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art3013

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Hi,

Newbie here, need to get an idea of a realistic timeline re: picking out a diamond & setting for an engagement ring. Need to also factor in sending it away for an independent appraisal. Is 3 weeks possible, 2 weeks?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Art
 
depends. definitely possible, though. stone shape? color/clarity targets? budget? type of setting?
 
Totally depends on a lot of factors.

1. Will the ring itself be custom made or stock from a vendor? This makes a BIG difference in time. If you want something custom, it''s usually 4 weeks minimum and more often like 6 weeks.

2. Do you want very specific specs for your diamond? Or are you flexible to what''s in stock? For example, if you want a 1.47 G SI1, that might take longer than if you want something around 1.5, near colorless, and eyeclean. Make sense?

3. Do you need to send it somewhere to be appraised? If so, count on at least 4 business days shipping time each way, then time to be appraised, etc. If you are bringing it somewhere local, you can make an appointment and be done in a few hours.

So, for a completely in-stock Whiteflash ACA with a stock setting, and a local appraiser, you can do it in less than 2 weeks easily. Then add on the appropriate amount of time for the other various things I''ve mentioned, THEN cushion it if you can.

What is the purpose of the appraisal if I may ask? If you just need it for insurance, the vendor should send an appraisal that is good enough to insure the ring with in the meantime before you can send it off to be appraised.

Hope that helps!
 
As long as you buy a GIA or AGS stone from a trustworthy vendor, I see no reason you need to send it to an independent appraiser. The cert is the verification of the stone being what the vendor represents it as. If you choose a stock setting, you could probably have the ring in a week. If the setting is special order or custom, you might be looking at 2-8 weeks.
 
What shape are you looking for?? If it''s a round, that''s easy unless you are looking for a hard to find size, as was already mentioned. Also what is your budget, and what kind of setting are you looking for. If you are looking for a cushion or an asscher, that takes longer.
 
If you are getting a basic round diamond in a stock setting, 2 weeks is possible. However, if you want a custom designed setting and/or a more difficult shape stone to shop for it''s going to take a lot longer maybe 5 weeks.
 
Thank you for your replies. I am looking for a round diamond, budget around $15K. I have seen a lot of antique settings and a Tacori (sp?) one that I liked as well. As for using an independent appraiser, just want to have the security of someone that actuall knows what they are doing evaluating the stone. I have been looking over this website for a couple of days but am still intimidated by all their is to learn. Since I have a relatively tight timeline (3 weeks), want to see what is possible.

Thanks again for all of your help!!
 
Date: 5/6/2007 10:35:47 PM
Author: art3013
Thank you for your replies. I am looking for a round diamond, budget around $15K. I have seen a lot of antique settings and a Tacori (sp?) one that I liked as well. As for using an independent appraiser, just want to have the security of someone that actuall knows what they are doing evaluating the stone. I have been looking over this website for a couple of days but am still intimidated by all their is to learn. Since I have a relatively tight timeline (3 weeks), want to see what is possible.


Thanks again for all of your help!!
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Someone can correct me if I''m wrong, but I believe that Tacori rings are all custom made, thus I doubt you will be able to get one within 3 weeks.

What about buying the stone from a great place like Whiteflash (they will also help you pick a winner and if you stick with their ACA''s you won''t have a problem picking a good one), having them set it in a temp setting to propose, then picking the final setting together?

I think that''s the only way you''ll get something in time unless you pick a basic setting from a vendor that is in stock. But if I were you, I would buy a diamond ASAP to make sure the deadline isn''t missed.

Oh, and if you buy from WF (or another reputable PS vendor) there is really no need for an appraisal right away, so you can cut the timeline a little.
 
I found the following stones that I am interested in. Could greatly use your feedback.

# 1 - 1.71, G, VS1, T-57%, D-60.9%, Polish&Symmetry - VG, cut - Excellent, $17,299
# 2 - 1.717, I, VS1, T-55.9%, D-61.6%, Polish&Symmetry - Ideal, cut - ACA, $13,838
# 3 - 1.67, H, VVS2, T-58%, D-62.2%, Polish&Symmetry - VG, cut - Premium, $13,970
# 4 - 1.63, H, VS2, T-56%, D-61.5%, Polish&Symmetry - Idea, cut - Signature Ideal, $14,010

Thanks!
Art
 
I don't know a ton about rounds but:

1. Looks like you're looking at Bluenile. Just an FYI they don't have an upgrade policy if it's important to you.

2. ACA stones are almost always winners and they have been hand selected by someone at WF. If you're on a time crunch they are almost always great options and WF will work with you personally to make sure you get your ring in time.

3. CUT is THE most important C, so make sure you run everything through the Holloway Cut Advisor and I would stick with the best cut options from each vendor if you're in a time crunch.
 
The numbers are great. Make sure you are OK with a J color, for some people they actually prefer it but for others it''s a little too warm. You can look at this link if you like: but realize they are exageratting the differences by using a white background, putting them face down, & comparing it to a "D" color:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Color/NearColorless/

I''m not the best at reading an Idealscope/ASET, but from what I know the light return also looks exceptional.

The pattern seems slighltly off at the top of the diamond, but that may be me totally not reading the images properly =)
 
Looks really nice!!! I think you''ve found a stone!
 
Date: 5/6/2007 10:35:47 PM
Author: art3013
Thank you for your replies. I am looking for a round diamond, budget around $15K. As for using an independent appraiser, just want to have the security of someone that actuall knows what they are doing evaluating the stone. I have been looking over this website for a couple of days but am still intimidated by all their is to learn.
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I think you''re smart in wanting to have a $15,000 investment verified as being worthy by an independent appraiser. That''s a lot of money, and I personally would want to know everything I could about an item I was investing that kind of money. I would want to know what the appraiser thought of that stone, both pros and cons.

With most appraisals running you between $100 to $190, it seems like cheap insurance from making a possibly much more expensive mistake.

God knows I''ve seen plenty of them (mistakes). They''re easy to rectify upfront (if you''re informed). Practically impossible to rectify after point-of-sale.
 
Alright, you spooked me with the J color. What do you think of these:

1.31 E VVS2 60.7% 58% GIA tn-md vg ex n 7.05x7.11x4.30 $12,860 - James Allen
1.56 G VS2 61.6% 55% GIA tn ex vg 7.50x7.52x4.59 - $13,599 - WhiteFlash

A little apprehensive with the one from WF since it does not have a picture.
 
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