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OK, all this conversation about cages etc is too funny!

Lately Hunter has started showing his "will". He will squirm and cry and get so mad when I need to put on his coat, or when we take something from him he wants But I am being FIRM and Dh is trying
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He''s only 13 months so no time outs obviously, and really he has no languange so cannot communicate any other way, BUT he is sure as heck not getting what he wants when he is behaving that way! If I am diaper changing or clothing changing or whatever and he does it, I hold him and look him in the eyes and calmly and firmly say "This is not an option, you have to X". And then wait until he calms down. I don''t think he knows what the heck is going on, but hopefully he gets the point that mommy means business and is the boss. If it is over a toy we have just been distracting him.

Today DH was commenting about how much easier a one year old is compared to a newborn. Amen to that. Sleeping through the night, he is more fun and intractive, dinners together as a family. SO much easier.
 
Well, it seems like the time out cage is all the rage! Ha.
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BTW, I did get the inspiration from Tacori and her couch cage. The mental image of T''s head bobbing up and down trying to get out still cracks me out.

DD, for sure the 2nd year is a HELL of a lot more fun than the first. My experience with it has been seriously awesome. A ton of fun, everything is a discovery and a joy, and Amelia really wasn''t pushing as hard on testing the boundaries as she seems to be gearing up to be. I really have nothing bad to say about it at all...enjoy it and savor it...it''s a stage where I truly wished I could keep her this size/age forever. Fortunately, I hear that it does keep on getting better and more fun, although I admit I''m a bit nervous about the twos and threes.

I''m really actually quite sad to leave this year of her life behind!
 
I'll have to see if there's a way I can create a couch cage...
One time C was naughty so I quickly put her in the corner of a nearby bathroom--she leisurely strolled out. Obviously a rookie move.

Oh and agree 100% with TGAL on 2nd year being so fun..actually now that we are approaching 18 mo's, I think it is the perfect stage. She is just sooooooo cute, yet not that sassy and aggressive yet. I see other older kids in the playground and there's a lot of bossing and stink eyes when other kids "touch" their stuff--I am so just enjoying the innocence of this stage, yet they stilll have so much personality with the desire to explore--it allows me to see thing through her eyes a bit which is refreshing when you mostly see annoying adults in the real life grind. I had some days home when I was off from work last week and it was like hanging out with my lil' best friend! C loves sitting on the step and having me sit ("sit! sit!") on a few below so we are eye level and then she babbles to me and we share kisses.

Tacori, enjoy the time off but I get what you mean about already missing her..awww. She'll be great though!
 
Tgal--lol, that cage is great. I am going to designate a space at our new place for ''time outs''. I am still not 100% sure what way i''ll go with discipline, but i am going to just try a few things out and see.
The cage would totally work for Co, b/c he wouldn''t attempt to get out and he hates any sort of discipline from me.

and oh yes, this age is SO fun. They are amazing things to watch. I am an exhausted preggo that lacks patience, but i still looove this stage.

Puffy--wow, 12-18 mos clothing. Co is just just filling out that size now. All the 2T stuff is too big on him

I need advice:
Co still has pacis in his crib at night. I know these are not a ''prop'' and rather a comfort item like a blankie or teddy b/c he doesn''t need them in his mouth to fall asleep and i think he more just likes them around (he holds them). They never leave the crib and so it''s not a big concern for me. However, with the new baby on the way i am trying to head off any potential regression stuff with him. I''ve heard kids will often start demanding them when they see the new sibling with one. Charlie and i think it would be better to get rid of it now so that if he does want one when he sees the baby with it we can say "no, you are a big boy and you don''t need/have a paci anymore" rather than a confusing message like "you can only have yours at night but the baby can have his anytime".
So last night i asked him if he would like to give his pacis to me b/c he was big and didn''t need them anymore. He paused and said "okay". So I removed them and then charlie put him to bed and he looked for them and reportedly asked "where is the suss" and charlie said "you told mom you didn''t need it" and Co just kinda looked at himlike "oh ya, i guess i did" and laid down and went to sleep with no fuss
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So i told grama to hide them at nap today and try the same casual approach. But she was skeptical and thinks maybe he should have them for a while longer b/c he''ll be going thru a big transition. I am thinking she might give in to him at nap today, and if she does i am not going to confuse him so i need to either stick to my guns & make grama do the same, or let him be for several more months. What do you guys think????
 
