 6k including the cushion halo setting. He said it’s GIA but when I asked for the certificate number he said they don’t keep them there and he asked why I wanted it. I told him so I could get the angles off of it and he went into this whole speel about why does it matter I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between two stones anyways. Seemed fishy to me...

Fishy? Downright condescending. Its like they are patting you on the head and saying, "oh silly you. sparkly is just sparkly. blink. blink". The fact that they can't see the difference...makes me wonder what kind of bad stones they look at. They would certainly think differently about angles and light if they were undergoing lasik surgery...

DK is great for setting and sides stones/melee. But, I think we usually recommend we help you find the diamond.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Yep, fishy, do not return!

We are insanely analytical around here, so we feel your pain! Well, not pain, but need to be sure you are making the best decision! I am okay with the JA stone without the ASET (better than idealscope), but do show it if you get it!

And yes to what @rockysalamander said....DK for the setting...he won't be too high and the ring will be nicer than the JA one! I like his cathedral halos the best. But I'd reserve that JA stone so it doesn't get taken!

When I look at the actual diamonds set in the JA halos, I'm sorry, but they just don't look good. Even with the same setting, the shape of the halos are slightly different.

 

[rockysalamander]

I'm going to post a few more from JA, as it looks like there may have been a re-stock opening up options. They will let you put three on hold and request three IS images from each email address. I don't think they provide ASET for rounds and may not have IS for all stones. I'm using $8k as the price ceiling or these.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4202488 {great size, eye clean to me. I'd want the JA gemologist to review this for any impact from the clouds as in a snow-globe effect, need an IS}

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3640872 {really nice VS1, nice size. Few inclusions on the girdle, but in a halo at VS1, these should be a non-issue. Need an IS}

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3675646 {another clean VS1 with less inclusions on the girdle to be concerned with, Need an IS}

 

[ahoogeveen]

@rockysalamander - well when you put it that way it is kind of a slap in the face

@diamondseeker2006 - I’m a data engineer / IT consultant, so I’m analytical by trade and usually over analyze everything!

I am going to send DK an email about settings. Do you know if he has the same “warranty” JA does and @diamondseeker2006 good to know it’s the pave diamonds you don’t like.

You two have been insanely helpful and I don’t know how to thank you enough.

@rockysalamander out of the 3 you just added which 3 would 2 would you hold I put that 1.26 I on hold from earlier in the thread but could always cancel that and do one of these 3.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

If you live near DK, it absolutely is going to be your best bet. Because you'd never be sending the ring back to JA for routine things like tightening prongs or resizing (not worth the trouble or expense), and almost no jeweler will take a ring back because of excessive wear and tear. It's generally for a workmanship problem, and that isn't common. But in your case, it would be good to have a relationship with a good jeweler for all kinds of things, including future gifts! And if she does lose a stone from her setting, getting DK to fix it will be much easier and faster. Most of us don't have the luxury of living near one of the good jewelers we know from here.

You didn't ask me, but I will tell you that I think the original 1.26 I VS1 that @rockysalamander is the best cut stone from JA listed so far. The others are good, of course, but the numbers aren't necessarily as complimentary as these. So if I were buying for myself, I'd stick with the 1.26. Although it might be worth asking for the ASET image on the 1.35, as well, just because it's a tiny bit bigger. But it's angles could be problematic requiring an ASET.

 

[ahoogeveen]

@diamondseeker2006 - sorry I've been replying off my phone most of the day, so it's been hard to read everything and reply. Thank you for your two cents on the diamonds. I currently have the 3 below on hold.

They have an Ideal Scope image for the 1.26 that you and I both like. The 1.29 and 1.35 they didn't have, but one was in their New York store so they can get one and the other was in another country, so they were going to try and get one. I do like the idea of the 1.35 because it's the same color and clarity and larger, but when it comes down to it I do prefer a better quality diamond.

Hoping you guys can help me pick when I finally get the ideal scopes back they said probably Monday or Tuesday.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3640872
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3675646
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3323479

Thank you!

 

[rockysalamander]

I agree with DS. My approach to the final stage of buying a diamond is that it is nice to have choices when there is not a 100% clear winner. Without an IS, I would choose the 1.26 too. But, with IS available, we can see the actual light return. It might be that the 1.26 stays on top. But, if we luck out and one the larger two look good, you get a bit more size in budget.

DK's construction and execution are fantastic. Even if slightly more, I would personally choose him over most stock settings. Other PS vendors also have great benches, but with buying your own stone, DK is a natural. You can also think of adding a few personal touches like flush mounting your and her birthstones inside the band (location of pave and shank style may impose limits). You would need a shank like the last one I posted in YG that has a continuous loop with the halo above. You can still have the halo with a nice tilt and cathedral shoulder. You can also have a message engraved, just avoid anything on the bottom of the shank as it may be lost if the ring is resized. If you are outdoorsy, you can have the coordinates of an important location included or the date of the marriage added later (that will save you if you are bad at remembering such things). A friend of mine has two words engraved that have a secrete meaning to her and her now DH.

