Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with halo.

[Robertk]

I purchased this stone http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9250/

I wanted a setting like this but with Rose gold prongs and basket:


This is what I received:


The Basket was not rose gold, the prongs are not even similar, and most of all the stone sits much higher. What would do if you were in my situation.

Thanks!

 

[Alias]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I purchased this stone http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9250/

I wanted a setting like this but with Rose gold prongs and basket:


This is what I received:


The Basket was not rose gold, the prongs are not even similar, and most of all the stone sits much higher. What would do if you were in my situation.

Thanks!

Just to clarify, GOG created the setting for you?

 

[Robertk]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

They did not. I used a very reputable jeweler locally. I want to try to keep part of the business local and thought it would be more difficult to mail the stone back and forth especially if there was any issues.

 

[Alias]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I am no expert firstly. However, as a consumer if I spent $$ on something where the result was not what I requested, I would speak to a representative of the organization and see what they can do to rectify the situation and go from there. Hopefully they would realize the mistake and be able to fix it to my satisfaction...but that's just my opinion.

 

[Dee*Jay]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

What would I do? I would TAKE THAT SUCKER BACK and start over WITH A DIFFEFRENT JEWELER. BTW, the prongs in the inspiration picture are not at all acceptable either (totally different sizes and all four sets are unevenly spaced).

 

[Hera]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

You should ask for a refund because they probably cannot re-create this setting. I'm in agreement that the prongs are not good in the inspiration picture. If you have the money, seek out victor canera or engagement rings direct ( for a more budget friendly option). While it's nice to use local jewelers for repairs and other jewelry, most do not have the skills needed for settings like that.

 

[Robertk]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I see what your saying about the prongs. Never even noticed that in the picture before.

 

[Robertk]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

Is there a good reason for them to set the stone so high? Why would they have done that?

 

[Ashleigh]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

Your local jeweler might be reputable but their bench doesn't have the ability to recreate what you want. You might want to ask to see their past creations. Those could tell you a lot about whether the rings they make is aligned with what you have in mind.

 

[Dee*Jay]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I see what your saying about the prongs. Never even noticed that in the picture before.

Another thing about the prongs in the original pic is that I can't imagine why they would have used contrasting metal instead of whatever white metal the rest of the ring is made of... ?

 

[yennyfire]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

Do you have a work order stating what you want? If so, they either need to make it right or fully refund your $$$....

 

[Dreamer_D]

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I see what your saying about the prongs. Never even noticed that in the picture before.

Another thing about the prongs in the original pic is that I can't imagine why they would have used contrasting metal instead of whatever white metal the rest of the ring is made of... ?

I think that is just the light Dee jay, the inspiration pics look like white metal to me that is reflecting bronzy colors.

 

[tyty333]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

It would have been nice if you posted a head on pic also.

I would return it and hopefully get your money back. Not all benches can do the level of work you are
looking for. You need to go to a vendor that has a proven track record that they can do the level of
Detail you want.

 

[Robertk]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha



Here you go! Thanks for everyones input. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't blowing this out of proportion.

 

[SB621]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

So this is a good example of not all jewelrs being equal.

First issue is that the GOG setting was probably custom made to fit that stone exactly. So the diamond sat down very low and the claw prongs were possible.

To me it looks like this jewelry used a stock setting that fits a diamond size range. This diamond was probably at the top of the range so it sticks up really high therefore sitting on the setting vs. in the basket. Plus the peg prongs don't do it much justice, but with it being set high claw prongs like your inspiration picture really aren't an option. Once again not all jewelers are created equal and they may not have been able to do it better. when you work with stock settings it is harder to make them fit especially with cushions.

What I would do is take it back and get a refund. Then look at jewelers who HAVE done what you are looking for. Ask to see their portfolio. Personally if GOG is what you wanted and they were in budget I would have gone with them.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

Is there a good reason for them to set the stone so high? Why would they have done that?

Hi Robert,
There's a number of ways to make a ring like yours.
One of the the simplest methods involves using commercially available cast parts- the jeweler can order one, set the diamonds, and you have a finished ring. Although the part can be fairly close not going to be custom fit. This is what SB621 is referring to.

If a ring is hand forged- or a model is made using the stone itself, the fit can be perfect- and the stone will sit inside the ring- instead of on top of it.
Remember, a hand forged ring generally cots a lot more than a ring made from cast parts- so you may have come out ahead in that regard.