LOL at all the "cage" talk. T''s timeout spot is the bottom stair. She usually stays put and if she gets up just the sight of me coming her way gets her to sit back down!
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Dreamer~Yay for Hunter!! I loved the second year as well. So much fun!

lili~I''m also surprised that J is quiet at school. T is quiet when she first meets someone new but not for long and she''s very much the talker/ring leader at her school. Please keep us posted if you feel comfortable!

Tacori~Have a great time!!

Puffy~That''s crazy that Noah is wearing 12-18 month clothes!! How long is he? We need a picture I think!!
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QT~I agree with the others that PTing can''t be forced. T has been "ready" in many areas since she was 15 months but not "ready" in that SHE wanted to be potty trained so we''re just going slowly. She pees and poops in the potty most of the time but still chooses to go in her diaper at times (especially when she''s having fun playing and doesn''t want to be bothered to go to the restroom). Good luck!

Jas12~Sounds like maybe Co is ready to give the paci up and if that''s the case yay for you!! T was not ready to give them up (and like Co she only has them in her bed and usually just holds them) so she still has them because I was not about to take away her comfort item when everything was going crazy with the new baby, ect. I would say don''t push it. If he wants them, let him have them. If he does well with the casual approach go with it!
 
Burk--does Kade have a paci? If so, do you find T wants to take his or does she just ignore it? Any issues related to the pacis?
 
Jas12~Yep, he has one. Really no issues aside from the fact that she wants to steal it to give it to her bears and dolls!
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She totally gets that they''re for babies so she tries to put it in his mouth when he''s crying and does try and use them for play but not for herself.
 
Jas, make gramma do the same, especially since Co did fine without it. Make her promise to do it just for one nap. If he can get through that nap without a meltdown, then keep on the path of no paci. If he does meltdown, hold off. I don''t think there''s any harm in giving in a comfort item and if he''s really gonna regress, I don''t think whether or not they are in the crib is going to matter - if he wants a paci, he''s smart enough to take it out of the baby''s mouth and pop it into his own.
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jas12, I agree with t-gal. If he''ll let you take them and be okay than I would go ahead and try to do it now, before the baby comes. If he freaks out then there''s in nothing wrong with waiting. I didn''t do paci''s with Jake or lily but i did with my oldest and she didn''t give that thing up until she was 3
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MrsS I thought you might find this funny. I am messing around doing some "research" on PS and came accross a thread where you said this about your upgrade timeline...

"upgraded setting at year 5...in middle of upgrading whole ring now at 7 at the rate we''re going it probably won''t be done until year 10
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That was in 2007! Your 2010 estimate was almost accurate, eh?
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Especially if you factor in the time the ring was in purgatory over at Pearlmans?

 
Date: 3/24/2010 10:34:54 PM
Author: dreamer_d
MrsS I thought you might find this funny. I am messing around doing some ''research'' on PS and came accross a thread where you said this about your upgrade timeline...


''upgraded setting at year 5...in middle of upgrading whole ring now at 7 at the rate we''re going it probably won''t be done until year 10
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That was in 2007! Your 2010 estimate was almost accurate, eh?
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Especially if you factor in the time the ring was in purgatory over at Pearlmans?



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haha dreamer, that is funny. when I said that I never thought it would have taken that long or ended up being the saga it turned into. But I can honestly say it was all worth it
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and the 10 year mark will end up being accurate b/c some type of wedding band is what I''m getting for my 10 year anniversary gift. and then I can say I''m done with my rings...of course then it will be time to move on to earrings, bracelet, watch..oh my
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Thanks for the paci advice. I forgot to ask gramma about what happened at nap yesterday, so in the car ride home i asked Co if he used his at nap time and his reply was (holding up one finger) "just one.... *something something* (i couldn''t understand).... baby" Haha. So obviously he negotiated something. So i hid them again last night and he went down with absolutely no problem. He awoke at 4am and was calling for me to rub his back (but not crying) i could tell he was trying to go back to sleep--he probably just normally grabs for a paci. I felt kinda terrible and thought i am certainly *not* going to replace paci with back rubbing (that''s sooooo much worse) so we left him. He went back down and re-awoke 20 mins later was was crying a bit so charlie went in and told him to snuggle his stuffed toys, and left the room. He went right back down. So i looks like he will get over them just fine. Yay!
 
Jas, that is awesome it is going so well! Yay!
 
Jas that is great!

What is the age when pacis should be phased out? What is the reasoning behind doing it at a certain point? Just curious. Our daycare goes cold turkey on them when the kids go to the toddler room at 18mo, so I guess that is when we wil do it too. But maybe not unless there is a reason?
 
