I''ll ave the 6.3mm FIC, and i KNOW Amanda will too! Thanks Garry, been searching for that answer a while nowDate: 10/6/2005 7:12:35 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Oh, I get you Daniel.
In our diamond grading lab, with loads of fluoro lights suspended from the ceiling, we have boxes of diamonds in reserve stock. If i ask the girls to select out of say 20 stones, the brightest diamonds, and then the firey''st ones, then they are awlays as I could predict re BIC and FIC.
But the most fire would be 3-4 sparkles of fire in FIC vs 1-3 in BIC - there may be 5 - 10 bright white sparkles in each.
Girls prefer FIC every time. But when they get down to choosing with a budget, they usually sacrifice fire for the larger spread of the BIC''s once a budget is imposed.
Ya can ave this 6.3mm 1ct FIC or this 6.5mm 1ct BIC luv - witch''l it be?
16% crown, 53% table AGS0 & ACA.... candidateDate: 10/6/2005 8:23:56 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Smaller tables also contribute to more fire.
There have been a couple of other FIC H&A around here and all were found after some rather long search among the usual lot of H&A ideals. H&A ideals are a pretty specialized niche anyway, I do not know of any shop which may specialzie in even narrower types.Date: 10/6/2005 11:06:46 AM
Author: Daniel B
-- Any good websites that specialize/carry nice FIC''s?
GarryDate: 10/6/2005 7:55:26 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Well Daniel, if you are like me and prefer ''things'' a little top heavy, yu will love the way these FIC''s poke out
That is one of the hidden pleasures of FIC''s that most people only enjoy after they made a purchase.
The poor princess''s really miss out in this respect.
BTW these are both to scale - 6.3mm and 6.5mm 1ct stones with the exact same girdle %.
He he!Date: 10/7/2005 2:12:16 AM
Author: Mara
I almost want to tell you not to make this harder than it needs to be Daniel.
Date: 10/7/2005 2:12:16 AM
Author: Mara
I almost want to tell you not to make this harder than it needs to be Daniel. You are so concerned with BIC and FIC when in reality you said you just want something to knock your girl''s socks off. To me that is a balance of BOTH fire and brilliance and not sacrificing for one or the other, UNLESS YOU KNOW FOR SURE that is what you want aka after seeing stones to know what you are looking out. Just starting out...I''d venture to say you don''t know what a FIC looks like vs a BIC etc. If I were you, knowing what I know now, I''d get an amazing ideal cut H&A or similar that will flash fire and brilliance when in the right light surroundings for each of those phenomenons, and call it a day.
Yeah, it''s nice to pick up personal choices and what not, but buying for someone else (i.e. fianceeDate: 10/7/2005 9:17:33 AM
Author: JohnQuixote
Great thread.... balanced perspective from Mara.
These TIC-BIC-FIC are ters used to describe certain ranges of Ideal proportions on the Ideal-Scope and pricescope tutorials. they are not in the dictionaryDate: 10/7/2005 12:40:20 PM
Author: jellybeans
I have not been able to find a TIC for sale anywhere.
Ideal RB's are everywhere, and readily found for sale. A BIC does mean Brilliant Ideal cut, and its is slightly different from a regular Ideal cut, such that it specializes in yeailding brilliance (white light)-- usually the BIC's have larger tables than most other rounds and shallower crowns.Date: 10/7/2005 12:40:20 PM
Author: jellybeans
Mara:
>> Good luck finding a FIC or a BIC for that matter...they are far and few between.
I thought round brilliant diamonds with ideal cuts were the ones often found for sale--am I mistaken in what a BIC means? Isn't it Brilliant Ideal Cut? How is that different from an ideal cut H&A or any other ideal cut?
Also, I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly, but does all this information mean that a TIC is an ideal choice because it provides the best balance of brilliance and fire? I have not been able to find a TIC for sale anywhere.
Date: 10/7/2005 11:20:20 AM
Author: valeria101
Yeah, it's nice to pick up personal choices and what not, but buying for someone else (i.e. fiancee) is a different matter. Even if there is no absolute 'best' among diamonds and opinions will always differ infron tof a lineup of BIC, FIC and who knows what else... for the perfect surprise there has to be a 'perfect', no-way-to-go-wrong choice. And that's usually somewhere in the middle. Sometimes I wonder if this is just a matter of rhetoric rather than true diamond technicalities, but regardless - Mara's balanced take is the right one, IMO.
It would probably be a very lovely stone...but I probably wouldn''t buy it for my HAND. That''s just me though. One opinion.Date: 10/7/2005 1:49:09 PM
Author: jellybeans
Thank you, everyone, for all the explanations. They really helped.
Would this be a ''good'' TIC? It scores 1.9 on the HCA with four Very Goods and ''within TIC range.''
Color: G
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 61.2
Table: 57
Crown Angle: 35
Crown %: 15.1
Pavilion Angle: 40.9
Pavilion %: 43.1
Girdle: Medium to Slightly thick Faceted
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: Negligible
Would it have enough fire?
Mara, a lot of these numbers are out of your superpicky ranges.Would this still be a good stone?