The ring is on its way, no turning back there. So, I am going with the gf to Simi Valley, California for Christmas to see her family. While there, we are going to go to San Luis Obispo. On the way back, I am going to have her go through Santa Barbra. Now here is where the fun begins. I am going to do it somewhere there. I will tell her that i have a late christmas present. Long story short, she refuses to buy, or even look at a bridal magazine until she is engaged, but she says that is the first thing she is going to do after she is engaged. So, i am going to wrap up a bridal magazine in a shirt box and let her open that. That is when i will do it. SOOOOOOOOOOO, i need help on a couple things:
a. Is it traditional to ask the parents before or after the proposal, and if so, how long ahead should that be?
b. Where in Santa Barbra would be a good place to do this, i.e. such and such beach, or somthing gardens, etc... I have never been there
c. restaraunts/hotel suggestions in Santa Barbra... (limited budget of a struggling grad student who just spent $5k on a ring
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Thanks in advance...
p.s....what do you all think of the magazine idea?
a. Is it traditional to ask the parents before or after the proposal, and if so, how long ahead should that be?
b. Where in Santa Barbra would be a good place to do this, i.e. such and such beach, or somthing gardens, etc... I have never been there
c. restaraunts/hotel suggestions in Santa Barbra... (limited budget of a struggling grad student who just spent $5k on a ring

Thanks in advance...
p.s....what do you all think of the magazine idea?