Please give your opinion on this stone

[ms21]

Hi!

I have recently been shown a round brilliant 1.51 ct F SI1 stone and would like your feedback strictly on clarity.

I have run the HCA numbers and know that it only returns a "good" rating, however my jeweler claims that the inclusions on this stone are at a VS level and therefore is a great value being that it was rated at an SI1.

The GIA number is 2171018357. Please let me know your feedback.

Thanks!

 

[pfunk]

Yeah that crown and pavilion combo will likely lead to leakage. It was cut the way it was to make sure to make the 1.5 c mark. If GIA calls it an SI clarity, it's likely SI clarity. Is it a dark color crystal under the table? The clarity grade will be based not only on the type and location of the inclusions, but also the size and color of them. It is a cleaner SI1 than some are, but if GIA says SI1 then thats what it is and thats what you'll pay for. Also, the feather passing trough the girdle could have contributed to the SI1 grade. What is the price?

 

[Texas Leaguer]

Yeah that crown and pavilion combo will likely lead to leakage. It was cut the way it was to make sure to make the 1.5 c mark. If GIA calls it an SI clarity, it's likely SI clarity. Is it a dark color crystal under the table? The clarity grade will be based not only on the type and location of the inclusions, but also the size and color of them. It is a cleaner SI1 than some are, but if GIA says SI1 then thats what it is and thats what you'll pay for. Also, the feather passing trough the girdle could have contributed to the SI1 grade. What is the price?

Agreed. It's good that most of the clarity features are under the crown facets. They hide better in there. Only one fairly small crystal under the table. I would expect that to be eye-clean.

 

[ms21]

Thanks for the reply!

To clarify on my last post, I haven't seen the actual stone in person yet. I have been sent a few certs and have a meeting with the jeweler to see the stones tomorrow. The F color on this one is tempting, so I wanted to post in here in advance of the meeting as I may need to make a quick decision after the meeting tomorrow. This stone in particular was priced at $13,300.

I will be comparing it against a few H VS2 stones in the 12,000-12,500 range, and have been told that all including this SI1 are eye-clean.

Assuming all are indeed eye-clean, would you see the value worth the additional price in moving from H color to F color, but dropping from VS2 to SI1? (my thought is that my girlfriend is more likely to notice the 2 level jump in color than she is to notice the 1 level downgrade in clarity)

 

[Texas Leaguer]

Thanks for the reply!

To clarify on my last post, I haven't seen the actual stone in person yet. I have been sent a few certs and have a meeting with the jeweler to see the stones tomorrow. The F color on this one is tempting, so I wanted to post in here in advance of the meeting as I may need to make a quick decision after the meeting tomorrow. This stone in particular was priced at $13,300.

I will be comparing it against a few H VS2 stones in the 12,000-12,500 range, and have been told that all including this SI1 are eye-clean.

Assuming all are indeed eye-clean, would you see the value worth the additional price in moving from H color to F color, but dropping from VS2 to SI1? (my thought is that my girlfriend is more likely to notice the 2 level jump in color than she is to notice the 1 level downgrade in clarity)

My gut tells me that in terms of clarity the F will hold up well compared to the VS2s you will look at. If that is true, I personally think the value of going into the colorless range would justify the extra bucks. But let your eyes be the judge.

 

[pfunk]

Hey ms21, sorry I didn't check back in here sooner and I hope you are able to see this before you go into your local jeweler, but I did check that F stone and found it at one of the online vendors for $11,510 after the pricescope discount. So $13,300 + tax is going to leave you spending a couple grand more at the local store. You can expect to pay more at a brick and mortar but you may be able to get them to come down some if you mention that you can get the exact same stone for 2 grand less.

There are A LOT of diamonds with better numbers in your budget online that fall into the f-g colors and VS2-SI1 clarity, so make sure you aren't talked into a diamond that isn't worth what you are paying. Unless of course you fall in love with one. Then it is worth every penny you spent regardless of what the numbers are or what anyone else thinks.

 

[Chihuahua6]

Hey ms21, sorry I didn't check back in here sooner and I hope you are able to see this before you go into your local jeweler, but I did check that F stone and found it at one of the online vendors for $11,510 after the pricescope discount. So $13,300 + tax is going to leave you spending a couple grand more at the local store. You can expect to pay more at a brick and mortar but you may be able to get them to come down some if you mention that you can get the exact same stone for 2 grand less.

