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Scared jeweler switched diamond, need advice! Pics inside

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please help me figure out if I have any recourse here…inherited a G VS1 1.17 carat stone (got it appraised by a certified GIA appraisal) from my grandmother and I went to a reputable jeweler to get a custom setting made. I left my stone with them for the 2 weeks that my setting was being made. Picked it up a couple days ago and noticed several things that are making me worry that this is not my stone. In the top picture my real setting with the questionable stone is on the left. On the right is the picture I took when I picked the setting, with my dianond sitting unmounted in a sample.

1. Black speck visible looking down at a slight angle – it was cleaned when I picked it up and I can’t get the speck off which makes me think it is an inclusion…but I don’t think a VS1 shoill have an inclusion visible to the naked eye.

2. When I perform the breath test the stone stays cloudy for several seconds and isn’t completely clear until I wipe it off.

3. What looks like a cut (possible the bottom of a diamond “cap”?) circling the diamond about a quarter of the way below the girdle.

4. Diamond looks smaller (reference first picture – left is what I have now and right is when I picked out the setting.

I didnt have the stone added to my insurance policy before I got it set – when I get it reappraised if it turns out to be a worse quality/different diamond or (God forbid) a CZ is there anything I can do? Am I just being paranoid? Help! Thanks in advance.


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Re: Scared that jeweler switched my diamond - advice needed!

Well, I would have thought the picture on the left was bigger actually. Is the stone inscribed? You look for that yourself to match up.
 
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The appraisal I got the first time around didn't mention an inscription but it wasn't an in-depth appraisal - just the four Cs basically, plus dimensions. So even if I checked the current stone for an inscription I wouldn't have anything to match it up to.
 
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Can you take it back to the appraiser to have them verify it's your stone? Was the diamond set or unset when it was appraised? My thinking is that maybe the inclusion was somehow obscured by the previous setting. I can't honestly tell any difference between the various photos. At-home tests for fakes are unreliable. It would be *highly* unlikely for a jeweler to risk their entire reputation/business by swapping out your stone for a fake. I know people are genuinely afraid of this happening, but I think it's kind of a urban myth or internet legend at this point. :?
 
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I certainly hope you're right! I'm taking it back to the appraiser tomorrow to verify...it was just a loose stone previously so I don't know how I would have missed these things.
 
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Are you sure it's an inclusion and not polishing compound? Polishing compound is a PITA to remove but a few trips through the ultrasonic should do it, if that's what it is.
 
Re: Scared jeweler switched diamond, need advice! Pics insid

The "cut" you're seeing towards the bottom of the diamond is most likely a girdle reflection. It would probably be easier to see when the stone is in a setting since you have the setting to keep the stone stable, and your finger obscure more light when you're holding an un-set stone.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/girdle-reflection-question.80878/
 
Re: Scared jeweler switched diamond, need advice! Pics insid

Switching stones does happen. I knew someone who took in her grandmothers ring to the jeweler and left it for repair and did not know till way later that he had switched it for a CZ. It is not an urban legend...lol.

For the future it is best to note the inclusions with a loupe and have the jeweler you leave it with note the inclusions on the receipt when you leave it. Also the exact measurements and macro shots of the stone.

It looks like the same stone to me...the same facet pattern any way.
 
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Cbd9|1438027111|3908045 said:
please help me figure out if I have any recourse here…inherited a G VS1 1.17 carat stone (got it appraised by a certified GIA appraisal) from my grandmother and I went to a reputable jeweler to get a custom setting made. I left my stone with them for the 2 weeks that my setting was being made. Picked it up a couple days ago and noticed several things that are making me worry that this is not my stone. In the top picture my real setting with the questionable stone is on the left. On the right is the picture I took when I picked the setting, with my dianond sitting unmounted in a sample.

1. Black speck visible looking down at a slight angle – it was cleaned when I picked it up and I can’t get the speck off which makes me think it is an inclusion…but I don’t think a VS1 shoill have an inclusion visible to the naked eye.

2. When I perform the breath test the stone stays cloudy for several seconds and isn’t completely clear until I wipe it off.

3. What looks like a cut (possible the bottom of a diamond “cap”?) circling the diamond about a quarter of the way below the girdle.

