Pls help to verify my diamond

[Gemzy14]

Can anyone help me how to verify a diamond online
Serial
OCTILLION Z0014498

Thanks in advance

 

[kenny]

What's the name of the vendor you bought it at?
Is there a grading report from a gem lab?
If so, which lab, and what is the report number?

 

[Gemzy14]

What's the name of the vendor you bought it at?
Is there a grading report from a gem lab?
If so, which lab, and what is the report number?

Yes i have .But i misplaced and now im worried because somebody wants to buy it

 

[Rockcollector]

Octillion is an 8 sided diamond that was sold by Zales in the late 90s-early 2000s.

 

[Johnbt]

I did a google search for octillion cut diamonds.

Quite a few places sell them, but most of the search resutls are Zales. The lab reports I see are IGI, so I tried your serial number in the report search and got nothing.

 

[Gemzy14]

I did a google search for octillion cut diamonds.

Quite a few places sell them, but most of the search resutls are Zales. The lab reports I see are IGI, so I tried your serial number in the report search and got nothing.

I hope there are other sites that can help me to get some details

 

[sledge]

Hi, welcome to the forum!

I would like to help you further but you have given us very limited information and not really defined what you need verified.

A few concerns:

1. Octillion seems to be primarily IGI USA graded, which is not a good thing. They are notoriously soft on their grading. So I have little faith if a stone is graded as a G VS2 that it is really that. This matters because pricing of stones is based on lab reports. If the stone is actually an I SI1 then you are overpaying for what you think is better color and clarity.

2. If this stone is indeed being distributed by Zales I'd be very careful. Much of their stuff is lower quality that is then advertised and sold as much better than it really is. Using a tactic such as I have someone else interested in the stone seems right up their alley to help close a sale.

3. Having scratched the surface about octillion diamonds I see many are in the 70%+ depth. A normal modern round ideal will be around 60-62%. Such an abnormal depth does two things:

a) It pushes weight down in the vertical plane so a 1 carat octillion would look smaller in diameter than an ideal cut 1ct MRB stone.

b) Depth changes angles and proportions which affect how light enters, bounces and leaves the stone. That process of light bouncing around can affect the performance (fire, brilliance & scintillation) of the stone in considerable ways.

My final thoughts are I'd be very cautious of this stone and deal as a whole. My own life experiences have taught me that I simply don't do deals I don't understand, feel pressured to do or have any doubts about the person, company or product that is in question. This has served me well not only for diamonds, but all things in life.

Good luck on your journey. I hope you post some additional info so we can better help you.

 

[Johnbt]

I think I'd call Zales home office or IGI and ask if they can help.

 

[Johnbt]

Now I see there's one for sale on ebay with an EGL-USA report.

 

[mission1]

@sledge - in your post you're noting caution around buying the diamond, but I think Gemzy14 owns the diamond already - they've lost the paperwork and are hoping to be able to verify it online, as they have a potential buyer.

 

[Bron357]

If you’ve lost the original certificate I would send it to GIA and get a new report done. A GIA report is better regarded as well.

 

[Gemzy14]

@sledge - in your post you're noting caution around buying the diamond, but I think Gemzy14 owns the diamond already - they've lost the paperwork and are hoping to be able to verify it online, as they have a potential buyer.

Yes i have the diamond. But lost paperwork.

 

[Gemzy14]

 

[Gemzy14]

If you’ve lost the original certificate I would send it to GIA and get a new report done. A GIA report is better regarded as well.

Pls help me thanks

 

[PreRaphaelite]

Just send it to GIA. Problem solved.

 

[sledge]

Yikes, good catch @mission1. Sorry to cause confusion @Gemzy14, as yes, I did misread the post .

A quick and easy way would be inspect the girdle for a GIA/IGI/EGL inscription number. Then run a report check using the number on each site.

At the least you will need a 10x loupe, but that can still be difficult to read. You may require a 20x loupe or higher power to read the number. Alternatively, a local jeweler could use their high powered scopes to get it. You may need to pay a small fee to use their scope.

 

[Gemzy14]

Yikes, good catch @mission1. Sorry to cause confusion @Gemzy14, as yes, I did misread the post .

A quick and easy way would be inspect the girdle for a GIA/IGI/EGL inscription number. Then run a report check using the number on each site.

At the least you will need a 10x loupe, but that can still be difficult to read. You may require a 20x loupe or higher power to read the number. Alternatively, a local jeweler could use their high powered scopes to get it. You may need to pay a small fee to use their scope.

Yes i already did. I got this
OCTILLION Z0014498

 

[denverappraiser]

You didn’t tell us much about this stone and the other details you are expecting but if your plan is to retail it yourself, a report from GIA will almost certainly be helpful. Starting with an independent appraisal will almost certainly be useful in understanding what you have and what you can expect. Direct retail may or may not be the best path for your situation. Do make sure the appraiser understands the question being asked. This is not an insurance appraisal you’re asking for.

I second the suggestion of calling Zales to see what they can tell you about that girdle inscription. I don't think it's a line they're currently selling but they did a lot of them. You may have to go up the chain a bit. Few salepeople are prepared to deal with this sort of question.