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Gadabout44

Gadabout44

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Greetings!

After a trip to my local Diamond store, a few threads, and several helpful suggestions from the community in which I am very thankful for, I've rounded up a list of Diamonds that I'd like to purchase. This is for an engagement ring that I will have sent over to DKJ to work with. I am posting to ask the community to chose their top 2 and reason behind it, and also perhaps run a price check to see where I can purchase this for the best price possible. If that requires time, then please do not feel obligated to do so. DK himself said that he can do this for me. Aside from the diamonds listed below, I am also open to more suggestions. I am sorry to ask for such a huge favor from you all.

Just a quick run down here is my budget and the minimum specs that I am looking for:
Budget for Round Diamond: $8,500
Carats: 1.30
Clarity: Eye clean
Color: I
Cut: Excellent

What I require help on is determining whether or not the inclusions these diamonds contain are severe or at parts of the diamond that does not affect its look. I also require your expertise in putting consideration on the "hearts" and "Arrows". I feel that this is the aspect of a diamond where I am totally clueless on.

My Priorities are of course choosing the diamond that can give me the best bang for the buck for my budget. It has to be an excellent cut for the shine. The carats cannot be any lower than 1.30, initially I was set on a 1.4; however, I understand that it is unlikely I would find a quality diamond with my budget. The next is of course color, I've seen a couple "J" colored diamonds, and I was able to see a hint of coloration. Ideally I would like a G, but again I understand based on my budget, I would have to compromise other specs to obtain that color grade. As for the clarity, I understand that depending on the type of inclusions and where it is located, an SI1 diamond can look much cleaner than a VS1. What I am trying to achieve here is to compromise in clarity as low as possible to meet my budget where the Diamond still remains "eye clean".

1) 1.38 H-SI1 DK's suggestion: https://imgur.com/a/nzpUp
2) 1.31 I-SI1 https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3702264.htm
3) 1.34 H-VS2 https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4400549
4) 1.35 H-VS2 https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab
5) 1.33 H-VS2 https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab
6) 1.41 H-SI1 https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD09550881
7) 1.35 I-VVS1 https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3613469
8.) 1.31 H-VS1 https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3651160
9) 1.50 H-VS2 https://diamondsdirect.com/loose-diamond?stock=170741-39&utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc

Again, I am sorry to sound so casual in requesting such a favor. I understand this does take some time from peoples personal life. I would be very appreciative for any help given.

Thank you!!!
 
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" As for the clarity, I understand that depending on the type of inclusions and where it is located, an SI1 diamond can look much cleaner than a VS1."

Nope, that is absolutely not true! It might be as eyeclean as a VS1, but it isn't going to look cleaner. No way since VS1 inclusions are very hard to see with a 10x loupe and SI1 inclusions would easily be seen.

1) Great numbers if totally eyeclean (no picture of stone or price)

2)I love WF stones but that particular one is not 100% eyeclean. I'd choose this instead.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3963067.htm
1.25 I VS2 $8014

3) 1.34 H VS2 I like this one $9000 (kind of high)

4) 1.35 H VS2 I like this one and at $8700, it's a better buy than #3

5) 1.33 H-VS2 I like #4 better because it's cleaner and faces up larger

Be back with the rest later.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
" As for the clarity, I understand that depending on the type of inclusions and where it is located, an SI1 diamond can look much cleaner than a VS1."

Nope, that is absolutely not true! It might be as eyeclean as a VS1, but it isn't going to look cleaner. No way since VS1 inclusions are very hard to see with a 10x loupe and SI1 inclusions would easily be seen.

1) Great numbers if totally eyeclean (no picture of stone or price)

2)I love WF stones but that particular one is not 100% eyeclean. I'd choose this instead.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3963067.htm
1.25 I VS2 $8014

3) 1.34 H VS2 I like this one $9000 (kind of high)

4) 1.35 H VS2 I like this one and at $8700, it's a better buy than #3

5) 1.33 H-VS2 I like #4 better because it's cleaner and faces up larger

Be back with the rest later.
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Thank you, sorry I forgot to mention that the price of #1 is $8330
 
6) Bad inclusion under table, scratch this one

7) Do not like as well as some of the above, wouldn't pay extra for VVS1 but can't see price to compare, would rather have one of the H color stones the same size, so scratch this one

8. Faces up a little small due to depth, and due to high crown angle, this one would have to have an ASET image to consider it.

9) No image of the stone, no GIA report that I can find, forget this one.

Just let me go back and see what I'd choose, or at least narrow this down to 2 or 3. Are there magnified photos of #1? I see the price, thank you.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
6) Bad inclusion under table, scratch this one

7) Do not like as well as some of the above, wouldn't pay extra for VVS1 but can't see price to compare, would rather have one of the H color stones the same size, so scratch this one

8. Faces up a little small due to depth, and due to high crown angle, this one would have to have an ASET image to consider it.

9) No image of the stone, no GIA report that I can find, forget this one.

