Opinions on Old Mine Cuts in this ring

[Lovesparklesparle]

Hello everyone,

I have caught the old cut bug and am considering this ring. The stones are approximately 35 points each, si-i1 clarity (the is an obvious carbon inclusion in one of the stones). Still, if I can get it for a good price...

They’re obviously not perfect, and I’m ok with that. But they don’t seem to be particularly sparkly? I don’t know a lot about mine cuts, and am wondering if these are obviously not a good choice.

Thanks for reading!

 

[ringo865]

Cute setting. The design is really pretty. You'd have to check those prongs. Two or more of the outer ones look missing on one stone and probably several will need some rehab. My jeweler charges like $20 each to retip. So factor that in.

The stones look higher color (than in many older cut stones) but hard to tell in some pics with the glare.

You said they don't sparkle. What do you mean? Did you get into different lighting environments? Old cuts were cut to maximize candlelight. Do you have profile pics (so they have a high crown)?

If nothing else, you could harvest them for earrings. How many mm are they? Do you have a loupe?

 

[Lovesparklesparle]

Yes the prongs, I was wondering if they were deliberately missing...?

I was thinking they looked nice and colourless too and considering how I could revamp them maybe in a new setting down the track.

Re: the not sparkling- I suppose I mean there doesn’t seem to be a nice, crisp contrast pattern I’ve seen with some beautiful old cut stones. Would this translate to low sparkle scintillation and light return? In the sun shots they don’t appear particularly bright. These are the pics the seller sent me when I asked for more close up detailed shots.

I will ask how many mm they are. No I don’t have a loupe unfortunately .... I am looking into buying one though.

Given that old cut diamonds are typically and acceptability much warmer, does that mean these are potentially a lot more valuable (if they are say GHI)? On a side note I just purchased on eBay an OEC that was described in the ad as D colour, but it is obviously yellow/brown and maybe around an M/N minimum. I read a Lumeradiamonds article that said:

“Due to its perceptible color tint, a K diamond is often half the price of a G diamond”

Does this hold true with old cuts similarly?


Thanks

 

[tyty333]

They look like they may have low crowns (or maybe the stones are shallow). Can you get a picture of the side view.

As far as color and higher value...I would not even take that into consideration if the cut is not there.

 

[ringo865]

Old cuts will not have the same light play and symmetrical contrast patterning as modern round brilliant stones. They may have large chunky flashes, often with color, that are slower moving than the quick, bright, splintery twinkles seen in modern stones.

As for the eBay D stone. They probably charged you for D color while it wasn't even a couple grades off. Unless you absolutely love it, you would have standing to get a refund for not as described.

This ring I wouldn't think would be more than a couple hundred dollars. And (on top of the selling price) you'll have to invest in prong repair. They aren't going to increase substantially in value, even if they are higher color, because they are not sizable stones nor do they have top clarity or cut. And no, the prongs would not deliberately be missing. Prongs secure the stone(s), so without them properly holding the stone(s), there go the stone(s).

 

[kgizo]

If they aren’t sparkly I would pass. The right old cuts are out there for you, the hunt may just take a little time.

 

[Lovesparklesparle]

Hi again!

I contacted the seller and she said no prongs are missing but 5 need retipping.

They measure approx 4.5 mm diameter each.

See above for profile shots.

I’m torn whether to try and purchase these... I’ve never reset stones before and maybe this isn’t worth the trouble... and it seems that maybe it wouldn’t significantly increase in value if I did.

So, given the limited info available, in USD how much would you pay for these? It’s an auction.

I’m torn whether to just save up for bigger and better, or to start building my collection now

 

[Lovesparklesparle]

They look like they may have low crowns (or maybe the stones are shallow). Can you get a picture of the side view.

As far as color and higher value...I would not even take that into consideration if the cut is not there.

It seems you are right, they don’t look to have steep crowns... that will mean they will be dull (?)