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harleydee

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I have been looking at a round 2.09 carat and need to make a decision by Monday if I will purchase it or not.
I lost my engagement ring on Halloween 2015 and have been looking for a replacement stone ever since. This one is the most consistent in light performance in person in various lighting situations. It does turn slightly gray in direct sunlight, but still maintains fire and sparkle. In indirect sunlight it is beautiful, reflecting many different pastel colors.
The concerns I have are:
The crown angle is outside the super ideal range at 36 degrees, everything else fits.
I had them run a Sarin report and there is a culet of 3%, but the GIA cert says none?
The GIA says the depth is 62.2 and the Sarin says 62.1
Both Sarin and GIA dimensions plugged into HCA yeild 1.9, with fire being excellent
I looked at the stone with an idealscope and it looked excellent, however, the Sarin shows leaking light on the right and bottom sides.
The Sarin shows a black point in the center of the image of the diamond itself with the arrows. (is this the culet?)
There are clefts in the top V of the hearts, is this less than 8% and a true hearts and arrows? Or does it fail as a hearts and arrows?
Thank you for taking a look!

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An interesting stone. Don't get to see many FIC stone posted... :love:
 
Is this diamond worth $29,000?

Thank you for the feedback. Does interesting mean good? Thank you for letting me know that this is an FIC, I didn't know that existed. I am hoping to get more feedback to see if this diamond is worth the $29,000 pricetag.
 
Re: Is this diamond worth $29,000?

harleydee|1488658813|4136475 said:
Thank you for the feedback. Does interesting mean good? Thank you for letting me know that this is an FIC, I didn't know that existed. I am hoping to get more feedback to see if this diamond is worth the $29,000 pricetag.
You can compare the price with other online vendors.
 
Thank you Dancing Fire. I searched and found one with USA Certified. It has ideal proportions about the same price, but larger, a 2.26. It has a 1.6 HCA score, with only the spread rating as very good, the rest is excellent. It has a 55% table and faint fluoresence. I originally wanted a medium blue like my old one, but all the stones I've sampled have turned blue in direct sunlight if they have fluorescence. You never know until you test them out, as the vendors usually won't test this before they send them.
I am inclined to go ahead with the one I've already seen and not miss out on it, as I also have no light return images to go off of.
What do you think?
 
harleydee|1488675451|4136592 said:
Thank you Dancing Fire. I searched and found one with USA Certified. It has ideal proportions about the same price, but larger, a 2.26. It has a 1.6 HCA score, with only the spread rating as very good, the rest is excellent. It has a 55% table and faint fluoresence. I originally wanted a medium blue like my old one, but all the stones I've sampled have turned blue in direct sunlight if they have fluorescence. You never know until you test them out, as the vendors usually won't test this before they send them.
I am inclined to go ahead with the one I've already seen and not miss out on it, as I also have no light return images to go off of.
What do you think?
I think what you were seeing is the blue reflections from the sky. you shouldn't have any problem with a faint fluor stone.
here's a non fluor stone under the blue sky. Notice the deep blue ?

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Thank you for sharing your pictures. Yes I see the sky reflecting, beautiful diamond!
 
harleydee|1488598004|4136281 said:
The concerns I have are:
The crown angle is outside the super ideal range at 36 degrees, everything else fits.

this is a very well cut stone with complimentary angles. It is an FIC which usually goes with a slightly smaller table. The light return is excellent and it is geared more towards fire compared to bright white return. Compared to a 34/40.8 stone you might notice it seems a tiny bit less bright, but a bit more fiery. It will have a different personality to the traditional 'ideal' range but many people search for a well cut FIC, because they are hard to find.

I had them run a Sarin report and there is a culet of 3%, but the GIA cert says none?

The sarin states the culet is 0.3%, not 3%. 0.3% may not be too visible with x10 loup, hence the GIA grading of none. No concern.

The GIA says the depth is 62.2 and the Sarin says 62.1
minor rounding and scanning differences, common finding, no concern

Both Sarin and GIA dimensions plugged into HCA yeild 1.9, with fire being excellent
I looked at the stone with an idealscope and it looked excellent, however, the Sarin shows leaking light on the right and bottom sides.

Sarin idealscope and ASET look brilliant, the areas are not leakage, but slightly reduced light return, most likely not noticed to the naked eye. There is a strong backlight rather than black backlight, which make the slightly reduced light return much more drastic in appearance. If it was a black background ASET, you probably wouldn't have noticed those areas at all. Whiteflash for example use a black background to the ASET.

The Sarin shows a black point in the center of the image of the diamond itself with the arrows. (is this the culet?)
There are clefts in the top V of the hearts, is this less than 8% and a true hearts and arrows? Or does it fail as a hearts and arrows?

I think many would argue that this is a very well cut stone that is not quite true hearts and arrows. Will it be a noticeable difference to the naked eye? Some will swear by it, most probably won't be able to tell, but just like to know that they got the best of the best cut

The black point is just a camera black lens reflection within the table reflection. The culet is pinpoint and not really visible in these pictures. You won't be able to see it without a loup, if at all.

Thank you for taking a look!

Is it worth $29k?? it is a well specced stone and a good size and great cut. Do you have a good upgrade policy?

As a comparison, a superideal from white flash with 2 colours below would be similarly priced. http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3797679.htm

If you are not bothered about the top of the top cut, but very close to it, and think the diamonds looks beautiful, and you don't care regarding upgrading later, then this is a great diamond.
 
Thank you for the feedback and comparison information. Yes, I can upgrade the stone at any time. This is a brick and mortar jeweler in my town that has looked high and low for something to replace an original diamond that came from Shreve and Company in San Francisco. I am maxed out on what I want to spend and just wanted to make sure that this stone did not lose too many points for the imperfections that I listed. Now they will have to recreate the custom setting, and that will make it look even bigger!

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