4. Diamond looks smaller (reference first picture – left is what I have now and right is when I picked out the setting.

I didnt have the stone added to my insurance policy before I got it set – when I get it reappraised if it turns out to be a worse quality/different diamond or (God forbid) a CZ is there anything I can do? Am I just being paranoid? Help! Thanks in advance.


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There is no such thing as a certified GIA appraisal, or appraiser. An appraiser may have been trained by the GIA, but never certified.

I do not think we can tell from your pictures enough to help you, but I would act quickly to go visit your appraiser again to see what he/she says.

You can also go back to the store who set it for you and ask to see it under a microscope. (You should do this whether you go back to the store or to the appraiser.) In fact, one of the preventative suggestions I make to my clients is that they look at their diamond under a scope before they leave it with me, and draw a small diagram of the internal inclusions, and I help them to choose one key inclusion if there is one, that will be an identifier for them when they pick it up and see the same inclusion in their diamond.

This way you will always KNOW that you got your diamond back and you will not have these horrible feelings that you are having right now.

Keep us posted, we are all rooting for you to find out that you have YOUR diamond.

Wink
 
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So, I am curious to know if this was resolved. Who knows if the OP will ever come back, but I still think swapping is very unlikely.
 
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Call up your appraiser and arrange a time to have it looked at.

It's easy enough to tell if it's a diamond, and he/she saw it before so if there's anyone who can tell you if it's the SAME diamond, it's them.

The fog test tell you nothing.
 
please help me figure out if I have any recourse here…inherited a G VS1 1.17 carat stone (got it appraised by a certified GIA appraisal) from my grandmother and I went to a reputable jeweler to get a custom setting made. I left my stone with them for the 2 weeks that my setting was being made. Picked it up a couple days ago and noticed several things that are making me worry that this is not my stone. In the top picture my real setting with the questionable stone is on the left. On the right is the picture I took when I picked the setting, with my dianond sitting unmounted in a sample.

1. Black speck visible looking down at a slight angle – it was cleaned when I picked it up and I can’t get the speck off which makes me think it is an inclusion…but I don’t think a VS1 shoill have an inclusion visible to the naked eye.

2. When I perform the breath test the stone stays cloudy for several seconds and isn’t completely clear until I wipe it off.

3. What looks like a cut (possible the bottom of a diamond “cap”?) circling the diamond about a quarter of the way below the girdle.

4. Diamond looks smaller (reference first picture – left is what I have now and right is when I picked out the setting.

I didnt have the stone added to my insurance policy before I got it set – when I get it reappraised if it turns out to be a worse quality/different diamond or (God forbid) a CZ is there anything I can do? Am I just being paranoid? Help! Thanks in advance.


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please help me figure out if I have any recourse here…inherited a G VS1 1.17 carat stone (got it appraised by a certified GIA appraisal) from my grandmother and I went to a reputable jeweler to get a custom setting made. I left my stone with them for the 2 weeks that my setting was being made. Picked it up a couple days ago and noticed several things that are making me worry that this is not my stone. In the top picture my real setting with the questionable stone is on the left. On the right is the picture I took when I picked the setting, with my dianond sitting unmounted in a sample.

1. Black speck visible looking down at a slight angle – it was cleaned when I picked it up and I can’t get the speck off which makes me think it is an inclusion…but I don’t think a VS1 shoill have an inclusion visible to the naked eye.

2. When I perform the breath test the stone stays cloudy for several seconds and isn’t completely clear until I wipe it off.

3. What looks like a cut (possible the bottom of a diamond “cap”?) circling the diamond about a quarter of the way below the girdle.

4. Diamond looks smaller (reference first picture – left is what I have now and right is when I picked out the setting.

I didnt have the stone added to my insurance policy before I got it set – when I get it reappraised if it turns out to be a worse quality/different diamond or (God forbid) a CZ is there anything I can do? Am I just being paranoid? Help! Thanks in advance.


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Hello,

Came across this thread. By any chance was this at a jeweler in St. Louis that you think this may have happened at? I had something happen (suspected) around this very same time frame at a jeweler who was a brick and mortar store.

Would love to know if this was at the same suspected place….

Thanks,
Kelly
 
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