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movie zombie

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Thanks MZ, I'll definitely go just to see the Aurora Collection of naturally-colored diamonds. :love: :love: :love:
I have that huge book by Stephen C. Hofner that features the collection, and the more I learn about it the more I appreciate these little miracles of nature.

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thanks for the heads up. i'm north of SD but will definately get down there to see the exhibit.

there is also Gemstone Carvings: The Masterworks of Harold Van Pelt at the Bowers in Santa Ana which I enjoyed.
 
i'm starting to think it would be worth a trip from SFBay Area to see it.

mz
 
I recently saw this traveling exhibit in Chicago. Very nice eyecandy. :love:

The book, which is still available and affordable at this time, is "Forever Brilliant - The Aurora Collection of Colored Diamonds" by Stephen C. Hofer and Alan Bronstein. I highly suggest it. I believe this book is part of the larger "Colored Diamonds" book by Hofer.
 
website says this exhibit will not be traveling....too bad. however, i think their collection of california gems couldn't be duplicated at many other natural history museums. looking at the dates i'm thinking a trip to san diego will be happening between now and next may: the picture of that benitonite butterfly is a great motivator!

mz

ps TL, any word re the color diamond collection being a traveling exhibition elsewhere in california? didn't see it mentioned at the website link......
 
I'm really getting into learning about naturally fancy colored diamonds and can't wait to see the famous Aurora Collection.

It's like the Holy Grail. :appl:
I'll probably go a few times before it leaves.
 
movie zombie said:
website says this exhibit will not be traveling....too bad. however, i think their collection of california gems couldn't be duplicated at many other natural history museums. looking at the dates i'm thinking a trip to san diego will be happening between now and next may: the picture of that benitonite butterfly is a great motivator!

mz

ps TL, any word re the color diamond collection being a traveling exhibition elsewhere in california? didn't see it mentioned at the website link......

I thought it was. I'm sorry MZ, I do not see anything online about it coming to California as well. :((
 
Here is one pic from yesterday. I have perhaps 40 more.

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Whoa!
So cool.
What are the gems?
 
thank you for the picture....and i look forward to more!

so, is it worth the trip down from the SF Bay Area? i used to get to SDiego a lot but haven't been in years....and hubby has never been. this exhibit is motivating me.........especially since its there until May, 2011.

Mo-Zo
 
kenny said:
Whoa!
So cool.
What are the gems?
Aquamarine, diamond, sapphire, citrine

I'm asking PS to grant a gallery to post the rest. They may not agree. The picture above was saved in the wrong color space, so is washed out. I'll post agrain with the correct color saturation.
 
movie zombie said:
thank you for the picture....and i look forward to more!

so, is it worth the trip down from the SF Bay Area? i used to get to SDiego a lot but haven't been in years....and hubby has never been. this exhibit is motivating me.........especially since its there until May, 2011.

Yes, for a gem nut, it should be quite worth the airfare from SF. The docent yesterday told me it would remain for two more years, and they are trying for permanent space. Also, as you may tell by the picture, this is the finest museum gemstone lighting, by far, of any museum I've ever seen.
 
zeolite said:
kenny said:
Whoa!
So cool.
What are the gems?
Aquamarine, diamond, sapphire, citrine

I'm asking PS to grant a gallery to post the rest. They may not agree. The picture above was saved in the wrong color space, so is washed out. I'll post agrain with the correct color saturation.

Can you explain this?

I have posted pics on PS where the color was washed out too and could never figure out what was going on.
I even emailed admin once about it and they could not detect the difference so that made me wonder if various viewers/computers/browsers show different versions of the same pics.

What do you mean by the wrong color space?
 
kenny said:
zeolite said:
kenny said:
Whoa!
So cool.
What are the gems?
Aquamarine, diamond, sapphire, citrine

I'm asking PS to grant a gallery to post the rest. They may not agree. The picture above was saved in the wrong color space, so is washed out. I'll post agrain with the correct color saturation.

Can you explain this?

I have posted pics on PS where the color was washed out too and could never figure out what was going on.
I even emailed admin once about it and they could not detect the difference so that made me wonder if various viewers/computers/browsers show different versions of the same pics.

What do you mean by the wrong color space?

I just posted a photo that was automatically "downsized" by this new version of PS, and the color got really washed out in comparison to the orignal photo. That sometimes happens if a software is shrinking image size.
 
tourmaline_lover said:
kenny said:
zeolite said:
kenny said:
Whoa!
So cool.
What are the gems?
Aquamarine, diamond, sapphire, citrine

I'm asking PS to grant a gallery to post the rest. They may not agree. The picture above was saved in the wrong color space, so is washed out. I'll post agrain with the correct color saturation.

Can you explain this?

I have posted pics on PS where the color was washed out too and could never figure out what was going on.
I even emailed admin once about it and they could not detect the difference so that made me wonder if various viewers/computers/browsers show different versions of the same pics.

What do you mean by the wrong color space?

I just posted a photo that was automatically "downsized" by this new version of PS, and the color got really washed out in comparison to the orignal photo. That sometimes happens if a software is shrinking image size.

Thanks but this particular phenomenon happened on both PS 1.0 and 2.0.
 
kenny said:
zeolite said:
kenny said:
Whoa!
So cool.
What are the gems?
Aquamarine, diamond, sapphire, citrine

I'm asking PS to grant a gallery to post the rest. They may not agree. The picture above was saved in the wrong color space, so is washed out. I'll post agrain with the correct color saturation.