Date: 3/25/2010 12:24:41 PM
Author: dreamer_d
Jas that is great!

What is the age when pacis should be phased out? What is the reasoning behind doing it at a certain point? Just curious. Our daycare goes cold turkey on them when the kids go to the toddler room at 18mo, so I guess that is when we wil do it too. But maybe not unless there is a reason?
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I don''t think there is an age where they should be phased out. But I''m sure if I were to look, I''d find it on the Internet somewhere.

Some people say it should be sooner of later because it''s bad for the palate/teeth. My dentist said I don''t have to worry about that early on.

Most people seem to wean because they worry about the emotional dependency, and because some people think it''s odd to see a big 3 year old running around with a paci in her mouth.

I weaned Amelia because we only used it for nighttime sleeping and as soon as we put it in her mouth, she calmed down. I was concerned that she would need it to sleep and some day I would be caught without one of those things and all hell would break loose. Plus she has a giant overbite and bucky teeth anyway (thanks to my family) and in case the teeth concern WAS true, I didn''t think she needed any help in the Hee-Haw department.

We broke the habit way before the 18 month mark. I want to say 15 months, but I''d have to go back to make sure. I might be confusing it with when we weaned her off the bottle into a sippy cup.
 
OK, I LOVE my nanny. Just went out to get a snack and saw that she and Amelia were playing a game. A SLEEP game. The nanny says good night and Amelia gets her stuffed animal, lays down, pulls the blanket over and closes her eyes and pretends to sleep for a few minutes. Then the nanny says good morning and the "day" gets under way.

I LIKE this game. I like the minutes of stillness and silence. Good job, Ms. Nanny!
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Tgal--that rocks, totally going to play the "sleep game"
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DD--i don''t think there is a "rule". Baby Whisperer promotes them for newborns but not beyond 6 mos (b/c they become props and bad for the mouth) so around that mark we limited them to the crib only for naps and night. I think nixing them early helps kids learn how to deal with emotions instead of plugging them into a paci when they get anxious/grumpy/sleepy/antsy during the day. But that''s just me.
I didn''t want Co to have his at night for so long, but he wasn''t even sucking on them so i let it go (not really different from a blankie or stuffed toy as they are comfort items and those are apparently good for toddlers). But with the new baby on the way, i just would rather keep it simple and equate Paci with babies. He has his elmo and stuffed elephant to keep him company now
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Fingers crossed the transition continues to go so easily!!!
 
Date: 3/25/2010 1:50:02 PM
Author: TravelingGal
OK, I LOVE my nanny. Just went out to get a snack and saw that she and Amelia were playing a game. A SLEEP game. The nanny says good night and Amelia gets her stuffed animal, lays down, pulls the blanket over and closes her eyes and pretends to sleep for a few minutes. Then the nanny says good morning and the ''day'' gets under way.
I LIKE this game. I like the minutes of stillness and silence. Good job, Ms. Nanny!
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That''s great!
J''s moment of silence and stillness only lasted for a few seconds and she makes it up w/ extra burst of energy.
Glad to hear that this new nanny is working out so well w/ you and A.
Did you ever heard back from the previous nanny?
 
Date: 3/25/2010 2:43:28 PM
Author: lili

Date: 3/25/2010 1:50:02 PM
Author: TravelingGal
OK, I LOVE my nanny. Just went out to get a snack and saw that she and Amelia were playing a game. A SLEEP game. The nanny says good night and Amelia gets her stuffed animal, lays down, pulls the blanket over and closes her eyes and pretends to sleep for a few minutes. Then the nanny says good morning and the ''day'' gets under way.
I LIKE this game. I like the minutes of stillness and silence. Good job, Ms. Nanny!
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That''s great!
J''s moment of silence and stillness only lasted for a few seconds and she makes it up w/ extra burst of energy.
Glad to hear that this new nanny is working out so well w/ you and A.
Did you ever heard back from the previous nanny?
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No, so strange!

And Jas, we limited the paci for sleeptime early very early on as well, but kept it for sleeping for quite some time.
 
dreamer, yay for Hunter walking! Now the fun begins!

TGal, your time out cage is tiny but seems effective! Love the sleep game! Glad things are working out with the new nanny. So strange about your old nanny!

puffy, can''t wait to see all your new goodies! sounds fabulous! Can''t believe Noah is wearing some 12-18. D is mostly wearing 12-18 now. Have fun in Vegas!

lili, I hope things go well. If it''s not too personal, keep us updated.

