Possible diamond??

[leasj1]

Hello,

Just new to the forum and looking for some help to find a engagement diamond if possible please. What do you think of these stats?

Stone : Emerald

Carat weight: 0.65

Cut: Very Good

Colour: F

Clarity: IF
Symmetry: Very good

Polish: Very good

Girdle: Thin to medium

Culet: Small

Fluorescence: None

Measurements: 6.71 x 4.11 x 2.64 mm

Length/width ratio: 1.63

Price per carat: £1,794

Depth %: 64.2%

Table %: 57%

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

John

 

[leasj1]

Or this is another one that takes my fancy

Stone : Emerald

Carat weight: 0.74

Cut: Very Good

Colour: G

Clarity: VVS2

Price per carat: £1,815

Depth %: 62.2%

Table %: 64%

Symmetry: Very good

Polish: Excellent

Girdle: Medium to slightly thick

Culet: None

Fluorescence: None

Measurements: 6.20 x 4.52 x 2.81 mm

Length/width ratio: 1.37


Any thoughts?

 

[honey22]

I know nothing about emerald cuts, besides the fact that you can''t really judge them by the numbers, you would need to post pics to get a better response.

Just wondering about the level of clarity you are looking at. In my opinion IF is a total waste of money, and even VVS range is pushing it. Why pay for something you can''t see? VS1 will be totally eyeclean and so are the majority of VS2 stones, so you can save lots of money by dropping down to this clarity level and not noticing anything. IF has a huge premium associated with it, and so does VVS albeit to a lesser extent. I would rather see that $$$ going into a bigger diamond !

 

[leasj1]

Thanks for your response, thats the sort of help im looking for. With not having very much expeerience in diamonds the help is appreciated. Im wanting to get the best diamond possible without compromising on the other things as much and also sticking to within a budget...not asking for much, ha.

I have emailed the company asking for crown heights and idealscope pictures. We will see what i get back.

 

[honey22]

Date: 6/23/2008 4:28:50 AM
Author: leasj1
Thanks for your response, thats the sort of help im looking for. With not having very much expeerience in diamonds the help is appreciated. Im wanting to get the best diamond possible without compromising on the other things as much and also sticking to within a budget...not asking for much, ha.

Not at all - that's what we are all after. The best quality in the size we want, without blowing the budget! It can be done.

If you hang around, someone else will chime in and suggest somewhere to purchase an emerald cut. You really need to have an experience eye at a trusted vendor select the perfect stone for you, it's not easily like good old RBs! It would probably be a case of contacting the vendor and giving them your budget, and 'wish list' in terms of size, colour, clarity etc.

Good luck!!

I just remembered!!! Leon Mege has a three stone emerald cut ring on sale at the moment for 11K, apparently a huge steal for a gorgeous piece of art!! Yummy, I will try and find the link!!!

Here you go - stunning stunning stunning!!!

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=454&mode=search

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/23/2008 4:28:50 AM
Author: leasj1
Thanks for your response, thats the sort of help im looking for. With not having very much expeerience in diamonds the help is appreciated. Im wanting to get the best diamond possible without compromising on the other things as much and also sticking to within a budget...not asking for much, ha.

I have emailed the company asking for crown heights and idealscope pictures. We will see what i get back.

I would ask for photographs and an ASET picture, as ASET is better for fancy shapes, but IS is better than nothing. Here is ASET info...

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/why-we-prefer-aset-to-ideal-scope-with-fancy-shapes.73949/

Also VS clarity can still be eyeclean in an EC, which would broaden the options. If you don't get any joy with the info requested, check out -

www.goodoldgold.com or www.engagementringsdirect.com as these guys have a good rep with EC's.

 

[Indira-London]

Unlike round brilliant where when well-cut each diamond is the same round shape, fancy cut diamonds of the same carat weight vary enormously in their outlook as some can be longer/ shorter etc Hence in my opinion, where possible, I would recommend seeing emerald cut diamond that you are considering in person. The emerald cut gets its name from the green emerald gem as its a style of cut that flatters colour and clarity rather than sparkle. The large facets and "see through" nature of emerald cut diamonds means that they require usually higher colour and clarity than brilliant cut shapes to avoid seeing body colour or inclusions with the naked eye.
Emerald cut diamonds are less available than the more popular round brilliant cut diamonds so that at any one time, there will not be as many fine cut emerald cut diamonds available to choose from. Whilst availability varies, in general at any one time 80-85% of all diamonds on the market are roudn brilliant whereas only 1-2% are emerald cut.

 

[leasj1]

Thanks for the advice. I have changed my "wish list" parameters a good bit now and had a good read up on the tutorial for advice. Im just searching through websites and sending emails asking for crown sizes and pictures on diamonds that look to good.

Any more websites that people would recomend for emerald cuts would be great.

Keep the useful info coming as well as im ever so greatful.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/23/2008 6:57:21 AM
Author: leasj1
Thanks for the advice. I have changed my 'wish list' parameters a good bit now and had a good read up on the tutorial for advice. Im just searching through websites and sending emails asking for crown sizes and pictures on diamonds that look to good.

Any more websites that people would recomend for emerald cuts would be great.

Keep the useful info coming as well as im ever so greatful.

Don't get too reliant on crown heights, some have said that the higher the crown height, the more fiery and sparkly the diamond - but it isnt' as simple as that unfortunately, according to some of the experts here. CH can be good to know, but you need to evaluate the diamond as a whole, how well all the proportions work together, this is best done by seeing photographs and ASET.

Really the best way to proceed, is to work with a vendor you like, who has in house diamonds, and can advise you on them. One who can also provide you with photographs and ASET if available, but at least you want a photo of the diamond. That way you aren't buying blind, as you can be by using the numbers only. As Indira says, EC's can vary tremendously, and also small variations in proportion can make a big difference in how an EC can look, so photos are really essential.

 

[leasj1]

When searching on websites for a diamond and it lists the cut as N\A. Is it best to stay clear of these or use the emerald guide to match in the tables,crown height,girdle thickness,depth,polish and rectangular range to ensure its a good cut?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/23/2008 12:44:02 PM
Author: leasj1
When searching on websites for a diamond and it lists the cut as NA. Is it best to stay clear of these or use the emerald guide to match in the tables,crown height,girdle thickness,depth,polish and rectangular range to ensure its a good cut?

It is best to keep an open mind, if there isn't any info available on an EC then it is probably best to pass. But use any suggested numbers as a guide only, as EC's cannot be properly evaluated by them for appearance and performance, and there is no set formula for depth, table, crown height etc which will guarantee you a well cut stone, unfortunately it isn't that simple. I would really recommend you use a vendor such as Good old Gold or Engagement Rings Direct who are experts and have in house diamonds, that way it takes a lot of the stress out of finding a lovely diamond, let their expertise work for you. Otherwise it is a guessing game going by the numbers and without pictures of the diamond. In fact, any of the PS vendors who have in house diamonds could be of assistance to you.

 

[leasj1]

Lorelei,

Thanks ever so much for taking the time helping me out. Im being pernickety but i just want to get the best diamond for my money. I feel its worth it in the end if you do abit research and spending time then once you get it, it is worth the effort. I have been reading alot of old posts today and your name and Chrono's came up alot and it has helped me a great deal. Ill contiinue looking and ill see what comes up.

Regards,

John