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pearmania

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Hi Everyone,

I am planning to propose to my gf in the next few months and she has said she wants a pear diamond. A friend has been helping to me to choose but her knowledge of reading aset images is limited. Could I please, please, please have your wise opinions on these two diamonds below in terms of cut performance. I am happy with the other specifications. Also, my gf prefers a more long pear than a short stubby pear.

The jeweller I have been working with says I have to get back to her in 48 hours so please please help! Many thanks in advance!!

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Well I'm not a pear expert- I do know you want a lot of red in an ASET- but I'm not sure how to read a pear ASET.

Have you checked the diamond shape tutorial/information links at the top of the page?

Also do you have the lab report? Who graded the stone?
 
I think you uploaded the same image twice. Either that, or these two diamonds are identical twins!

liz
 
Hi Liz: thanks for reminding me! And yes I did. Have fixed that now.

Hi Amy: GIA graded both stones
 
pearmania,

I know nothing about interpreting the images, but I like the fatter shape of the second one. Just personal preference.

liz
 
Thanks Liz - that's what I think as well.

I know from reading the other posts that it is important to look at pears in person. However this isn't a viable option as we live in Aus and the jeweller is in the U.S.

Hence the ASEt images. I also have idealscope images if anyone would like to see those to give a better opinion
 
Do you have photos of the stones? Aesthetically one might be better than the other.
 
Going on shape alone- I prefer the second one. The ASET images are pretty similar.
 
Hey guys,

Diamond spec 1 (i.e. the longer proportioned one):
Size: 1.29
Colour: D
Clarity: IF
Cost: $4k more than the 2nd one

Diamond spec 2 (i.e. the more well proportioned one):
Size: 1.27
Colour: D
Clarity: VVS2 (no visible inclusions, 3 miniscule pinpricks from the GIA report)
Cost: $4k cheaper than the 1st one

Having said that, money isn't an issue. My main concern is satisfying the gf's preference for a 'shiny' diamond. Also, do you think the 1.27 has more of a bow-tie than the 1.29?


Here is a pic side by sideSBS_RichmondDinh_030612.jpg
 
is there a reason you want such high color and clarity? in the picture I think I prefer the IF but it's really a matter of personal preference on the shape. What did WF say?
 
I like the aset of the first one better but they seem to be so similar that I'm not sure that it matters.

I prefer the shape and faceting pattern of the 1.27. Their bow-ties look about the same too me. Maybe a
tad bigger on the 1.27 but it is red/pink.

One thing I dont like about the 1.29 is that it does have small "shoulders" and I dont like the faceting pattern
right above the bow-tie in the middle top of the stone. Looks like something odd is going on up there.

However, that being said, what bothers me may not bother you.

Have you asked WF to compare and contrast the stones? What was their recommendation?
 
What does WF think? In terms of Bowtie and performance?
 
Hey guys,

No reasons for the high colour and clarity, I just want to get the best I can for the budget I've allocated for this.

Victoria from WF said the bow ties are minimal and she actually prefers the 1.27. I am posting front up pics and I don't know if it is just me, but i do think I see a more visible bow tie in the 1.27 compared to the 1.29.

FYI: my gf wants this in a halo setting. And I'm led to understand what she means by shiny is sparkly or 'fire' in more proper terms.

Your thoughts?

Thanks for the comments so far!

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I like the 1.27 the best but neither of them are dogs in my book. You seem to like the 1.29?
 
Actually no. I am just confused at the moment. My dilemma lies in the following:

1.27 - like its proportions, however for some reason, I can see more of a bow tie compared to the 1.29. It is also 4k cheaper, which means I won't have to fork out more for the halo setting she wants.

1.29 - don't like its proportions as much as the 1.27, but I like the appearance of it better. It's also IF and I really want to give my gf the best I can afford.

Both diamonds have qualities I like and dislike. Hence I thought I'll let the majority of the well versed and knowledable PS'ers here help me out. I'm most likely going to go with the majority as I simply can't decide!
 