There are A LOT of diamonds with better numbers in your budget online that fall into the f-g colors and VS2-SI1 clarity, so make sure you aren't talked into a diamond that isn't worth what you are paying. Unless of course you fall in love with one. Then it is worth every penny you spent regardless of what the numbers are or what anyone else thinks.

Can I ask which vendor this is that gives a Pricescope discount? I didn't see it mentioned on any of the websites.

 

[Ella]

Hey ms21, sorry I didn't check back in here sooner and I hope you are able to see this before you go into your local jeweler, but I did check that F stone and found it at one of the online vendors for $11,510 after the pricescope discount. So $13,300 + tax is going to leave you spending a couple grand more at the local store. You can expect to pay more at a brick and mortar but you may be able to get them to come down some if you mention that you can get the exact same stone for 2 grand less.

There are A LOT of diamonds with better numbers in your budget online that fall into the f-g colors and VS2-SI1 clarity, so make sure you aren't talked into a diamond that isn't worth what you are paying. Unless of course you fall in love with one. Then it is worth every penny you spent regardless of what the numbers are or what anyone else thinks.

Can I ask which vendor this is that gives a Pricescope discount? I didn't see it mentioned on any of the websites.

We don't allow Pricescope discounts to avoid any implication that we "endorse" vendors. Please be aware that any vendor that is using our name for a discount is going against our policies.

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We edit the list regularly to only include vendors who are vetted and who customers are having good experiences with, but we do not endorse any vendors nor do they receive any kickbacks from sales on PS.

But any vendor, on this list or not, should not be using our name for discount purposes.

 

[ms21]

Wow thank you for this info, are you saying its a diamond with the same exact specs, or literally the exact same stone?

If it is indeed the exact same stone, can you please give me more information as to where you located it and if I would be able to purchase from there?

I am inclined to use this jeweler as we have also discussed a custom setting for the ring, however that much of a price difference may be enough to make me reconsider.

One of the stones I will be comparing it against is an H VS2 that scored a 1.5 on the HCA scale. Would you rather have a low HCA scale with H color, or a 3-4 on the scale with an F color?

 

[pfunk]

Wow thank you for this info, are you saying its a diamond with the same exact specs, or literally the exact same stone?

If it is indeed the exact same stone, can you please give me more information as to where you located it and if I would be able to purchase from there?

I am inclined to use this jeweler as we have also discussed a custom setting for the ring, however that much of a price difference may be enough to make me reconsider.

One of the stones I will be comparing it against is an H VS2 that scored a 1.5 on the HCA scale. Would you rather have a low HCA scale with H color, or a 3-4 on the scale with an F color?

I apologize for calling it a pricescope discount. That was my own terminology. I dont know what the vendor calls it but just tell them you are from pricescope and they will help you. It was from enchanted diamonds and it was the exact same diamond. Just give them the gia report number and they can pull it up for you.

I cant answer your question about what you'd rather have. Some people put color above cut, but most here would sacrifice color for better cut. All depends what your eyes prefer, which you should know after today.

 

[ms21]

PFunk - I cannot locate the stone on Enchanted Diamonds - did you just filter to the exact specs of the stone to find it?

nektgen- That image did not come through. Can you please try to repost?

 

[pfunk]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

 

[ms21]

Ah I see it now, thank you!

I see that you are saying I can get a much better stone, do you consider a 93 rating from them to not be great?

 

[Texas Leaguer]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

Wow pfunk. You have mad skills in finding ED diamonds to recommend to posters. Even when that is not what they are asking about. Amazing!

 

[pfunk]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

Wow pfunk. You have mad skills in finding ED diamonds to recommend to posters. Even when that is not what they are asking about. Amazing!

Really TL? I didn't recommend a diamond to anyone, and I would think you would read the thread before making such a statement. If you look at what I said, I recommended he at least try to negotiate the price instead of paying $2000 more for the same stone. On top of that, I did not mention any names until the poster specifically asked what vendor. I had simply stated that an online vendor had it for much cheaper. As far as I know, other vendors may have the same stone online for cheaper, but I do not know and I would not even know how to find them. I had simply punched this GIA report into the cut score calculator because I was curious what it would score, and it happened to be for sale which is how I saw the price.

