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Opinions needed on almost-white sapphire!

Discussion in 'Colored Gemstones' started by Lex183, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. Lex183
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    by Lex183 » Jun 16, 2019
    Hi all, I’m very interested in this sapphire but I’m also a bit concerned about the “hole” (for lack of a better word) in the middle. Even in person, I felt like I was looking right through the middle of the sapphire and seeing the color of whatever was under it. Is this normal? I was told it happens to all gems, but colored gems put a tint on everything, so it gives the allusion of not looking through it. However, I then see videos like this where you can’t see the black felt through the colorless gem at all... Help!

    The sapphire I’m considering:
    2759BA01-238D-4097-BC41-EBCAE4CBFD57.jpeg 8011A25E-0A1C-4BB0-8D7E-DC9A557F0ADB.jpeg A5813E4D-4A30-47DC-B31F-1F1F4B2627E0.jpeg
     
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  2. GliderPoss
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    by GliderPoss » Jun 16, 2019
    The "hole " is called a window and it's due to the way it's been cut. Personally I'd give this one a miss and look for a better stone.
     
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  3. Lex183
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    by Lex183 » Jun 16, 2019
    I thought it was a window but the person who showed it to me insisted it wasn’t, so I got very confused.. she told me a window usually looks dark. :doh: Thank you.
     
  4. Bron357
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    by Bron357 » Jun 16, 2019
    7F710ADC-D4AE-48D7-9814-F32362119D09.jpeg 39DCA01E-FFEA-451D-B7DC-E32F92BB4406.jpeg It’s called a “window” and is undesirable, especially in a pale/ clear gem as you can and will be able to see “through it” to your finger.
    Many gems will show a slight window or see through bit when tilted to the side but looking down, how you and others will be viewing your gem, you really don’t want a window.
    This is my white sapphire, it doesn’t have a window. It also shows a very faint blue in sometimes. This is common with white sapphires that they have a very faint blue or sometimes yellow tint in some lighting conditions.
     
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  5. Bron357
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    by Bron357 » Jun 16, 2019
    8D144E0A-5597-44A8-8E0F-F48CC73AFC71.jpeg 5C0CB8FC-FE95-471F-8DCB-7BAD1770077A.jpeg Get the vendor to photograph it “top down” over a dark background. If there’s a window you’ll see through to the dark underneath. In the vendor shot shown “top down” it is a light background so you can’t tell.
     
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  6. lovedogs
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    by lovedogs » Jun 17, 2019
    If the vendor denied it was a window or tried to tell you that windows are all "dark" (what does that even mean??) Then run away and find a more trustworthy vendor.
     
  7. Anne111
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    by Anne111 » Jun 17, 2019
    Second that: RUN
     
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  8. Lex183
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    by Lex183 » Jun 17, 2019
    I’ve been almost bamboozled! Thank you all for your feedback. Definitely running far far away.
     
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  9. AV_
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    by AV_ » Jun 17, 2019
    I am rather fan of almost white sapphire - particularly those with a wash of blue (& all other light blue things too). It is a long story of what it takes for a round sapphire to not look like a hole, & this is for cutters to know.

    I recall seeing nearly colourless, beautifully cut sapphires at

    Dan Stair WWW
    Earth Treasury WWW
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    John Dyer & Co. WWW

    Sapphires are loved for intense colors, so nearly colourless examples are not always offered & prices are ridiculeously different for no real reason!

    2c
     
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  10. AV_
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    by AV_ » Jun 17, 2019
    edited the post above to add links

    Digressing,

    Sapphire & diamond are quite different (in white too!) & I might argue that for very light colours the choice is less obvious than for colourless - sapphire & spinel does these very well (quibble: top diamond cut might need to be taken down a notch for the sake of colour in this range, sapphire is less bright itself...)

    I really love this colour - www ... The price tells of how far off the beaten track these light colours are!

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