Really really need prong help :(

[Niel]

So I stopped into a jeweler today to have my chryso.
Besides being kind of insulting and asking "oh is this like a family peridot?"

They said they would not set my stone in my setting. Said it did not fit and there was NOTHING to be done about it.

Now I had some concern it wouldn't work as is, as my EC has deep corners, and the head is a perfect rectangle, but the sides do fit the stone. I was concerned they might have to add to the prongs or something. But they said there was nothing to do. That can't be the answer. I need it to fit.

What can I do?! Who can help??

 

[Niel]

I feel like you could put gold at the base of each prong and solve the problem. But that might be idiotic.

 

[chrono]

I am sorry to say the stone is too small for the setting. When you look at the top down view, you still have to account for the corners of the EC, making it even smaller than the setting. I am not well versed in benchwork but I'm guessing there is little to be done about it. Sure, you can tweak it by making the prongs giant and thick enough to take up all that empty air space but the overall look will not be attractive. The prongs have to be close enough to touch the stone so that the bench can notch a seat in the prongs to hold the stone at the girdle.

 

[Niel]

I am sorry to say the stone is too small for the setting. When you look at the top down view, you still have to account for the corners of the EC, making it even smaller than the setting. I am not well versed in benchwork but I'm guessing there is little to be done about it.

I'm just pissed as I gave them lots of pictures of the stone. Anyone would assume those needed to be accounted for.

I really need this to work I don't want to sell it and try something else.

 

[Niel]

Could a bench like shorten the basket or anything like that??

 

[chrono]

I'm sorry Niel. When trying to guesstimate the size, the basket is typically slightly smaller than the diameter of the stone. In your picture, the stone looks to be the same size as the basket. Can you contact the vendor and tell them their calculation was incorrect, hence the setting is too large for the stone, and perhaps they might be able to figure out something to your satisfaction?

 

[chrono]

Could a bench like shorten the basket or anything like that??

Not in this case, I'm afraid because you have the side diamonds coming all the way up to the basket itself.

 

[soxfan]

couldn't a decent bench just flare out the sides, sink the stone a little and bezel it? Or am I just stupid?

 

[chrono]

The stone is the right height for bezelling but there isn't enough metal for the lip, which means rebuilding the basket, which equals more $$$.

 

[Niel]

Here's what the setting looks like sans stone. Could they cut the basket in the middle, take some, metal out and close it up?

 

[Niel]

Here's what the setting looks like sans stone. Could they cut the basket in the middle, take some, metal out and close it up?

Oh the picture.

 

[chrono]

My concern is that there is very little to no metal that can be removed because the basket is supporting the side diamonds. See picture below. To remove some or any metal might leave the setting in jeapordy of losing structural strength.

 

[Niel]

Like sizing from the top ?

 

[chrono]

You would have decreased only the width, leaving the length the same. I don't know if that would be enough. Have you talked to any jeweller to find out the cost of this "surgery"? When I opened up the basket of my platinum setting, the jeweller charged me $300.

 

[bcavitt]

I checked with our store's shop foreman and he said there is no practical way to modify the setting to accomodate your chryso. I really was hoping he would have an idea that would work, but he had none. The corners of the stone are too far away from anything to make it work. Sorry.

 

[Niel]

I checked with our store's shop foreman and he said there is no practical way to modify the setting to accomodate your chryso. I really was hoping he would have an idea that would work, but he had none. The corners of the stone are too far away from anything to make it work. Sorry.

Thanks.

God that's depressing.

I don't think I can get the money back as it was custom and they told me I should send it to them. But I figured how hard could it be? I mean had it accounted even slightly for the corners it might have been OK.

 

[kgizo]

I haven't posted before but I have been following your threads on this ring, and I feel for you. It must suck to put so much effort into a project and have it fall apart at the 5 yd line. I almost hate to suggest this because it is a beautiful stone, but could you stay within budget by selling the stone and keeping the setting? I'm hoping there was a close 2nd runner up stone for you.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Major construction on that setting is probably not worth it anyways. If you like the setting, suggest you keep it and sell the stone. I don't know the history on the stone but it isn't a top quality peridot and its not too hard/expensive to replace with a like/better quality.

 

[Niel]

I haven't posted before but I have been following your threads on this ring, and I feel for you. It must suck to put so much effort into a project and have it fall apart at the 5 yd line. I almost hate to suggest this because it is a beautiful stone, but could you stay within budget by selling the stone and keeping the setting? I'm hoping there was a close 2nd runner up stone for you.

Oh it really does suck. And I feel for my BIL who was really excited about it. Now deflated.

The setting was one we KNOW she liked. Fits her finger and her style. She's vintage, needs some diamonds in the setting, and wanted a squared color center stone.

I've returned the stone to Peter as hard as that was to do. We've arranged for him to cut me a center stone to fit. The medium was the other type of center she liked, though its not PS approved. I think shell love it. But I'm disappeared its not what we had originally envisioned.

 

[MakingTheGrade]

Any chance peter can help you out? Maybe he has more rough around and you could trade this one in?

Sigh, so frustrating! We were so excited in CS to see this one come to fruition!

 

[Niel]

Any chance peter can help you out? Maybe he has more rough around and you could trade this one in?

Sigh, so frustrating! We were so excited in CS to see this one come to fruition!

See the problem was that stone wasn't rough. It was a stone recut from one he bought down in Arizona. So there's no more rough of that to be had.

He is being amazing. I presented him with my situation. He said he usually doesn't take it back but as its a really nice stone he took it back instead of me selling it second hand. Really a better situation for both parties.

There's no other stone I could put in there she would like that size and in budget...... well. Almost nothing he can cut for me.

 

[Ashleigh]

Would a double bezel work, something like that on DBL? Wouldn't a double bezel fill up all the empty space?

 

[MakingTheGrade]

Ah, maybe put out an SOS in the CS forum to find a 7.5 x 5.5 stone? Did the jeweler know what dimensions the mount would fit? Can I ask what budget the new stone has to be? Barry might be able to help, at the least, he probably has some really nice red garnet that could do in a pinch.