Jas12, yay for Co! That''s awesome!


At what age did you start time outs? I haven''t given D one yet.

Can''t believe lots of the toddlers are going to be TWO soon! D is 18 months TOMORROW! 6 months ago, he turned one. In about 6 months, we''ll have another baby!
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Crazy!

There''s a good Melissa & Doug sale going on at B&N right now. 45% off. Check out the awesome toy thread.
 
Jas -- I have no advice but it sounds like it''s going pretty well. Keep us posted!
TGal -- I have no words for the cage, but I think
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says it all. I think I love your nanny, too. We play that game here. It''s my favorite!
Snlee -- we started time outs a few weeks ago (18 months) -- it''s actually worked like a charm. Because we were consistent (1 warning, then follow through, no more than 90 seconds in the time out area), the warning now is usually all we need.

So, the boys tag-teamed me and tipped over their dresser (opening the bottom drawer and climbing in) while I had the nerve to go to the bathroom for 2 seconds. Somehow it landed ON Logan, but not a scratch on him. I swear I aged about 10 years hearing that noise, running to them, and trying to lift that thing off of him. Jackson somehow managed to move before it tipped over. Logan just walked away. I was
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We are now currently safety-locking the drawer. I swear they find new ways to give me heart attacks. I am half-tempted to never go to the bathroom again while they are awake!
 
Date: 3/25/2010 4:28:00 PM
Author: jas
Jas -- I have no advice but it sounds like it''s going pretty well. Keep us posted!
TGal -- I have no words for the cage, but I think
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says it all. I think I love your nanny, too. We play that game here. It''s my favorite!
Snlee -- we started time outs a few weeks ago (18 months) -- it''s actually worked like a charm. Because we were consistent (1 warning, then follow through, no more than 90 seconds in the time out area), the warning now is usually all we need.

So, the boys tag-teamed me and tipped over their dresser (opening the bottom drawer and climbing in) while I had the nerve to go to the bathroom for 2 seconds. Somehow it landed ON Logan, but not a scratch on him. I swear I aged about 10 years hearing that noise, running to them, and trying to lift that thing off of him. Jackson somehow managed to move before it tipped over. Logan just walked away. I was
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We are now currently safety-locking the drawer. I swear they find new ways to give me heart attacks. I am half-tempted to never go to the bathroom again while they are awake!
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Apparently babies die from that every year!
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You can get an L bracket and secure the dresser to the wall, it is what we are doing.
 
snlee, fairly recently, but I honestly can''t remember when. She''s nearly 2, so I''d say probably some time around Christmas? I can''t remember when I built the cage! I went back and looked at some videos and pics of the room and it wasn''t up on Christmas day, but was up in later Feb, so somewhere between 21-22 months is when we started. Like Jackie said, she gets one warning for defying me, but hitting and throwing are automatic. No warnings because she knows what the deal is on those now.

Wow, Jackie, that is heart poundingly scary! Gack! I am glad they are OK.
 
Date: 3/25/2010 4:57:17 PM
Author: dreamer_d

Date: 3/25/2010 4:28:00 PM
Author: jas
Jas -- I have no advice but it sounds like it''s going pretty well. Keep us posted!
TGal -- I have no words for the cage, but I think
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says it all. I think I love your nanny, too. We play that game here. It''s my favorite!
Snlee -- we started time outs a few weeks ago (18 months) -- it''s actually worked like a charm. Because we were consistent (1 warning, then follow through, no more than 90 seconds in the time out area), the warning now is usually all we need.

So, the boys tag-teamed me and tipped over their dresser (opening the bottom drawer and climbing in) while I had the nerve to go to the bathroom for 2 seconds. Somehow it landed ON Logan, but not a scratch on him. I swear I aged about 10 years hearing that noise, running to them, and trying to lift that thing off of him. Jackson somehow managed to move before it tipped over. Logan just walked away. I was
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We are now currently safety-locking the drawer. I swear they find new ways to give me heart attacks. I am half-tempted to never go to the bathroom again while they are awake!
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Apparently babies die from that every year!
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You can get an L bracket and secure the dresser to the wall, it is what we are doing.
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Oh jeeeez. Now I''m having another heart attack. DH actually suggested the L bracket when he got home and is putting it up today. I really feel like a heel. I''d never heard of this before.
 
Scary Jas!! Glad they''re both okay!!