 

[Texas Leaguer]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

Wow pfunk. You have mad skills in finding ED diamonds to recommend to posters. Even when that is not what they are asking about. Amazing!

Really TL? I didn't recommend a diamond to anyone, and I would think you would read the thread before making such a statement. If you look at what I said, I recommended he at least try to negotiate the price instead of paying $2000 more for the same stone. On top of that, I did not mention any names until the poster specifically asked what vendor. I had simply stated that an online vendor had it for much cheaper. As far as I know, other vendors may have the same stone online for cheaper, but I do not know and I would not even know how to find them. I had simply punched this GIA report into the cut score calculator because I was curious what it would score, and it happened to be for sale which is how I saw the price.

Yes, really pfunk. I not only read the whole thread, but I have been participating. Maybe you did not notice as you were probably busy sleuthing out the diamond. Evidently the first sentence of the OP's first post also slipped by you.

I also noticed that the moderator had to step in above to clarify the policy regarding the pricescope discount which you have been pointing people to on the ED site. To which you responded "I apologize for calling it a pricescope discount. That was my own terminology. I dont know what the vendor calls it but just tell them you are from pricescope and they will help you."

I find that curiously at odds with the fact that you had been very specific weeks ago in another thread advising a poster about an ED diamond: "Great looking diamond. If you do go to enchanted be sure to enter the coupon code "pricescope" to get even better pricing."

 

[pfunk]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

Wow pfunk. You have mad skills in finding ED diamonds to recommend to posters. Even when that is not what they are asking about. Amazing!

Really TL? I didn't recommend a diamond to anyone, and I would think you would read the thread before making such a statement. If you look at what I said, I recommended he at least try to negotiate the price instead of paying $2000 more for the same stone. On top of that, I did not mention any names until the poster specifically asked what vendor. I had simply stated that an online vendor had it for much cheaper. As far as I know, other vendors may have the same stone online for cheaper, but I do not know and I would not even know how to find them. I had simply punched this GIA report into the cut score calculator because I was curious what it would score, and it happened to be for sale which is how I saw the price.

Yes, really pfunk. I not only read the whole thread, but I have been participating. Maybe you did not notice as you were probably busy sleuthing out the diamond. Evidently the first sentence of the OP's first post also slipped by you.

I also noticed that the moderator had to step in above to clarify the policy regarding the pricescope discount which you have been pointing people to on the ED site. To which you responded "I apologize for calling it a pricescope discount. That was my own terminology. I dont know what the vendor calls it but just tell them you are from pricescope and they will help you."

I find that curiously at odds with the fact that you had been very specific weeks ago in another thread advising a poster about an ED diamond: "Great looking diamond. If you do go to enchanted be sure to enter the coupon code "pricescope" to get even better pricing."

TL, I would love for you to explain exactly what I am doing that is bothering you. Like I said, I DO NOT know what the vendor chooses to call the pricescope discont they make available to consumers who find out about them here. I was the one who coined it the "pricescope discount", not them. You are correct in that you are able to get a discount by entering "pricescope" for a coupon code (at least at the time I posted that you were). I don't know if that is still how it works because when I log into their site it automatically applies discounted pricing because it recognizes my account. So when I search diamonds I always see the discounted price and want to make sure what I recommend makes sense with what the other consumer sees. If they don't see the discounted pricing, it won't jive with what I am telling them, which is why I tell them to ask about the discount. People point out the fact that you should ask for discounts and tell the vendor you are from pricescope all the time. Whether they call it a "pricescope discount" or whatever they choose to call it, others are free to point that out all the time. Why are you busting my back for pointing out a discount that might save a consumer some money?

As far as the posters first sentence, I did address that in my first post. I then went on to try to assist them in saving some money. I didn't know it wasn't allowed to add additional input aside from STRICTLY answering only the question asked. Are you blaming me for coming back to recommend a consumer try to get a better price on a diamond from their local brick and mortar store? Are we not allowed to elaborate if we feel we can HELP a fellow consumer out by pointing out the fact they may be overpaying by quite a bit? Is it against forum policy to mention that you are able to get a discount if you as a consumer share with the vendor that you came from pricescope? If so, please let me know because I will refrain from doing so and will be glad to report any other users doing so. If not, why are you getting on my case about trying to save this person some money?

