re: clarity....Is there ANY logical reason to buy IF/VVS etc?

[Allison D.]

Date: 7/23/2009 4:55:21 PM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 7/23/2009 4:51:54 PM
Author: Allison D.

Date: 7/23/2009 4:03:55 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

But is that a logical reason? That is the OP''s question I believe.

To me, the answer is yes, the reasons Dave listed are logical reasons.

If I value rarity enough to pay for it, then it''s a logical reason. If I value knowing that my diamond my diamond''s clarity is in the upper end of the range, that''s also a logical reason.

Nope, I consider that an emotional, cultural reason, that is not universal and apply to everyone, across board.

To quote OP''s question.

I mean of course anyone should be able to buy what they want !, but are there reasons to look for an IF or VVS ring besides ego? (Like resale value, scintillation, anything?)

Stone, you are adorable, but let me reassure you that there''s nothing wrong with my reading comprehension.

I understood the question, and I replied with an answer I feel does answer the question.

I highlighted the two most important words in your post: *you* consider it an emotional reason. I respect that''s your viewpoint, but it''s not universally shared.

I think it''s completely logical to make buying decisions based on our personal value systems. The reasons behind my choices (or yours or anyone''s) don''t have to universally apply to all to make them qualify as logical.

Whenever you make a well-informed choice based on your own values, that''s a logical buying decision. It doesn''t mean it would be a logical decision for everyone (or even anyone) else, but it means it''s logical for you.

Our wants influence our buying decisions; we seldom buy thing we don''t want unless we can''t manage without them. However, we buy many things that aren''t "necessities". Junk food. Homes (we only need shelter, it doesn''t have to come through home ownership). Cars (we could use public transport). Sure, there are potential monetary advantages or pitfalls that might neutralize some of our other reasons, but applying personal values to purchases is a logical thing....at least to me.

 

[jstarfireb]

Date: 7/23/2009 7:32:44 PM
Author: Moh 10
I consider myself a highly informed and sophisticated diamond customer.
The more I learned the more I gravitated towards DEF VVS stones.

So I wouldn''t say people who want high clarity and color are ignorant.

Now granted, an ignorant person may think high clarity and color make a stone look beautiful, while cut is primarily responsible for that.
But still, even after I learned that it is good cut that is responsible for a diamond''s light show I still want high color and clarity.

I''d never say anything to suggest that the people who prefer I SI1 range stones have big egos since they want large stones or their stones are dirty or icky.

I''d never say their stones are a waste of money because they are low color and clarity.
I''d never say I first bought an SI1 because of stupidity and my next stone will be VVS.
Yet those are the kinds of statements people have made (in the other clarity direction) in this thread.
People, lets be more respectful when choosing our words.

I really think this all boils down to accepting diversity.
Other people are not like me, and that''s okay.

And my goodness, none of this is logical.
Nobody needs a diamond, let alone one with this or that grade combination.
We buy them because we want them.
Any diamond purchase is 10 times more emotional than logical.

Well said. It comes down to personal preference. My thoughts as the owner of a VVS2...I used to be more interested in high clarity than I am now. I wanted to stay VS2 and above when we bought my engagement ring. If I upgrade, I will probably seek out a lower clarity to save money, but I don''t think that buying my VVS2 was a poor decision. It was a beautiful diamond and within his budget. And in fact, it is really nice to look at my diamond through a loupe and not be able to see imperfections.

 

[AprilBaby]

Some people just want perfection...and if they can afford it? why not?

 

[cindygenit]

its a preference thing.

who says diamond buying is logical?

 

[Venice]

Date: 7/23/2009 3:57:11 PM
Author: oldminer
You have to respect the individuality of diamond lovers. Some people want a tiny bit of perfection that nature has provided. Others simply don''t care about what they can''t appreciate with their naked eyes. Who sits in judgment of these different appraoches to what they want to own in a diamond? We have visitors here from cultures which seek a nearly perfect slice of nature and others who come from a cuture which is in love with larger size rather than a lack of inclusions. Both have their place although we may find our own ideas don''t correspond with their''s.

Thank you so much, oldminer, for your words of wisdom.

 

[vip0802]

Date: 7/23/2009 3:57:11 PM
Author: oldminer
You have to respect the individuality of diamond lovers. Some people want a tiny bit of perfection that nature has provided. Others simply don''t care about what they can''t appreciate with their naked eyes. Who sits in judgment of these different appraoches to what they want to own in a diamond? We have visitors here from cultures which seek a nearly perfect slice of nature and others who come from a cuture which is in love with larger size rather than a lack of inclusions. Both have their place although we may find our own ideas don''t correspond with their''s.

well said!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/24/2009 1:39:44 AM
Author: vip0802

Date: 7/23/2009 3:57:11 PM
Author: oldminer
You have to respect the individuality of diamond lovers. Some people want a tiny bit of perfection that nature has provided. Others simply don''t care about what they can''t appreciate with their naked eyes. Who sits in judgment of these different appraoches to what they want to own in a diamond? We have visitors here from cultures which seek a nearly perfect slice of nature and others who come from a cuture which is in love with larger size rather than a lack of inclusions. Both have their place although we may find our own ideas don''t correspond with their''s.

well said!

Thritto