Well, the opinions that you have gotten, including the gemologist, seem to be for the 1.27. I know you would probably like
to get more opinions. You have to remember that you are looking at static pics. When you have the stone in hand where it
will be moving, catching light and throwing back light, the bow-ties will be even less noticeable.

In my opinion the stones' faceting patterns are equally "likeable" and the aset images dont show that one is a much better
performer than the other. The shapes are different though and that would probably sway my opinion to one or the other.
For somewhat similar stones the $4k price difference would make a big difference to me.

Edit - BTW...if I was going to spend the extra $4k more then I would start looking at other stones.
 
I prefer the IF stone - that is the exact shape I think looks best in a pear. As well, the chunkier facets near the tip harmonize a little better with the body than the tinier facets of the other stone. The other isn't bad, but I don't like it as much. Both ASETs look good. Pears aren't going to have as much red as round brilliants are, so maximizing red+green is the best bet, and those do that, with little leakage or obstruction.
 
Hmm between the shape and cost/ it sounds like you are leanings towards the 1.27
 
I like the fatter pear but I thought you said your gf likes skinnier pears?
But $4k is lot extra just for the shape considering you won't be able to tell the difference in clarity without a loupe. They are both gorgeous stones neither one is a wrong choice.
 
thanks guys....my friend recomended that I show these pics to my gf and get her to pick (telling her the specs are virtually the same), but I really really wanted to surprise her.

I have been staring at the pics for all of last night and have arrived at the following conclusions:

1.29 - I like the way it faces up
1.27 - I like the way it is proportioned.

Someone mentioned that for the extra $4k, I can probably do better. I know I haven't mentioned prices or anything, but the 1.27 is $14.5k and the 1.29 is $18.5k, both of which are still under my budget of $20k. I'm not sure if knowing the price helps to find a solution to my dilemma. Also, being in oz means that I need to work with a very reputable jeweller such as WF so I can have adequate return policies etc.

I don't know if continued staring is going to get me anywhere as both have qualities that I like. :sick:
 
What do you mean when you say you like how the 1.29 faces up?
 
I prefer the 1.27ct, but I like that shape (chubby) better!
 
WOW. Why are you getting such high color and clarity. Those prices are WOW.

Would you consider dropping to F VS1? I PROMISE you won't see any difference when the diamond is set. AT ALL. If you could tell the difference when they are loose I'd even be surprised, unless they were side by side and maybe not even then.

I don't really like either of them really. But for 4k the fatter one is at least a better deal.

But, I gotta tell ya, I would NOT by an IF or VVS pear. I just wouldn't pay for something I will NEVER see.
 
I agree with Gypsy about dropping down to VS1 clarity, you wouldn't notice the difference at all. The only way you would tell is from sitting and louping the diamond-and really, how often are you or your GF going to do that? I know I wouldn't be doing it often...I would just be staring at it all day drooling with my regular eyes, no loupe. Ha ha.

But if I were to pick out of the two you have listed, I would definitely pick the 1.27. I prefer the shape of it, as well as the lower price tag.
 
Gypsy said:
WOW. Why are you getting such high color and clarity. Those prices are WOW.

Would you consider dropping to F VS1? I PROMISE you won't see any difference when the diamond is set. AT ALL. If you could tell the difference when they are loose I'd even be surprised, unless they were side by side and maybe not even then.

I don't really like either of them really. But for 4k the fatter one is at least a better deal.

But, I gotta tell ya, I would NOT by an IF or VVS pear. I just wouldn't pay for something I will NEVER see.
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Another one here who would not pay for something you can't see. Of course it is totally your prerogative to spend you're money how you want, but for $20k it seems to me that you will have more variety to chose from than those two stones if you widen your specs. F/vs1 or vs2 will hopefully yield some winners.

Like you said, neither are perfect in your mind.
 
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