Snlee~I started around 18 months....really just to lay the groundwork. She rarely needed them at that age anyway but I only did a minute I think.

Tgal~I like the way your nanny works!!

Jas12~Yay for paci free success. I hope it''s that easy for us when the time comes but we''re still going pretty strong (doesn''t help she''s been sick either!)

**Warning**If you are still contemplating a second child, do not read beyond this point:

Last night was pure misery!!! We just started K in his crib a couple nights ago and he was doing okay but last night not so much. His reflux was pretty bad and he was basically up and needed to be soothed every 2 hours. Pretty horrible, but doable. But add to that DH was OOT for work and got in at midnight so T gets up at 2am screaming (still not 100% from the strep) and I am feeding K. DH goes in with T and in the 20 minutes it takes me to feed K tries to leave the room at least 3 times for T to go back to sleep. She was not having it soooooo he decides he''s too tired to deal with it and she can sleep with us. From 2:30am-4am guess who was up with T in our bed?!?!? Yep, that would be me. At 4:20 K gets up (of course because it''s been 2 hours) and I decide it''s best to just turn the monitor off so he doesn''t wake K and I go into his room and get him back to sleep and end up sleeping on his floor because I don''t want to go back to our bed and turn the monitor back on......ugh. I could have killed DH. Hopefully tonight goes better. K is going at least 4-5 hours between feedings which is good it''s just that when he doesn''t feel well he just wakes more often than that. Hopefully tonight will be better.
 
Hi all! Hope you don''t mind if I pop over with a question...have any of you found any stores that will give money for good condition 2nd hand baby clothes? I have a lot I''d like to get rid of. Have you guys had any luck?
 
Jas -
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! I''ll have to look into brackets too...

Sabine - I foudn a children''s consignment store here and have taken in some of his better things, and gotten a pretty decent return. I just haven''t found too many items to spend the credit on! I have bought a few toys and books there though. You should have similar places in your area. They pay more for items in the right season, and the place I go to gives you about 40% of what they sell it for.

DD - I forgot to mention the only difference I''ve noticed between crawling and walking baby is the tendancy to carry things with them. Kyle ALWAYS has random items in his hands when he wanders around the house. Last night I found my socks in the tub and DH''s comb in the pantry.

Jas12 - sounds like paci elimination is going good!

Burk - I''m sorry! That sounds horrible! And makes me more sure I only want 1 kid
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I survived a bought of stomach flu yesterday, so not fun
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. And while I was stuck at home I went ahead and took Kyle to the pedi (or rather DH drove us since I was still a bit out of it), and turns out he was just starting an ear and sinus infection. He now loves his bubble gum antibiotic. And Kyle is on to word #4, "Kitty". We have three cats
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burk YIKES!!! so sorry you had a rough night!! hoping tonight is much better! hope T feels better soon too. how often do you nurse K during the day? i only ask cause i''m not sure if i should let noah go more than 3 hours without nursing. i know the kid isn''t starving since he''s got the rolls to prove it. in a 24 hour period, i nurse him 4 times max, sometimes 3 times.
 
Sabine~We have a couple local consignment shops.

Mgal~I made a warning so you wouldn''t read it!
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Puffy~Thanks. K nurses pretty much every 3 hours like clockwork during the day. Sometimes 2 hours. I guess it makes sense you only nurse 3-4 times since Noah sleeps 12 hours. I probably wouldn''t let him go more than 3 hours since he goes so long at night. Lucky you...I would give anything right now to only nurse 3-4 times a day because hopefully my milk would regulate a bit better (my sob story about that is in the newborn thread
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burk sorry about BFing. it took awhile for my milk to regulate due to no night time feedings. i was pumping in the middle of the night a few times it hurt so bad. yes, it hurt THAT bad that i woke up to pump and clean after when i clearly did not have to. i hope it gets better soon as we all know it is no fun at all. hang in there mama!! i figured that i shouldn''t let the kid go too long, but i just wonder cause he is definitely gaining like crazy.
oh...when i work out, i wear a regular bra AND 2 sports bras....it''s crazy!!! how is the working out going?
i hope you have a good night!!

jas12 sounds like the paci weaning is going well!

tgal awww, what a cute game!! when N is sleeping, sometimes B will pretend to sleep, then he''ll pop up and tell me to take a picture of the 2 of them sleeping. crazy kid.

snlee hoe are you doing? hope you and D are doing well.

jas oh my...thank goodness they are ok!! poor kids and poor you!

mg hope you and kyle are ok.
 
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