 

[Texas Leaguer]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

Wow pfunk. You have mad skills in finding ED diamonds to recommend to posters. Even when that is not what they are asking about. Amazing!

Really TL? I didn't recommend a diamond to anyone, and I would think you would read the thread before making such a statement. If you look at what I said, I recommended he at least try to negotiate the price instead of paying $2000 more for the same stone. On top of that, I did not mention any names until the poster specifically asked what vendor. I had simply stated that an online vendor had it for much cheaper. As far as I know, other vendors may have the same stone online for cheaper, but I do not know and I would not even know how to find them. I had simply punched this GIA report into the cut score calculator because I was curious what it would score, and it happened to be for sale which is how I saw the price.

Yes, really pfunk. I not only read the whole thread, but I have been participating. Maybe you did not notice as you were probably busy sleuthing out the diamond. Evidently the first sentence of the OP's first post also slipped by you.

I also noticed that the moderator had to step in above to clarify the policy regarding the pricescope discount which you have been pointing people to on the ED site. To which you responded "I apologize for calling it a pricescope discount. That was my own terminology. I dont know what the vendor calls it but just tell them you are from pricescope and they will help you."

I find that curiously at odds with the fact that you had been very specific weeks ago in another thread advising a poster about an ED diamond: "Great looking diamond. If you do go to enchanted be sure to enter the coupon code "pricescope" to get even better pricing."

TL, I would love for you to explain exactly what I am doing that is bothering you. Like I said, I DO NOT know what the vendor chooses to call the pricescope they make available to consumers who find out about them here. I was the one who coined it the "pricescope discount", not them. You are correct in that you are able to get a discount by entering "pricescope" for a coupon code (at least at the time I posted that you were). People point out the fact that you should ask for discounts and tell the vendor you are from pricescope all the time. Whether they call it a "pricescope discount" or whatever they choose to call it, others are free to point that out all the time. Why are you busting my back for pointing out a discount that might save a consumer some money?

As far as the posters first sentence, I did address that in my first post. I then went on to try to assist them in saving some money. I didn't know it wasn't allowed to add additional input aside from STRICTLY answering only the question asked. Are you blaming me for coming back to recommend a consumer try to get a better price on a diamond from their local brick and mortar store? Are we not allowed to elaborate if we feel we can HELP a fellow consumer out by pointing out the fact they may be overpaying by quite a bit? Is it against forum policy to mention that you are able to get a discount if you as a consumer share with the vendor that you came from pricescope? If so, please let me know because I will refrain from doing so and will be glad to report any other users doing so. If not, why are you getting on my case about trying to save this person some money?

Forgive me for being curious about your resourcefulness at finding ED diamonds to recommend and your commitment to helping others find great buys. If asking you to reconcile what you have said here with other statements you have made in the past is inappropriate, I apologize. You have been devoting alot of time to this forum lately I am sure many people appreciate it.

 

[telephone89]

I'll also add that a few times when someone posts the GIA#, when you google it ED is the first site that pops up with it, generally with photos of the stone. So, I know for myself it might not be intentional to rec those stones, they just happen to pop up first.

 

[Chihuahua6]

Pfunk recommends Enchanted Diamonds very very often. Check out all of his posts. Search Enchanted Diamonds in his posts and they come up at least 15 times. Search other vendors and few come up. I have searched diamonds on Google by GIA number and ED is not the only that comes up and not always the best price either.

 

[pfunk]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

Wow pfunk. You have mad skills in finding ED diamonds to recommend to posters. Even when that is not what they are asking about. Amazing!

Really TL? I didn't recommend a diamond to anyone, and I would think you would read the thread before making such a statement. If you look at what I said, I recommended he at least try to negotiate the price instead of paying $2000 more for the same stone. On top of that, I did not mention any names until the poster specifically asked what vendor. I had simply stated that an online vendor had it for much cheaper. As far as I know, other vendors may have the same stone online for cheaper, but I do not know and I would not even know how to find them. I had simply punched this GIA report into the cut score calculator because I was curious what it would score, and it happened to be for sale which is how I saw the price.

