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I posted here a few days ago re: two rings that I liked. The first was an estate ring that I was told contained a .95 carat, F, VSI2, ideal cut. It was the first ring I saw and I fell in love with it. It was very sparkly, and I loved that it was a handmade setting. So nice. On Friday, we went shopping and looked at many different diamonds and concluded that we want an ideal cut, E or F stone,preferably VS1 or VS2. On Saturday, we went back to the shop with the estate ring. It was still a very lovely ring, but I was less sure about it. I asked repeatedly whether it was an ideal cut and whether there was a certificate. I was told that there was not a certificate, and that they didn''t want to get one because they would have to take the diamond out of the setting (big deal, right?) and send it to the lab and it could take 5 weeks to get results, plus it would be too expensive to get one for an estate piece. I heard someone in the back saying that it''s an estate piece, and it must be bought as is.
Some other woman came out and said she didn''t think it was an ideal cut because they just started classifying ideal cuts two years ago. I know that the first woman I spoke with told me it was an ideal cut, so I was thinking maybe even though they were not classified as such, they still could have been cut to those proportions. In any event, I asked the second woman whether she ever bought a diamond without a certificate, and she smugly said that her engagement ring did not have a cert!!! At this point, I was very annoyed. They kept saying it was an estate piece and there was not a lot of room for profit!!!
What? I told her that I did not care what profit they were making on the ring, and that they should have had it certified and priced accordingly.
The owner came out, looked at the diamond under a scope and said it was not an ideal cut. He showed me what to look for, and why this clearly was not an ideal cut. Ok, that decision was made much easier for me. I thanked him for explaining and we left.
I don''t know. Perhaps I was wrong for insisting on a cert on an estate ring? From what I''ve read here, I didn''t think it was. I think the first saleswoman was fairly new and didn''t know what she was talking about. I don''t think they tried to misrepresent the stone as being an ideal cut.
RE: HoF
The jeweler from Friday called on Saturday to say they could put a non-HoF diamond in the Felicity HoF setting, which is great. He also said they''d take $500 more off of the 1.01 E VS1 almost ideal cut - bringing it down to 9,500, which is still quite a bit more than the same (but ideal cut) at Whiteflash. DBF says the Whiteflash setting is not as nice as the HoF setting and that we should just go through the jeweler, get Felicity with an HoF diamond, which I believe would be around 13k for a G, SI1, 1.08. They said the HoF diamonds in G appear whiter than a non-HoF G because of the cut. Uggh. Then add in my new desire for a 1.25, even though I was always a 1 carat girl.
And, to top it all off, I really sincerely believe that anything over 10k is just too much for a ring. So, I think I need to figure out how to get a whiteflash diamond in the Felicity setting . . . .
If you made it this far, sorry for rambling so much . . . .
Some other woman came out and said she didn''t think it was an ideal cut because they just started classifying ideal cuts two years ago. I know that the first woman I spoke with told me it was an ideal cut, so I was thinking maybe even though they were not classified as such, they still could have been cut to those proportions. In any event, I asked the second woman whether she ever bought a diamond without a certificate, and she smugly said that her engagement ring did not have a cert!!! At this point, I was very annoyed. They kept saying it was an estate piece and there was not a lot of room for profit!!!
The owner came out, looked at the diamond under a scope and said it was not an ideal cut. He showed me what to look for, and why this clearly was not an ideal cut. Ok, that decision was made much easier for me. I thanked him for explaining and we left.
I don''t know. Perhaps I was wrong for insisting on a cert on an estate ring? From what I''ve read here, I didn''t think it was. I think the first saleswoman was fairly new and didn''t know what she was talking about. I don''t think they tried to misrepresent the stone as being an ideal cut.
RE: HoF
The jeweler from Friday called on Saturday to say they could put a non-HoF diamond in the Felicity HoF setting, which is great. He also said they''d take $500 more off of the 1.01 E VS1 almost ideal cut - bringing it down to 9,500, which is still quite a bit more than the same (but ideal cut) at Whiteflash. DBF says the Whiteflash setting is not as nice as the HoF setting and that we should just go through the jeweler, get Felicity with an HoF diamond, which I believe would be around 13k for a G, SI1, 1.08. They said the HoF diamonds in G appear whiter than a non-HoF G because of the cut. Uggh. Then add in my new desire for a 1.25, even though I was always a 1 carat girl.
And, to top it all off, I really sincerely believe that anything over 10k is just too much for a ring. So, I think I need to figure out how to get a whiteflash diamond in the Felicity setting . . . .
If you made it this far, sorry for rambling so much . . . .