Can you explain this?

I have posted pics on PS where the color was washed out too and could never figure out what was going on.
I even emailed admin once about it and they could not detect the difference so that made me wonder if various viewers/computers/browsers show different versions of the same pics.

What do you mean by the wrong color space?

Hi Kenny, TL,

made me wonder if various viewers/computers/browsers show different versions of the same pics.
They definitely do not show the same colors. The software is not color managed.

Without meaning at all to be insulting, the subject is far too complex for PS readers to follow, understand, or even care. Only hardcore digital photo fanatics (which I am) need to know this. However, I will post links below and try explain to some understandable level. I think I can explain about TL's situation.

Nearly all point and shoot digital cameras shoot only jpeg files, and record only in the most limited color space, which is sRGB. sRGB defines colors (red, green, or blue) which do not include highly saturated colors, because your monitor and your printer probably can't display these intense colors. Also, no browsers that I am aware of, are color managed, and no browsers can read ICC color profiles.

My camera is a very expensive Canon DSLR that can shoot in raw (as well as jpeg) and can convert the camera colors into wider color spaces, such as Abobe RGB. Digital photographers use these wider color spaces to print richer colors, up to the color limit of their printer inks.

I use a Gretag MacBeth Eye -One colorimeter, to color calibrate my monitor. It shows many very complex colors and gray shades, and uses a white, red , blue, and green photodiode to measure each of these colors. It writes these calibration files into each of my pictures. Thus I can have a very complex picture on my color monitor, the files will travel to my Pro color printer lab, and they will see EXACTLY what I see on my monitor. This is to insure that the prints coming back EXACTLY match the picture on my monitor, and the prints do match!

If I read an Adobe RGB picture and the same picture converted to sRGB in Photoshop, it can read the tagged color space and display the colors correctly. The actual digital file (1 and 0) is different between sRGB and Adobe RGB, but Photoshop knows this and corrects. My mistake, and possibly TL's, was that I saved my pictures in Photoshop, in Adobe RGB (my usual procedure).

When I up loaded my picture to PS or any web application, it can't read the tagged color space (Adobe RGB), and it very wrongly reads the Adobe RGB files and assumes it is sRGB. Thus it displays very pastel colors. All I needed to do was in Photoshop, to save as an sRGB. Then it shows in all web applications with the correct, more intense colors.


http://www.aguntherphotography.com/tuto ... phers.html

http://www.normankoren.com/color_management.html

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutori ... ement1.htm

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutori ... spaces.htm

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutori ... spaces.htm
 
I don't use photoshop Zeolite. Don't laugh, but I use MS Paint to crop my pictures, and that's all the enhancement they get :oops:

Now, why can't my camera take photos of green properly???!!! That's another thread, I know. I use a Nikon Coolpix 10MP ($130 cheapie point and shoot). Try to stop laughing to hard. :oops:

Boy, I've missed you around here, and your awesome dissertations. Can you do one on the E8 lie group too? Oooops, wrong forum. :lol:
 
TL, You know how to reach me in another forum and by email. Send me a picture where the green is not correct and I'll fix it.
 
I sent you a link to the thread with the washed out green pictures, but look only at the photos on page 1 of that thread. Thanks Zeolite.
 
I'm not a pro, but am always looking for ways to improve my pics.
Thanks so much for the links which I'm saving for future study.

I have a Nikon D200 which can take pics on NEF (RAW) in addition to 3 resolutions of JPEG.
I've always just set the camera to the highest res of JPEG since the pics just go onto PS and PS can't accept NEF RAW files.

Maybe I should look into using NEF RAW.
I have plenty of memory.

The D200 can also set the color space to sRGB or Adobe RGB.
I have had it set to sRGB.
Should I change it to Adobe RGB then go buy Photoshop (or the cheaper Adobe Elements)?

This is perplexing because the slightly washed out color happens to me only occasionally here on PS.
 
kenny said:
I'm not a pro, but am always looking for ways to improve my pics.
Thanks so much for the links which I'm saving for future study.

I have a Nikon D200 which can take pics on NEF (RAW) in addition to 3 resolutions of JPEG.
I've always just set the camera to the highest res of JPEG since the pics just go onto PS and PS can't accept NEF RAW files.

Maybe I should look into using NEF RAW.
I have plenty of memory.

The D200 can also set the color space to sRGB or Adobe RGB.
I have had it set to sRGB.
Should I change it to Adobe RGB then go buy Photoshop (or the cheaper Adobe Elements)?

This is perplexing because the slightly washed out color happens to me only occasionally here on PS.

D200 is an excellent camera. Yes, I'm aware of NEF RAW. It's just like my Canon Digital Photo Professional (DPP). Definitely, you should use NEF; it will give you a huge amount of control, that jpeg will not provide. I would leave it set to sRGB. Photoshop will help, but you should get 90% there with only NEF. I do amost all of my corrections in DPP, before it gets to Photoshop.
 
crystal and cut tourmalines 4.01-31.25 cts, Himalaya mine, San Diego county

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California spessartine garnet, diamond, tsavorite garnet

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Benitoite butterfly brooch, with rare orange Benitoite eyes

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Peridot butterfly brooch, 12.26 ct body, diamond and spessartine

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Butterfly brooch, Vietnam spinel, diamond, jeremejevite

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Tanzanite, 148 cts

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Butterfly brooch, Imperial topaz, blue topaz, diamond, rainbow moonstone

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Butterfly brooch, aquamarine, diamond, sapphire, citrine

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