Yes, really pfunk. I not only read the whole thread, but I have been participating. Maybe you did not notice as you were probably busy sleuthing out the diamond. Evidently the first sentence of the OP's first post also slipped by you.

I also noticed that the moderator had to step in above to clarify the policy regarding the pricescope discount which you have been pointing people to on the ED site. To which you responded "I apologize for calling it a pricescope discount. That was my own terminology. I dont know what the vendor calls it but just tell them you are from pricescope and they will help you."

I find that curiously at odds with the fact that you had been very specific weeks ago in another thread advising a poster about an ED diamond: "Great looking diamond. If you do go to enchanted be sure to enter the coupon code "pricescope" to get even better pricing."

TL, I would love for you to explain exactly what I am doing that is bothering you. Like I said, I DO NOT know what the vendor chooses to call the pricescope they make available to consumers who find out about them here. I was the one who coined it the "pricescope discount", not them. You are correct in that you are able to get a discount by entering "pricescope" for a coupon code (at least at the time I posted that you were). People point out the fact that you should ask for discounts and tell the vendor you are from pricescope all the time. Whether they call it a "pricescope discount" or whatever they choose to call it, others are free to point that out all the time. Why are you busting my back for pointing out a discount that might save a consumer some money?

As far as the posters first sentence, I did address that in my first post. I then went on to try to assist them in saving some money. I didn't know it wasn't allowed to add additional input aside from STRICTLY answering only the question asked. Are you blaming me for coming back to recommend a consumer try to get a better price on a diamond from their local brick and mortar store? Are we not allowed to elaborate if we feel we can HELP a fellow consumer out by pointing out the fact they may be overpaying by quite a bit? Is it against forum policy to mention that you are able to get a discount if you as a consumer share with the vendor that you came from pricescope? If so, please let me know because I will refrain from doing so and will be glad to report any other users doing so. If not, why are you getting on my case about trying to save this person some money?

Forgive me for being curious about your resourcefulness at finding ED diamonds to recommend and your commitment to helping others find great buys. If asking you to reconcile what you have said here with other statements you have made in the past is inappropriate, I apologize. You have been devoting alot of time to this forum lately I am sure many people appreciate it.

Asking for me to reconcile what I have said here is not inappropriate and I would be glad to answer any questions you might have about anything I have ever said here. What I find inapporopriate, or rather unprofessional, is the sarcasm added unnecessarily to your posts. You seem to have it in your mind that there is some dark reason for me to point people to Enchanted, which is not the case at all. Actually quite the opposite. I am a happy customer who recently purchased there. I then watched a thread unfold here that dragged enchanted through the mud, and found it pretty sad how quickly the regulars here (trade and consumers alike) made accusations like they did. It was a "guilty until proven innocent attitude" which is certainly not fair.

I know that bad publicity can do terrible things to a company. So, I am sharing my side of the story, which is that of a satisfied customer. After my experience, I am happy to recommend them. On top of that, I find their search to be one of the easiest to use here and I can EASILY filter the diamonds by cut score to find the ones worth recommending. Also, they have more images than any other vendor I have found yet. Since everyone here pushes the images so much, I try to recommend diamonds that have images when I can. Play with their site for awhile and you will see how easy it is to navigate and sort diamonds. Like you said, I have spent a bunch of time here recently because it interests me. I don't, however, have enough time to wade through hundreds of diamonds on each vendor's website without an easy way to sort them.

If you need me to answer any other questions about what I may have said before, or need clarifications on my motivations here, feel free to ask.

 

[pfunk]

Pfunk recommends Enchanted Diamonds very very often. Check out all of his posts. Search Enchanted Diamonds in his posts and they come up at least 15 times. Search other vendors and few come up. I have searched diamonds on Google by GIA number and ED is not the only that comes up and not always the best price either.

Yes I do. And I just explained why in my last post so feel free to read that and ask me any questions you would like to. I'm happy to recommend them. I am a customer who appreciates people who do their best to help me and I am as happy to write positive reviews for companies as I am negative reviews. Look at my first posts here. I am quite sure I likely said somewhere that I was happy with the service at James Allen. They were great as well.

 

[Texas Leaguer]

No i put the gia report number into their cut score calculator and when you get the results there is a link that says "this stone is currently for sale". If you click on that it will bring up the listing for the stone.