Just let me go back and see what I'd choose, or at least narrow this down to 2 or 3. Are there magnified photos of #1? I see the price, thank you.
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I've messaged David Klass to see if he can dig up some photos of #1. However, his response time is not the greatest. I do not htink I can provide any photos anytime soon of that Diamond. Other than photos, is there anything I should inquire to David about this Diamond?

Thank you for the time spent!
 
The numbers are great on the #1 stone. The inclusions will matter. It has clouds not shown on the plot, so the stone would have to be examined to determine if there were any issues due to the clouds. Cut is important to me, and the one with the best numbers is #1, however, I am just not sure about the clarity since the price is relatively low. #4 is pretty good. I'd rather have a Whiteflash stone personally, but that means spending a little more or going down a little in size.

Found #1 without a photo for a lower price! $8017 or $7777 wire. BEST price!

https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/113140...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Ohhh found the video and photos and images below the video, but B2C still has the best price! Looks beautiful! I'd call B2C to hold this for you! (Not the company below, their price is higher)

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1....Cut-Round-Diamond/D41435913?&refer=pricescope
 
I'd get this stone on hold quickly. Lurkers are around getting information. The video link is in the little box to the right of the GIA report box. Once you click on the video, the still image and light return images are below that. I'd still have B2C examine it to be sure clouds aren't an issue, but it looks wonderful in the video and as excellent a cut stone you can find outside of the superideal vendors.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
The numbers are great on the #1 stone. The inclusions will matter. It has clouds not shown on the plot, so the stone would have to be examined to determine if there were any issues due to the clouds. Cut is important to me, and the one with the best numbers is #1, however, I am just not sure about the clarity since the price is relatively low. #4 is pretty good. I'd rather have a Whiteflash stone personally, but that means spending a little more or going down a little in size.

Found #1 without a photo for a lower price! $8017 or $7777 wire. BEST price!

https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/113140...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Ohhh found the video and photos and images below the video, but B2C still has the best price! Looks beautiful! I'd call B2C to hold this for you! (Not the company below, their price is higher)

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/1....Cut-Round-Diamond/D41435913?&refer=pricescope
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diamondseeker2006 said:
I'd get this stone on hold quickly. Lurkers are around getting information. The video link is in the little box to the right of the GIA report box. Once you click on the video, the still image and light return images are below that. I'd still have B2C examine it to be sure clouds aren't an issue, but it looks wonderful in the video and as excellent a cut stone you can find outside of the superideal vendors.
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DK Just responded. He did say it is Eye clean. Unfortunately I was not able to ask for photos due to the fact that I responded before I was able to read your message. I will let David know to put this Diamond on hold.

Thank you!!!
 
I hope you told him that he needs to match the price of B2C! Because there's no way I'd pay his price. I'd call him back immediately if you didn't get the price adjusted.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
I hope you told him that he needs to match the price of B2C! Because there's no way I'd pay his price. I'd call him back immediately if you didn't get the price adjusted.
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DK JUst spoke to me on the phone. I was honest with him and told him that I found a better price through b2c. He seemed totally fine with it and had also suggested that it’s as good as it gets.

So I quickly made the purchase. Apparently when I was checking out the price was $8370 opposed to $8017 as shown. I quickly called b2c and had the privilege to talk to Harry. Harry told me that I was actually looking at a price scope referral link. He adjusted the price for me and I made the purchase online. At the same time ebates gave me 3.5% coupon. So I’ll be receiving nearly $300 back which takes it down to about $7,700!

OMG I’m so stoke.

The diamond is being shipped to DK where he can inspect the diamond.
 
YAY!!!! Oh my gosh that is SO exciting!!!!:appl::appl::appl::appl::appl:

I honestly didn't love any of the other stones. But this is the closest you'll ever find to a hearts and arrows stone in a virtual inventory. I knew the measurements were perfect, but I was uncertain about the clarity until I saw the video. The vidoes and images were excellent!!! This stone is far above the rest (other than the WF stones which were smaller). I am really happy for you to end up with a great stone at a great price...and cash back!!!
 
Yay. Bring your camera. We'll be waiting for pictures;)
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
YAY!!!! Oh my gosh that is SO exciting!!!!:appl::appl::appl::appl::appl:

I honestly didn't love any of the other stones. But this is the closest you'll ever find to a hearts and arrows stone in a virtual inventory. I knew the measurements were perfect, but I was uncertain about the clarity until I saw the video. The vidoes and images were excellent!!! This stone is far above the rest (other than the WF stones which were smaller). I am really happy for you to end up with a great stone at a great price...and cash back!!!
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Diamondseeker, I want to thank you for the prompt responses. I cant believe I was able to find one so suddenly. Granted, we still dont know if the Diamond is what we expect it to be. But from the looks of it, its looks promising. At the very least, if DK finds something bad about it, I will be here again asking for the community's favor.

