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katey168

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hi,

I have been searching for a loose diamond for months and I narrowed it down to 3.
I just discovered the HCA score system, is it better to have a score of 1.3 or 1.6?
For around the same price, would you purchase the H-VS2 with HCA score of 1.6 OR G-Vs1 with HCA score of .7 OR I-VSS2 with HCS score of 1.3? The only thing I don't like too much is that the G colored stone has a strong fluorscence blue.

Which one is the best diamond, especially if you like a higher colored diamond and clarity but not a strong fluorscence color??

I-VSS2
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/search?metal=14K-White-Gold#diamond=R142-870265683

H-Vs2
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamo...20&wire_price_min=7350#diamond=R134-79Z48Z384

G-VS1
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamo...20&wire_price_min=7350#diamond=R132-64735Z764
 
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I VVS2 is marked "Unavailable". Did you put it on hold/purchase it?
 
yes it's on hold, are you able to view it? These other 2 popped up today, and i do want a higher color stone but if it's more money or the I comes out better in the end or maybe the H or G is better, i can switch it.
 
The G VS1 seems a bit cloudy. That may be from the SBF. Check with the vendor to get more info pertaining to the Fluor.
The H VS2 is a lovely stone. It has a cluster of inclusion, but they seem clear; I never saw them in the image of the stone.
My fav. of the 3 is the I VVS2, but I'm not sure why it's "unavailable"...
 
hi Matthews1127,

how can you tell it's a bit cloudy?? on the GIA report it has strong fluorscence could that be why it's cloudy??

so do you think I should discard the G stone?? Can you tell a difference in color from the I to the H and G?

Can you explain why you picked the I, vsse2?

I input them all into the holloway cut advisor and not sure if it's better to have 1.3 or 1.6? Trying to find out more information regarding the points
 
SBF can affect the diamond, sometimes. I believe the cloudy appearance of the G VS1 may be caused by the SBF. Reaching out to the vendor to inquire may help you get answers pertaining to that.
G, H , and I colored stones all fall within the "Nearly Colorless" range. Face up, it's difficult to tell the difference. The I VVS2 stone is the most clear, and faces up (to me) the whitest. Perhaps, it's because of Faint Fluor. In lower colored stones, Fuor. can actually help a stone face up white. The clarity of the I VVS2, along with the EX EX EX Cut should make her an outstanding performer. If you have reservations, ask the vendor for ASET & IS reports on that stone.
As for the HCA scale, it's used as a tool of reference for exclusion. It's my understanding you want a stone that falls between 1-2 HCA. All factors must be weighed, when selecting a diamond, esp, when you don't physically have the diamond to look at it, and see it in action in different lighting environments. Do you know if this vendor will allow you to see it in person, prior to purchase? Do you know if they have a return policy, if you purchase this stone, and are not satisfied?
These are all things to ask before you put out money for a rock you have never seen up close & personal...
 
thank you, I will ask for the report and the ASET and IS report,, but what AM i supposed to understand or what to look for from the reports??
I am getting it from enchanted diamonds and they have a 30 days policy, they aren't located in California .

so it doesn't matter if i get an I, or H or G colored stone, they will all look similar?
and best to go with the I colored stone? I thought there might be a difference in the whiteness between an I and G or H color or it's so minimal you can't see the difference?

yes, I read about the HCA it's between 1-2, but wanted if it's best to pick a one with a lower 1.3 or 1.6 , i am not sure but the G received .7.. that doesn't make sense when the CA/PA is very close to the other 2 stones
 
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katey168 said:
thank you, I will ask for the report and the ASET and IS report
I am getting it from enchanted diamonds and they have a 30 days policy.

so it doesn't matter if i get an I, or H or G colored stone, they will all look similar?
and best to go with the I colored stone? I thought there might be a difference in the whiteness between an I and G or H color or it's so minimal you can't see the difference?

yes, I read about the HCA it's between 1-2, but wanted if it's best to pick a one with a lower 1.3 or 1.6 , i am not sure but the G received .7.. that doesn't make sense when the CA/PA is very close to the other 2 stones
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It's quite the journey finding the "right" diamond. Everyone has their preferences, and some weigh different characteristics of diamonds higher on their list than others.
I have gone back several times to re-examine your 3 diamonds. Of the 3, G VS1 is showing more yellow to me, but it may be my eyes playing games. All 3 stones are beautiful, but if I were going to narrow my choice from these 3, I'd investigate the I VVS2. H VS2 is more included, in spite of the fact that it's slight. Inclusions are inclusions, and may affect performance. Without being able to see for myself, up close & personal, I'd hesitate.
Once you get more visual aid for I VVS2, I believe your selection will become more clear. If you are still not satisfied, I will do my best to help you find something else....
 
thank you, i asked for the report,
just not sure how you were able to see that the G has more yellow and the H which I do see the inclusions, but i thought ok it's higher color, maybe i'll consider it.
But the I is Vss2, so it's close to internal flawless..

since you examined it closely, can you tell the difference in color from the I to the H or G??

I would love to have an excellent cut, high color , vs2 and about and would like to be around 1.4 to 1.5 and hopefully stay within the budget of 8500
 
The I faces up most white to me, but H & I are very close. I don't know why G looked darker to me...it may be my eyes....or the SBF throwing me off.
Knowing your preferences, I'll see if I find anything that may fall into contention!!! :mrgreen2:
 
IMO, you can not distinguish between slight color differences on a computer (different photog set ups). "I" is where most people start to see a
little tint (especially from the side). I personally would only go with the "I" if you are gaining a lot of size but you are not really gaining that much IMO*
but YMMV. I personally would stick with the G or H. Small changes in crown/pavilion angle combinations will affect the HCA. Can you see if you can
get an Idealscope or an aset image on the I and G? Ask. Faint fluro should have no effect on the stone. You will need to ask ED if any Fluro is affecting the stones in a negative way.
 
HCA is an exclusion tool. You exclude anything over 2.0. Under 2.0, they are kept in the running based on the other facts (4Cs, budget)...most important being the actual faceting pattern. There is no difference between a 1.3 and 1.8. Becuase, it only is used to exclude over 2.0.

Unless you are wedded to this vendor, also look at JamesAllen, Whiteflash, BrianGavin, B2C, and BlueNile. I was not sure of your budget, as they ED are all unavailable, but I'm guessing around $8600 and trying to get over 1 carat? :confused:
 
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yes lol.. i had looked at all of ja, whitefish, BG, and there are a few BN but the proportions aren't very good


just asked for the reports, not sure what i am reading..
 
the G- stone has been updated with the reports but I am not sure what I am looking at even though I read on it and still kind of confused.

what's everyone's thoughts on the strong blue fluorescence ?
I have a local gemologist who isn't a fan of it and another one from prosumer.com
was told it's ok with J colors and lower ones??

comparing the I and G, the I seems to fit the CA/PA proportions better, so does that means the I has more fire and brilliance?? But the G is whiter??

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamo...20&wire_price_min=7350#diamond=R132-64735Z764
 
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i guess the G has a strong blue fluorescent so it's going to make it glow instead of being whiter?

would you pay for an 1.37c. I- VSS11 for $7990--Dimensions (mm):7.18×7.16×4.39
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamo...20&wire_price_min=7350#diamond=R137-72Z672638


OR-- 1.42 I, VVS2 for $8336.00 --Dimensions (mm):7.22×7.20×4.46
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamo...20&wire_price_min=7350#diamond=R142-870265683


OR G-VS1 FOR $8260?? Dimensions (mm):7.11×7.08×4.29
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamo...20&wire_price_min=7350#diamond=R132-64735Z764
 
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