 

[ahoogeveen]

@diamondseeker2006 and @rockysalamander you two have been amazing! I can’t thank you enough for the ideas and the help.

I sent DK an email last night and will try and stop by his store Monday as well. He’s about 25 minutes without traffic from my girlfriends almost an hour from my place but still close!

I requested the ideal scopes which JA said they will try and get Monday. If they can’t get them by Monday (when the hold ends) im hoping they’ll extend the hold because I’d like to see the image before purchasing one.

I’ll post back here when I have them and get your help in choosing one. So excited and again thank you so much for your help!

 

[ahoogeveen]

@rockysalamander and @diamondseeker2006 - the Ideal-Scopes are in!

Looking at the 3, I would throw the 1.29 out. The 1.26 still looks like it's the best cut, but the 1.35 might have potential?

You guys are the experts thought, so please let me know what you think!

Also, if you think I'm better off waiting for more stock, or looking at the ACA / whiteflash stones. I'm open to that too, but if you think the 1.26 or 1.35 are priced fairly and will be great stones - I'll buy one today. I am getting on a plane in 5 hours, so I may ask if they can extend the hold for one more day in case you are busy and I don't hear back.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3323479


https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3640872


https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3675646

 

[ahoogeveen]

After reading this article about Hearts and Arrows, I'm also wondering if I should consider the WF ACA 1.34 J-VS1 I have on hold and have DK use a H or I for the pave stones, or go with this 1.282 I-VS2 you recommended earlier.

While comparing the Ideal-Scope for the JA 1.26 vs the WF 1.282 I can see the subtle differences and I don't know how that will affect the brilliance. Hoping you can shed some light here.

I know I'm probably over thinking it now that I'm about to make the decision and buy one, but I really want to get the best stone I can for her since she really deserves it!

 

[ahoogeveen]

@rockysalamander , @diamondseeker2006

I just chatted with one of the JA reps, I asked to talk to a gemologist and he said he could help me?

Here is what he said about the 3 JA stones
"The 1.26ct is a little closer to the perfect angles and proportions, though probably not enough to make a visible difference in person.
I actually like the 1.29ct best, based on the video and the numbers.
Not a bit. It's actually the closest to the perfect numbers of the three, with the 40.8 pavilion angle. If there is leakage in the idealscope, I'd guess it's not significant."

Also, WhiteFlash just messaged me about the 1.34 J-VS1 I had on hold. I know that was ruled out of the picture, but wanted to bring it back up now that we have the Ideal-Scopes of the 3 JA stones. What would you two choose?

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3935933.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3897563.htm

Thanks again for all your help and sorry for pestering.

 

[ahoogeveen]

I couldn't figure out how to delete or edit my previous posts to remove them I was feeling pressured this morning and went on a posting spree.

I did want to update saying I got to meet DK and we talked about what I'm looking for. They're going to send me some sketches tomorrow and his pricing was great, so I am just looking for a diamond.

So of the 3 JA stones which would you choose? @rockysalamander @diamondseeker2006

Thank you!

 

[rockysalamander]

JA
1.26 is the best cut. {6.92 mm}

1.35 shows the obstruction that @diamondseeker2006 predicted. On the 1.35, you can see the little black triangles between the arrows. That is the dark colored camera reflecting back. They are about equal in optical symmetry and about equal in light leakage. When viewed up close, as if often done with rings, the 1.26 will likely look better.

From WF, this is in budget and an "I" color. You lose a tiny amount of spread, but in a halo this will be imperceptible.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3872128.htm {6.82 mm}

This one lets you gain some size (.1 bigger) and higher clarity retaining the I.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3897563.htm {6.97}

Of these, WF are priced so competitively, I'd be choosing between their two stones based on my budget and if you can live with the SI1. There is no significant financial premium here for getting a 'super-ideal', so I would take the much better performance hand's down. The nice thing about WF is if you get the SI1 and decide you can't live with it, you can tradeup to a VS stone.

One thing to note is that while diamonds can be cut to 'ideal proportions' even within the very tight ranges we use here, that is not equal to how a super-ideal is cut. Super-ideals are precision cut so have very little tolerance for angle variations among other optimizations. Does that matter to you? That's your call. Think of this like a car. You can drive a Pontiac GTO or Porsche 911. Both great cars, but the transmissions of these are radically different. The GTO has wide gates and you feel that "slop" when shifting. The 911 has tight gates and you have to hit the gear in a very small margin -- you have to hit the gate at the very precision point for efficient shifting. Both put out mad speed. Super-ideals are like that Porsche... I think the precision translates to performance in modern diamonds.

 

[WillyDiamond]

OP
Have you contacted Chris at BE for Halo work?

 

[ahoogeveen]

@rockysalamander - okay so if I go JA go with the 1.26, but you would go super-ideal cut from White-Flash. Is it true that the color shading of an AGS stone is between a half shade and a full shade lower than GIA?

@WillyDiamond - I haven't and BE?