Wow pfunk. You have mad skills in finding ED diamonds to recommend to posters. Even when that is not what they are asking about. Amazing!

Really TL? I didn't recommend a diamond to anyone, and I would think you would read the thread before making such a statement. If you look at what I said, I recommended he at least try to negotiate the price instead of paying $2000 more for the same stone. On top of that, I did not mention any names until the poster specifically asked what vendor. I had simply stated that an online vendor had it for much cheaper. As far as I know, other vendors may have the same stone online for cheaper, but I do not know and I would not even know how to find them. I had simply punched this GIA report into the cut score calculator because I was curious what it would score, and it happened to be for sale which is how I saw the price.

Yes, really pfunk. I not only read the whole thread, but I have been participating. Maybe you did not notice as you were probably busy sleuthing out the diamond. Evidently the first sentence of the OP's first post also slipped by you.

I also noticed that the moderator had to step in above to clarify the policy regarding the pricescope discount which you have been pointing people to on the ED site. To which you responded "I apologize for calling it a pricescope discount. That was my own terminology. I dont know what the vendor calls it but just tell them you are from pricescope and they will help you."

I find that curiously at odds with the fact that you had been very specific weeks ago in another thread advising a poster about an ED diamond: "Great looking diamond. If you do go to enchanted be sure to enter the coupon code "pricescope" to get even better pricing."

TL, I would love for you to explain exactly what I am doing that is bothering you. Like I said, I DO NOT know what the vendor chooses to call the pricescope they make available to consumers who find out about them here. I was the one who coined it the "pricescope discount", not them. You are correct in that you are able to get a discount by entering "pricescope" for a coupon code (at least at the time I posted that you were). People point out the fact that you should ask for discounts and tell the vendor you are from pricescope all the time. Whether they call it a "pricescope discount" or whatever they choose to call it, others are free to point that out all the time. Why are you busting my back for pointing out a discount that might save a consumer some money?

As far as the posters first sentence, I did address that in my first post. I then went on to try to assist them in saving some money. I didn't know it wasn't allowed to add additional input aside from STRICTLY answering only the question asked. Are you blaming me for coming back to recommend a consumer try to get a better price on a diamond from their local brick and mortar store? Are we not allowed to elaborate if we feel we can HELP a fellow consumer out by pointing out the fact they may be overpaying by quite a bit? Is it against forum policy to mention that you are able to get a discount if you as a consumer share with the vendor that you came from pricescope? If so, please let me know because I will refrain from doing so and will be glad to report any other users doing so. If not, why are you getting on my case about trying to save this person some money?

Forgive me for being curious about your resourcefulness at finding ED diamonds to recommend and your commitment to helping others find great buys. If asking you to reconcile what you have said here with other statements you have made in the past is inappropriate, I apologize. You have been devoting alot of time to this forum lately I am sure many people appreciate it.

Asking for me to reconcile what I have said here is not inappropriate and I would be glad to answer any questions you might have about anything I have ever said here. What I find inapporopriate, or rather unprofessional, is the sarcasm added unnecessarily to your posts. You seem to have it in your mind that there is some dark reason for me to point people to Enchanted, which is not the case at all. Actually quite the opposite. I am a happy customer who recently purchased there. I then watched a thread unfold here that dragged enchanted through the mud, and found it pretty sad how quickly the regulars here (trade and consumers alike) made accusations like they did. It was a "guilty until proven innocent attitude" which is certainly not fair.

I know that bad publicity can do terrible things to a company. So, I am sharing my side of the story, which is that of a satisfied customer. After my experience, I am happy to recommend them. On top of that, I find their search to be one of the easiest to use here and I can EASILY filter the diamonds by cut score to find the ones worth recommending. Also, they have more images than any other vendor I have found yet. Since everyone here pushes the images so much, I try to recommend diamonds that have images when I can. Play with their site for awhile and you will see how easy it is to navigate and sort diamonds. Like you said, I have spent a bunch of time here recently because it interests me. I don't, however, have enough time to wade through hundreds of diamonds on each vendor's website without an easy way to sort them.

If you need me to answer any other questions about what I may have said before, or need clarifications on my motivations here, feel free to ask.

