Q on this AGS color, h Vs2

[Ss52]

Hi Pricescopers,

This James Allen 2.06 H Vs2 scores FIC 1.6 on the HCA. Even though it’s graded as an H, it looks like a J to me. I’ve read here that AGS can be soft on color grading. JA can’t/won’t send any more photos. Could it just be the lighting? I can’t imagine why they would light stones to look darker than they are. Since it’s an anniversary present, sending it back would be a bummer.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-h-color-vs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-4455440


What do you think? It’s priced well, but not if it’s a J.

Thanks y’all.

 

[CareBear]

The color should not be the main concern with this stone. This stone does not have great proportions, even though it is a AGS0. I would keep looking.

 

[MissGotRocks]

Diamonds are graded in a face down position so trying to judge whether the stone is off two color grades is difficult. It probably isn't two grades off though.

However, this stone is not very well cut so I would pass on it for that point alone.

 

[lovedogs]

The color isn't my biggest problem here. Like others, I'm concerned about cut. The image on the ags report shows issues, and this won't be a top performing stone. I'd keep looking.

 

[lovedogs]

For 20k, I'd put this one on hold asap. It's J, but will face up whiter bc of the ideal cut. Looking at the video, it's pretty darn white to my eyes, and 100000% better than the JA.

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10658#gallery-1

 

[tyty333]

This is one of those AGS000 that I would not buy. There are too many other better options. These are Super Ideal H&A stones. You can ask for a picture
of the 3 stones together to see if the "I" stands out. You can also ask if the stones are high or low colored within their color range.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4068026.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4068028.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4067968.htm

 

[Karl_K]

The color issue:

 

[flyingpig]

I mean... it is a very interesting stone.
It is probably the best cut diamond I have seen with 41.8PA.
Technically, it does not have severe light leakage. It has interesting and symmetrical contrast patterns.
To be honest, this stone will be surprising beautiful IRL. But for $20k, no thanks when there is this,
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-6331872

 

[headlight]

Regarding AGS getting soft on color, I had the same experience. I was presented with the option of a super ideal, H & A, perfect ASET than was graded as a G but I can assure you it was least an I and possibly a J as my previous was an I and side by side it was warmer than my I. Very disappointing as the stone was stellar but it was no G.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Regarding AGS getting soft on color, I had the same experience. I was presented with the option of a super ideal, H & A, perfect ASET than was graded as a G but I can assure you it was least an I and possibly a J as my previous was an I and side by side it was warmer than my I. Very disappointing as the stone was stellar but it was no G.

Any pics of the two stones side by side? Your I stone was graded by GIA?

 

[headlight]

I do not have photos... I already traded in my old diamond and I chose not to get the AGS stone because it was so warm, definitely not a D, and I wanted something much less in color than I previously had. Even the 2 GG gemologists at my jewelers could see it but they have the AGS report so I don’t think they will guide people away from it, per se, but they knew I wanted colorless and they brought in other stones after I rejected that one which killed me to do as it was stellar in cut but I didnt want a warm stone again. While I ended up with a GIA E color and couldn’t be happier about it, I would’ve gone with that exceptional AGS 0 had it been a true G.
My jeweler (who is an AGS retailer) has another AGS stone that he was scratching his head as to how they came to assigning a clarity grade that he said was blatantly no way the grade they assigned to it, that it was most definitely more included.
So I’m just frustrated with AGS on color, and with GIA on 3x! Also, have come across AGS 0s here that are not great based on ASET and or measurements. I guess there are no guarantees! So disappointing.