Looks like the jeweler added pink gold under the stone- and for the prongs.
Did you request two tone metals be used?

As far as a refund: unless it was a prior agreement- or there was a real screw up, I'd be surprised if a seller will give a refund on a ring that was built specifically for you.
Regardless, I hope the situation works itself out the way you want it to.
I love the hand forged style- but having seen a lot of both types, if it helps any, I think the ring looks pretty good for the type of ring it is.

 

[SB621]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

And I can't quite tell from the pictures but the basket does look RG or it actually looks like they might have cupped it? It is hard to tell unless you have a picture of it from the underneath. Did you mean you wanted the halo in RG as well? Perhaps there was miscommunication on what a basket is???

 

[Robertk]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I think the basket is rose gold but it appears to be a different color from the prongs. Probably just me!

My biggest worry was how high the stone was sitting and the missing detail. They have taken the ring back and said they going to fix it.

The setting was around $4500.

What do you mean by cupped?

 

[Dee*Jay]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I think the basket is rose gold but it appears to be a different color from the prongs. Probably just me!

My biggest worry was how high the stone was sitting and the missing detail. They have taken the ring back and said they going to fix it.

The setting was around $4500.

What do you mean by cupped?

Does "fix it" mean remake it, lower the stone, or something else?

Cupped is that there is literally a little cup of metal under/around the whole stone. For instance, with a yellow stone, even if the rest of the setting was a white metal, there would be a little cup of yellow metal under/around the stone to enhance the color. Here is an example:

 

[Dee*Jay]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I see what your saying about the prongs. Never even noticed that in the picture before.

Another thing about the prongs in the original pic is that I can't imagine why they would have used contrasting metal instead of whatever white metal the rest of the ring is made of... ?

I think that is just the light Dee jay, the inspiration pics look like white metal to me that is reflecting bronzy colors.

Boy, I don't know Dreamer... It looks a bit different to me but you could very well be right!

 

[Robertk]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

They were going to lower the stone and add some of the missing detail work. I thought the cup was the basket.

I looked back in my notes and the halo should have been rose gold. I know with things like this I should have made sure it was very clear. We had talked about it both ways.. I really just don't want the stone to look like an afterthought that was added.

 

[Dee*Jay]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

Robertk, if there is a cup under the stone I would specifically ask that there be a hole (or holes) in the cup or else it's going to be a real bear getting the stone clean under there, especially if it is lowered.

ETA: here's an example. I believe this is SB21's lovely ring.

 

[Robertk]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

Thanks for the advice! Should I expect cast or forged for $4500?

 

[SB621]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

Depends on what type of melee you are using and what metal type.

Personally, and I'm being very honest here, I would not pay 4.5k for that ring you showed. I have seen much better for much lower. For 4.5k you can go with ERD who has done that setting many times over and it will be custom to fit your exact stone. You could also go to GOG since that is where the setting came from, or any other PS vendor Steven Kirsch, Victor Canera might be out of your price point but you could still ask. I wouldn't have paid more then 2k for that setting especially with how they just crammed your diamond in. I pretty much think them sending that out as it was is an insult and I wouldn't go back. If they truly cared about their work that never would have leave the bench.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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I am also doubtful that they can really fix that ring. I think the prongs and inner basket should be rose gold, but I prefer a white metal halo if using white diamonds in the halo.

I wish you had come here for advice on the setting, because honestly, few local jewelers do the kind of work we often see here from people like Steven Kirsch, Victor Canera, or ERD.

 

[SB621]

Re: Please Give Me Your Opinion - Fancy Brown-Yellow with ha

I am also doubtful that they can really fix that ring. I think the prongs and inner basket should be rose gold, but I prefer a white metal halo if using white diamonds in the halo.

I wish you had come here for advice on the setting, because honestly, few local jewelers do the kind of work we often see here from people like Steven Kirsch, Victor Canera, or ERD.

I agree on so many levels DS!

I actually like the idea of the ring with a thing rg bezel before the halo but then keeping the halo and diamonds white. Too me it looks much more classic. if you have the halo in RG I think it looks way more cocktail ring regardless if you use white diamonds or champange colored.

I'm assuming this is an ering? Stick with the body of the ring being 1 color and just do the RG prongs and thin bezel/ cup/ insert whatever you want to call it here.
Also the inspiration picture has miligrain around the halo. Your ring doesn't have any. I would have them finish it with the miligrain.