That's good enough for me pfunk, and you may be right that it was inappropriate for me to question you in the way I did. You are a quick study and your commentary about diamond cut quality has been astute. I do not always agree with your perspective, although many times I do. But I always find your commentary to be stimulating. I'm sincerely sorry if I questioned your motivations. I truly hope you continue to contribute here as you have alot to offer.

 

[pfunk]

TL, no harm done. I know I have said it before, but I will reiterate that I find your input here to always be geniune and helpful. I appreciated it during my search for a diamond as well as in my other threads as I continue to try to gain more and more insight here. We certainly do not always agree, which is in my opinion just fine. Differing opinions need to be shared and are always more useful for a consumer to learn from. It is like politics. I am certainly right wing, but I appreciate and understand the absolute need for opposing viewpoints. While we will certainly not always agree, I hope we can always participate in respectful debate. If I EVER say anything incorrect, I urge you and anyone else to correct me. I don't want to spread bad information to consumers, but if it is an opinion I am happy to share mine and debate it against anyone else.

OP, I apologize that your thread was taken so far of course. Please post back with what your experiences were today when viewing diamonds.

 

[ms21]

Thank you for all of your feedback as it relates to the stone I inquired about. I just returned from the meeting with the jeweler and actually was not a huge fan of the F-SI1 stone in person.

Of the three that I saw, one of the H-VS2 diamonds clearly stood out to me. As both of you seem to be very knowledgable, I would really appreciate any feedback (or deal breakers) on two diamonds before pulling the trigger.

I found both diamonds listed at ED and have included the links below just for reference and some images.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R152-FXHPXH
GIA 2186298361

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R153-1XE6HZ
GIA 1166302524

The first stone has a better HCA rating, however the second one has a better cut score on ED

Thanks again for your help.

 

[pfunk]

Thank you for all of your feedback as it relates to the stone I inquired about. I just returned from the meeting with the jeweler and actually was not a huge fan of the F-SI1 stone in person.

Of the three that I saw, one of the H-VS2 diamonds clearly stood out to me. As both of you seem to be very knowledgable, I would really appreciate any feedback (or deal breakers) on two diamonds before pulling the trigger.

I found both diamonds listed at ED and have included the links below just for reference and some images.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R152-FXHPXH
GIA 2186298361

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R153-1XE6HZ
GIA 1166302524

The first stone has a better HCA rating, however the second one has a better cut score on ED

Thanks again for your help.

Honestly I am not going to even look at the diamond listings unless you REALLY want me to. If one stood out to you, and you find the price is fair, that is the stone for you. You saw them. You know which you liked. Don't let anything outside convince you it isn't beautiful.

 

[ms21]

I appreciate you trying not to skew my perception of the stones, however it would help me a lot to have another objective opinion take a quick look and just let me know if there is anything i am not seeing. I think the price for both stones is fair so I'll leave that out of it, and am only curious about the specs in general.

 

[pfunk]

I think I'd opt for the 1.52. Both have pavilions a little on the deep side and you can see they are going to leak. Some people think that adds contrast though which may appeal to your eyes. I also like that it appears to be cut with pretty good optical symmetry. A lot of unknowns on how the other performs. Both will be eye clean. All boils down to which looked better to you. And if one jumped out, what was it that you preferred?

 

[telephone89]

The second is showing as taken, did a lurker grab it?

 

[ms21]

Thank you for the feedback!

Today I saw this 1.52 ct stone, the F-SI2 that we originally discussed, and one other H-VS2 stone. This 1.52 ct stone stood out to me undoubtedly. For lack of a better word, it had a sparkle that the other two stones did not (which could be due to the HCA cut grading). While the F colored stone was certainly brighter, it just did not seem to refract light in the same way as the 1.52 ct.

That stone along with the 1.53CT in the post are my final two. I saw the 1.53 diamond about a week ago (though a different jeweler), the same day i saw a GIA cert for the first time so obviously I would say that I have a more well trained eye at this point and may have not been looking at the right aspects of the stone.

That said, I was debating whether it was worth one last visit to each jeweler for a final peak at each diamond, or if there were any factors in the cert that would prove that one is superior. I am leaning heavily towards the 1.52 since it stood out to me even after seeing many different diamonds over the last week, on top of your opinion which also favored this diamond.

To answer the question about if the diamond was snagged - it was not, I just pulled up the ED site links for a reference point of discussion.