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Halogirl1130

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Have any of you ever used rare carat to find a diamond? They seem to find diamonds with better prices than some venders.
 

lovedogs

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Have any of you ever used rare carat to find a diamond? They seem to find diamonds with better prices than some venders.

Yup, lots of people use them to search because they allow you to specify crown and pavillion angle, which most websites do not. I think they are a helpful resource.
 

anangel

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I used RareCarat to find my vendor but ultimately went with a diamond that was on the vendor site but not Rarecarats search engine.
 

OoohShiny

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I didn't realise RareCarat had an MMD search engine!

This is super useful, thank you for posting! :))

I'll mention it on the MMD sellers thread!
 

vintageinjune

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I have had fun playing around with their search engine, but as of now have yet to transition from playing around to resulting in an actual purchase through them.
 

Halogirl1130

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I have had fun playing around with their search engine, but as of now have yet to transition from playing around to resulting in an actual purchase through them.

Me too! Lol I look all the time hahaha.
 

Peaceandsunshine

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I wish I knew more about what crown and pavilion angle to search for!
 

vintageinjune

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I wish I knew more about what crown and pavilion angle to search for!

My understanding of the basic "guidelines" for modern round brilliant cuts is as follows:

Table: 54-57 (up to 58 possible)

Depth: 60-62.3

Crown angle: 34-35 (35.5 may with with a pavillion angle closer to 40.6)

Pavillion angle: 40.6-40.9 (up to 41 may work if the crown angle is close to 34)

Angles falling within these parameters does not of course guarantee a diamond with great optics, but tend to be a good starting point.

Once upon a time I believed that a diamond with angles falling in these ranges in addition to an HCA score of 2 or under would always yield superior optics and performance, but am learning this is not always the case.
 

ThiaChelf

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I'm new here but I just bought two rings off with clarity through rare carat.
 

vetrik

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My understanding of the basic "guidelines" for modern round brilliant cuts is as follows:

Table: 54-57 (up to 58 possible)

Depth: 60-62.3

Crown angle: 34-35 (35.5 may with with a pavillion angle closer to 40.6)

Pavillion angle: 40.6-40.9 (up to 41 may work if the crown angle is close to 34)

Angles falling within these parameters does not of course guarantee a diamond with great optics, but tend to be a good starting point.

Once upon a time I believed that a diamond with angles falling in these ranges in addition to an HCA score of 2 or under would always yield superior optics and performance, but am learning this is not always the case.

I used Rare Carat initially to search - I found a vendor with good prices and ended up ordering a stone directly through them that was not on Rare Carat. I wanted to check out a better cut though, and found a stone with the same vendor that was on Rare Carat which I ordered through them since it was a little cheaper then the vendor directly. Rare Carat only facilitated the payment and the initial request to confirm availability, all my communication regarding shipping came from the vendor.

It’s scheduled to be delivered tomorrow and I’m excited to see it - it matches those suggested cut numbers, scored a 1.2 on the HCA and looks nice in the video. I’m curious to compare to the stone that is not as well cut (by the numbers).
 

vintageinjune

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I used Rare Carat initially to search - I found a vendor with good prices and ended up ordering a stone directly through them that was not on Rare Carat. I wanted to check out a better cut though, and found a stone with the same vendor that was on Rare Carat which I ordered through them since it was a little cheaper then the vendor directly. Rare Carat only facilitated the payment and the initial request to confirm availability, all my communication regarding shipping came from the vendor.

It’s scheduled to be delivered tomorrow and I’m excited to see it - it matches those suggested cut numbers, scored a 1.2 on the HCA and looks nice in the video. I’m curious to compare to the stone that is not as well cut (by the numbers).

Please do share your thoughts (and some pictures if you can!) once you have had some time with your new diamond.

Do you own another diamond that isn't as well cut (by the numbers) to compare to in person?
 

vetrik

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Please do share your thoughts (and some pictures if you can!) once you have had some time with your new diamond.

Do you own another diamond that isn't as well cut (by the numbers) to compare to in person?

I’ll definitely be posting! I actually still have the diamond that isn’t as well cut until Monday when I send it back, so I’ll try to get some pics this weekend. I will say that I received the diamond today, and the difference the cut makes was even more than I thought!
 

MrsSparkle

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Yes!! I had no luck with any of the family owned stores around me. The prices were so high and I didn’t like anything. I decided to check out rare carat. I ended up finding my stone and vendor. Another great thing is that I didn’t have to pay tax!! 22B25BCC-4245-4F08-8247-99CE28AFA7D0.jpeg
 

Halogirl1130

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Yes!! I had no luck with any of the family owned stores around me. The prices were so high and I didn’t like anything. I decided to check out rare carat. I ended up finding my stone and vendor. Another great thing is that I didn’t have to pay tax!! 22B25BCC-4245-4F08-8247-99CE28AFA7D0.jpeg

That is beautiful! Do you mind sharing specs and possibly how much it cost/ which vender it came from?
 

MrsSparkle

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Thank you so much! Yes I’ll include a pic of the spec. GIA, triple X, It’s SI1 (eye clean) I, 3.64 I paid 39,113 the vendor I used was Daniel Williams. It’s a family owned business and it was an amazing experience. I’ll have them do my eternity band in the future. E58F4E8F-3D5B-4B64-8887-8193E28D0F14.jpeg
 

MrsSparkle

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I forgot to add but ask to speak to Daniel. He was so helpful with my ring.
 

Garry H (Cut Nut)

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My understanding of the basic "guidelines" for modern round brilliant cuts is as follows:

Table: 54-57 (up to 58 possible)

Depth: 60-62.3

Crown angle: 34-35 (35.5 may with with a pavillion angle closer to 40.6)

Pavillion angle: 40.6-40.9 (up to 41 may work if the crown angle is close to 34)

Angles falling within these parameters does not of course guarantee a diamond with great optics, but tend to be a good starting point.

Once upon a time I believed that a diamond with angles falling in these ranges in addition to an HCA score of 2 or under would always yield superior optics and performance, but am learning this is not always the case.
Unreasonably restrictive urban myth
 

OoohShiny

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Unreasonably restrictive urban myth
I thought of you when I read that post :lol: lol

I think this bit in that post is important and references the ability to look outside those parameters! :)

Angles falling within these parameters does not of course guarantee a diamond with great optics, but tend to be a good starting point.

Once upon a time I believed that a diamond with angles falling in these ranges in addition to an HCA score of 2 or under would always yield superior optics and performance, but am learning this is not always the case.
 

OoohShiny

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