I really want to thank this whole forum. I'd list every one of you who had contributed to my purchase in my past thread but just know that I recognize every one of you. Not a single post was left unnoticed. I've posted a handful of threads starting in January. And it was only because of a friend who had suggested that I visit this site. When I first came in here I was asking for a 1.4 carat diamond that is near colorless with a high clarity grade with my small budget. I know now how crazy that was but everyone here showed me respect and patience and even guided me along the way as far as educating me. It truly is the best community as I am a part of various forums as well as Reddit. You guys were not quick to brush off a stranger who was out of their mind. You guys helped my friend make a purchase, as well as I, so I thank you all.

Ill most likely be posting real soon asking for tips and suggestions for a setting. And the only way I can repay everyone here is to share photos and perhaps a video once everything is all done.
 
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It's posts like yours that keep people like me and many others hanging around here for years! Most of us came here just like you did. I knew nothing when I came other than I didn't know how to identify quality in a diamond and I was afraid to buy without greater knowledge. This was the right place!

We'd love to help with the setting! And we definitely will look forward to pictures after it is finished. Update us on the diamond, but I am hoping and expecting it to be ok as far as the clarity issues are concerned.
 
So there is a snag in the whole purchase.

I just received a call from Anita over at B2C. The call was in regards to my Credit card that I used. Long story short, I called my card company to let the transaction go through, however my bank confirmed with me that the charge was actually for $8,2XX.XX.

The Diamond was retailed for $8,370.00; however DiamondSeeker provided a pricescope referral link above that showed the Diamond to be $8,017 for a non bank wire payment. The Bank wire payment was actually lower at $7,777 dollars. (You can see DiamondSeeker point this out in his post above as well). Harry is the employee whom I spoke to on the phone yesterday when I was going through the purchase. I quickly called Harry as stated in the post above, and he promised that if I pay the $8,370.00 he will tell their payment department to adjust the charge so that I will see a charge of $8,017 rather than a charge for $8,370 in my credit card statement.

So of course, I gave Anita a called back to tell her that 1) They can process the transaction again and the card should go through; and 2) that the amount was incorrect, the amount should be for $8,017, and not for $8,2XX.XX dollars.

To make a long discussion short, Anita claims that the extra charge is actually the Credit Card fee that was not brought up to me. However, she also pulled the clueless card, and had even made the claim that the $8017 amount was for the bank wire charge. I told her, that true with the non Pricescope referral link, but the pricescope link showed $8,017 and $7,777 for a bank wire charge. I wanted to show her the link, but unfortunately the link now says the diamond has been sold (by me) and no longer shows the Pricescope price.

Anyways, I told Anita that she must contact Harry and go through our phone calls. I made it clear with Harry that I will be using a Card and that the amount he will be charging me is for $8,017.00

Forgive my ignorance, I'm not sure if this is standard. I wasnt aware that there will be a "Credit Card" fee. I mean it makes sense, but please someone chime in if this is nothing to be concern of. If so, I will just pay the $8,2XX.XX price tag
 
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I don't know if that's changed but discounts were always contingent on bank wire prices, hopefully DS or one of the others will pop in to confirm as it's something I need to get spun up on.
 
Folks, B2C (more specifically Anita) has resolve the confusion.

She apologized because on their end they did not see the numbers that DiamondSeeker and myself were seeing. They did confirm that the price is for a total of $8,017.00.

The purchase is going through and will be shipped over to DK.

Thank you once again to everyone
 
Gadabout44 said:
Folks, B2C (more specifically Anita) has resolve the confusion.

She apologized because on their end they did not see the numbers that DiamondSeeker and myself were seeing. They did confirm that the price is for a total of $8,017.00.

The purchase is going through and will be shipped over to DK.

Thank you once again to everyone
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Very good, I'm glad that's sorted for you!
 
Congratulations and hope you are pleased with the purchase!
 
@Gadabout44 -

After your first post, I spoke to David about his upgrade policy. He has always offered one, but is in the process of finalizing something that he will put up on his website. I'm not sure what it will be, so will not attempt to speak for him. Just something that might be helpful for others to know.

If you don't mind - I might add this to your other thread, also; it's useful information. And....

Nice diamond!!
 
Gadabout44 said:
Folks, B2C (more specifically Anita) has resolve the confusion.

She apologized because on their end they did not see the numbers that DiamondSeeker and myself were seeing. They did confirm that the price is for a total of $8,017.00.

The purchase is going through and will be shipped over to DK.

Thank you once again to everyone
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Whew! Thank goodness that was corrected! My daughter came home from college yesterday for a little over 24 hours and I wasn't on PS much at all! I was relieved when I came to this post where things were resolved!:appl:
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
Whew! Thank goodness that was corrected! My daughter came home from college yesterday for a little over 24 hours and I wasn't on PS much at all! I was relieved when I came to this post where things were resolved!:appl:
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I hope you have a lovely weekend with family, Happy Easter to you and yours and to everyone else!:wavey:
 
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