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limonade

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Hi everyone,

Been a while, but I''m now back in search mode.
I''m seeking opinions on the following EC. I''m hoping Karl will chime in, but everyone''s .02$ is welcome
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TD: 68.9%
PD: 56%
CH: 8.9%
TS: 72.1%

Pics to follow.

TIA,

L.
 
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Date: 4/24/2010 5:10:54 AM
Author: limonade
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Hi Lim

Karl should be along later to help you if he can. The diamond has potential but as you can see on the images, there are some dark areas running around the table, these need checking by the vendor for brightness in normal wearing/ viewing conditions. Ask if these areas are due to obstruction and if they remain dark in normal circumstances.
 
Date: 4/24/2010 5:07:32 AM
Author:limonade
Hi everyone,

Been a while, but I''m now back in search mode.
I''m seeking opinions on the following EC. I''m hoping Karl will chime in, but everyone''s .02$ is welcome
1.gif


TD: 68.9%
PD: 56%
CH: 8.9%
TS: 72.1%

Pics to follow.

TIA,

L.
Crown is too flat, not a lot of brilliance on the outside, this will look smaller than its weight, I''d say you could find better.
 
How big is it?
Anything over a 1/2ct or so that large a dark zone can be an issue.

With the huge table and flat crown it is the classic style which can be bright but not a lot of sparkle.
That isn''t a particularly good example of one being overly flat and a large dark zone.
 
Date: 4/24/2010 11:32:34 AM
Author: Karl_K
How big is it?
Anything over a 1/2ct or so that large a dark zone can be an issue.

With the huge table and flat crown it is the classic style which can be bright but not a lot of sparkle.
That isn''t a particularly good example of one being overly flat and a large dark zone.

As always, Karl is right on the money. The large dark zone is the result of the middle tier of pavilion facets being cut too close to 45 degrees causing retro-reflection from the direction of the observer''s head or the camera. These are areas which are relatively dark compared to the surrounding illumination (unless you are an extremely bright individual or have a light bulb in your nose
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). This is the equivalent of the dark bow tie in a marquise or the dark table in a nail-head diamond.

In addition to the large table and flat crown mentioned by Karl, an overall depth of 68.9 is a little deep for my taste in a modern emerald cut. It will look smaller face up than one around a preferable (IMO) 65% depth.

Too many cutters looking to maximize weight retention by cutting a deep pavilion ignore or are oblivious to the obvious peril of cutting any row of pavilion facets close to 45 degrees.

Michael D Cowing

 
Thank you everyone for your comments.

Lorelei, I was told the center was brilliant, with only a mention of a light leakage on 2 of the corners.
Karl, the size is over 2 carats, so it''s probably going to be apparent.
It looks like the search will go on.
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Any recommended source for EC around 2ct? I think GOG doesn''t display many in that range.

Thanks,

L.
 
Your best bet is to call a vendor and get them working the phone.
 
Date: 4/25/2010 2:38:39 AM
Author: Karl_K
Your best bet is to call a vendor and get them working the phone.
Definitely, thats the next best step to take.
 
Are you only looking at EC''s? In your original post you were looking at princesses and cushions as well.

We purchased my EC through Mark at ERD. He was extreamly helpful. Good luck!
 
Just a quick look at James Allen''s inventory, they have a few over 2ct and under 20k. What are your prefrences in rank order?
 
I suggest Whiteflash or James Allen
 
Date: 4/25/2010 5:47:56 AM
Author: Lorelei
Date: 4/25/2010 2:38:39 AM

Author: Karl_K

Your best bet is to call a vendor and get them working the phone.

Definitely, thats the next best step to take.


Thanks Karl and Lorelei,

I''m already having a vendor looking for the item, and I hope he can come through, but if not (EC is an entirely different beast altogether), I''ll have to look at it myself.
Regardless, I''ll post what I find
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Thank you,

L.
 
Date: 4/25/2010 9:36:09 AM
Author: emeraldlover1
Are you only looking at EC''s? In your original post you were looking at princesses and cushions as well.


We purchased my EC through Mark at ERD. He was extreamly helpful. Good luck!


Hi EM1,

Yes, EC only. Long story, maybe to be told one day on SMTR, but bottom line, it''s back to the drawing board
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.

Thanks for the encouragement. I''ll take a peek at ERD''s inventory inventory.

L.
 
Date: 4/25/2010 9:44:14 AM
Author: bgray
I suggest Whiteflash or James Allen


Thanks bgray, I''ll take a look there too.

L.
 
Date: 4/24/2010 2:21:50 PM
Author: michaelgem

Date: 4/24/2010 11:32:34 AM
Author: Karl_K
How big is it?
Anything over a 1/2ct or so that large a dark zone can be an issue.

With the huge table and flat crown it is the classic style which can be bright but not a lot of sparkle.
That isn''t a particularly good example of one being overly flat and a large dark zone.

As always, Karl is right on the money. The large dark zone is the result of the middle tier of pavilion facets being cut too close to 45 degrees causing retro-reflection from the direction of the observer''s head or the camera. These are areas which are relatively dark compared to the surrounding illumination (unless you are an extremely bright individual or have a light bulb in your nose
41.gif
). This is the equivalent of the dark bow tie in a marquise or the dark table in a nail-head diamond.

In addition to the large table and flat crown mentioned by Karl, an overall depth of 68.9 is a little deep for my taste in a modern emerald cut. It will look smaller face up than one around a preferable (IMO) 65% depth.

Too many cutters looking to maximize weight retention by cutting a deep pavilion ignore or are oblivious to the obvious peril of cutting any row of pavilion facets close to 45 degrees.

Michael D Cowing

Wow, very good and thorough info!
 
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