question about a certain marking on diamond diagram on egl report

[scorcher31]

Hey guys I posted here previously and found a stone i am really happy with. I may revive my old post later with the specs and everything to get a full opinion as well. For now though I have one concern. On the EGL-usa cert they have these 2 symmetrical markings on each side of the diamond like half a square. I’m not sure what color they are drawn in as I only have a copy of the cert. I have attached a different egl cert I randomly found online but the 1/2 boxes drawn on the pavilion are very similar to mine. http://diamondmansion.com/TEMP/Andrew/EGL2930092328.jpg I was wondering if you guys knew what these are? Are these extra facets? cracks? anything that will cause the stone to break and devalue it greatly. The stone I’m looking at is supposed to a vvs2 and it is almost clear on the loop (probably a gia vs1), but I really didn’t get a good look at the corners and didn’t notice this on the cert until I came home with the copy for now. I''m assuming if they were noticeable cracks or what not the stone would never be given such a nice clarity. I also doubt they are cracks because they are so symmetrically drawn on the cert. As always, thanks again for all your help.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/3/2010 1:06:37 AM
Author:scorcher31
Hey guys I posted here previously and found a stone i am really happy with. I may revive my old post later with the specs and everything to get a full opinion as well. For now though I have one concern. On the EGL-usa cert they have these 2 symmetrical markings on each side of the diamond like half a square. I’m not sure what color they are drawn in as I only have a copy of the cert. I have attached a different egl cert I randomly found online but the 1/2 boxes drawn on the pavilion are very similar to mine. http://diamondmansion.com/TEMP/Andrew/EGL2930092328.jpg I was wondering if you guys knew what these are? Are these extra facets? cracks? anything that will cause the stone to break and devalue it greatly. The stone I’m looking at is supposed to a vvs2 and it is almost clear on the loop (probably a gia vs1), but I really didn’t get a good look at the corners and didn’t notice this on the cert until I came home with the copy for now. I'm assuming if they were noticeable cracks or what not the stone would never be given such a nice clarity. I also doubt they are cracks because they are so symmetrically drawn on the cert. As always, thanks again for all your help.

Those look like naturals, plotted in green opposite each other. These normally aren't of concern, naturals are a little piece of the rough diamond's ' skin' which are left on sometimes to increase the carat weight, possibly in this case to hit the 1.25ct mark.

If you buy this diamond make sure you negotiate a return policy ( and get it in writing) in order to get the diamond independantly appraised to make sure it checks out.

appraiser listing

Also have you compared many stones of top cut quality so you can see how this one compares?

 

[scorcher31]

The actual stone I’m looking at was originally an egl-israel that was graded ideal cut, h color, vs2 clarity. The jeweler had it regraded by egl-usa and it actually came back vvs2 color h. I''ve personally look at the stone and about 10 other stones the same day at other jewelers. This was the only stone i can say i saw barely anything inside. In comparison to a gia vs2 id say this is probably a gia vs1 if i had to guess. He told me before he had it regraded it would not increase the price, as he already bought the diamond for a certain price and was basing my price off it. I know h vvs2 is kind of a waste of the vvs2 with that color, but hey I’m not paying extra (except i think 100 increase in the stone price for the regrading). The EGL appraisal with the cert was $18500 (which he said is over double the price)

the stone is 1.22 ct, egl ideal, clarity vvs2, color h, faint fluro, very good symm, very good polish
table 57%, depth 60.7%, crown angle 33.9, pav angle 40.8, girdle 3.6-1.4, no cutlet.

There are those naturals on the gem diagram and maybe 2 small dots on the diagram.

I think the price for the stone and engagement ring/wedding band set(thin yellow gold band with small diamonds in 1 line following band) and tax is $6600. I have to double check, but I think the stone came out to $5600. My girlfriend actually really liked this stone and I did as well. I am seriously wondering if I am getting a decent deal on this stone, which I know is unlikely. This guy is a local jeweler and it''s a friend of a friend situation. He let us take the stone in the daylight and in the shade to look at it in different lighting as well. Sorry I''f I''m going on and on, it''s just an exciting time for me. Thanks again for your help

 

[WinkHPD]

I am not seeing any color in the copy of the report that you posted, but those look like they are probably extra facets to me.

I reserve the right to be wrong about that....

If they are in green, then Lorelei is correct and they are naturals. It is very common for naturals to be at 180 degrees from one another. If they are in black, then they would be extra facets.

Wink

 

[scorcher31]

Thank you so much. Yes the report i posted is just one i found online randomly (not my stone), but it had the simmilar symmetric half boxes on both ends of the diagram like mine did. I dont have a scanner so I couldnt put mine online. I will have to check out if they are black or green. The certificate i have is a black and white photocopy as I haven't purchased it yet. I know it's difficult to say, but if they are facets or naturals, they probably aren't huge flaws that greatly devalue the diamond are they?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/3/2010 8:44:15 AM
Author: Wink
I am not seeing any color in the copy of the report that you posted, but those look like they are probably extra facets to me.

I reserve the right to be wrong about that....

If they are in green, then Lorelei is correct and they are naturals. It is very common for naturals to be at 180 degrees from one another. If they are in black, then they would be extra facets.

Wink

So so I!!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/3/2010 9:18:44 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/3/2010 8:44:15 AM
Author: Wink
I am not seeing any color in the copy of the report that you posted, but those look like they are probably extra facets to me.

I reserve the right to be wrong about that....

If they are in green, then Lorelei is correct and they are naturals. It is very common for naturals to be at 180 degrees from one another. If they are in black, then they would be extra facets.

Wink

So so I!!

Blast - I meant to say so do I!!!