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Overkill Me With Kindness - Round Brilliant

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Jnana

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Good morning PS,

I want to find a small stone for an engagement ring, .5 ct. D color, IF / F clarity. As for the cut:

GIA XXX
AGS 000

Table: 55-56
Depth: 60.4 - 61.2
Crown Angle: 34.4 - 34.9
Pavilion Angle: 40.5 - 40.8
Girdle: 3.0 -3.5, thin - med

Any HA / branded lines would be welcome. I have used many of the online search engines.

What would the expected cost be for a stone like this? Where would you search for something like this? I am not interested in changing the above parameters only to save money but would gladly do so for other reasons. Thank you for your consideration.
 
Which stones have you found that you liked while using the search engines?

Are there any that take your fancy right now?

You can search each of the branded stone sellers' websites pretty quickly and their inventory changes fairly regularly. (You can also contact them and ask if any are coming through the pipeline in the near future.)


Is there a reason you're going for F and IF?

Personally I like colourless, so I would also like F, but others on here are proponents of going down perhaps as far as G or H in a very well cut diamond to still have a stone that looks very white in the majority of lights.

I think most on here will agree that IF is complete overkill unless it is needed for cultural reasons - VS1 will still be completely eye-clean, and VS2s should be eye-clean if their inclusions are small / scattered / not black, so you could either get a 0.5 in an eye-clean VS2 and reduce your costs (or get a more fancy setting with the money saved), or get a larger VS2 stone for the budget your are currently working to.

Are you willing/able to post your budget to help us look for stones?
 
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I have not been able to find too many stones that meet these stats. I would be willing to pay up to 5k for the right half carat. I want to obtain this in 2018 for sure but no immediate rush.
 
IF diamonds are very hard to find and pairing with D makes it even harder. So, I'm posting below some that are in the general ballpark (colorless and high clarity). But, you may want to reach out to HighPerformanceDiamonds and speak to them about a cut to order stone. That is another avenue to get exactly what you want.

.528, D, IF. https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...s/0.528-d-if-round-diamond-bkags-104097911011 {posted above by @tyty333}

Closer to 0.6
E VVS2, https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3823416.htm

Right around 0.5
D, VVS2. https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD9617
D, VVS2. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3952905.htm {posted above by tyty333}
F, VVS1. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3963086.htm
F, VVS1. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3963082.htm

Under 0.5
E, VVS2. https://www.victorcanera.com/diamonds/fxwniu-0.357-e-vvs2-ideal-hearts-arrows-round
 
Jnana said:
Good morning PS,

I want to find a small stone for an engagement ring, .5 ct. D color, IF / F clarity. As for the cut:

GIA XXX
AGS 000

Table: 55-56
Depth: 60.4 - 61.2
Crown Angle: 34.4 - 34.9
Pavilion Angle: 40.5 - 40.8
Girdle: 3.0 -3.5, thin - med

Any HA / branded lines would be welcome. I have used many of the online search engines.

What would the expected cost be for a stone like this? Where would you search for something like this? I am not interested in changing the above parameters only to save money but would gladly do so for other reasons. Thank you for your consideration.
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Not sure where you're getting your specs, but 60.4-61.2 is kind of odd for the depth of the stone. Up to 62.3% is acceptable, although I might aim for 62.0 and less. There's zero reason to set your limit at 61.2. Table of 55-56.9 is a good range. Crown angle range is ok but there are superideals sometimes at 34.2+ and pavilion angle should be 40.6-40.9. Girdle of thin to medium is common on superideal cuts.

As to clarity, I think VVS is a fine complement to D color and superideal cut, so I would absolutely consider VVS as well to give more choices. I personally would buy from Whiteflash or High Performance Diamonds because of their high diamond quality and excellent customer service!
 
haha I completely misread the IF/F as being F in colour! :lol:
 
Thank you for all of your thoughts and ideas. I have some additional questions.

If a diamond had the outlined stats, is it possible it could look bad? What characteristics would you look out for or want to add?

Where is it possible to see a stone like this in real life?

If you were creating a diamond out of thin air, what exact angles and percentages would you choose.

What is the best half ct diamond in the world? Cost?



.528, D, IF. https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...s/0.528-d-if-round-diamond-bkags-104097911011 {posted above by @tyty333}

This diamond is the best I have seen, if a little deep ;)
If you were tearing this diamond apart, what bad could be said of it (apart from size)?
 
There is absolutely nothing to pick apart about a Brian Gavin black stone.

I know you said you aren't interested in paying less money. HOWEVER, you could get an E or F VVS to VS1 and get a bigger stone for the same price.

Not sure if the D/IF is YOUR preference, or HERS, but it's something nobody will see. Here is a .721 Expert Selection from whiteflash just under $4k. Here's what it looks like compared to then .528 D/IF
Ask your woman which she would prefer.
 
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The stone is not a little deep, not sure where you're getting your expectations on depth?
 
Yeah there is nothing “deep”about the BGD stone. Depth up to 62.4 is totally acceptable. Super-ideals are usually between 60-62. Did you reserve it?
 
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