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I don''t think it will really impact on his sponsorship prospects. Certainly not in the medium-long term.Date: 12/6/2009 10:14:59 AM
Author: Porridge
Haha ditto Trillionaire, I feel sorry for the sponsors in all this! Especially Gilette...first the Thierry Henry hand incident, and now Tiger. Hopefully Roger Federer will stay clean!
Date: 12/6/2009 11:20:16 AM
Author: steph72276
Oh and honestly, if these women marrying celebrities were smart, they would have a clause in their prenup that stated if the spouse is caught cheating, all terms of the prenup would be null and void, therefore giving the cheated on spouse half the money. Maybe that would be incentive enough for these men to keep it in check.
Date: 12/6/2009 11:31:21 AM
Author: miraclesrule
Date: 12/6/2009 11:20:16 AM
Author: steph72276
Oh and honestly, if these women marrying celebrities were smart, they would have a clause in their prenup that stated if the spouse is caught cheating, all terms of the prenup would be null and void, therefore giving the cheated on spouse half the money. Maybe that would be incentive enough for these men to keep it in check.
Many women do have this in a pre-nup if they aren''t marrying their childhood or college sweetheart and in those cases, there usually isn''t a pre-nup.
If I was ever to *cough* marry *cough*, and was in situation where I would have to sign a pre-nup...that caluse would be in mine. More likely scenerio for me though isthat I would be the one drafting the pre-nup if I ever considered marriage. I would need to protect my assets for my daughter and granddaughter.
Sure you will Steel!! It isn''t always as good as it sounds. My daughter didn''t fully appreciate how much I love her and my level of protection and devotion until her daughter was born.style="WIDTH: 99%; HEIGHT: 293px">Date: 12/6/2009 12:05:28 PM
Author: Steel
Date: 12/6/2009 11:31:21 AM
Author: miraclesrule
Date: 12/6/2009 11:20:16 AM
Author: steph72276
Oh and honestly, if these women marrying celebrities were smart, they would have a clause in their prenup that stated if the spouse is caught cheating, all terms of the prenup would be null and void, therefore giving the cheated on spouse half the money. Maybe that would be incentive enough for these men to keep it in check.
Many women do have this in a pre-nup if they aren''t marrying their childhood or college sweetheart and in those cases, there usually isn''t a pre-nup.
If I was ever to *cough* marry *cough*, and was in situation where I would have to sign a pre-nup...that caluse would be in mine. More likely scenerio for me though isthat I would be the one drafting the pre-nup if I ever considered marriage. I would need to protect my assets for my daughter and granddaughter.
**I am sorry to threadjack**
I was thinking about you this week MR.The closeness of your situation is inspirational for me and hope you enjoy every moment with your daughter and grandbaby. I can only wish to enjoy and offer the same support for my daughter; if I am lucky enough to have one.![]()
I agree with this point. I have known many a women married to pro athletes. However, there is a difference between knowing, agreeing and having an open dialogue about it and having it be secret mistresses one is harboring for years unbeknowst to the wife. That is deception of a very dangerous and destructive type.Date: 12/6/2009 1:32:15 PM
Author: perry
I''ve been following this thread for several days - wondering what to say. However, here are my reactions:
1) Anyone who knows athletes (male and female) knows that they have a high sex drive - and need to fullfil it in order to have peak performance. This also applies to certain other professions as well.
2) Anyone who marries such a person should know this - and either has to commit to always being there - or accepts that their partner will have sex with others (and this acceptance is by far more common than not).
3) I believe a lot of assumptions are being made right now. Getting married does not necessarily involve a vow of monogamy - we don''t know that Tigers marriage did. In my view, marriage - and the reasons for marriage - are much different than the reasons to have sex (of course, your marriage partner should also be sexually compatible for you).
4) A large percentage of people have problems with ''straying'' - guys and gals. This does not diminish their value in my eyes.
5) I wish people would just consider things like this as private and not press material. Why is it that so many people lust after this kind of ''news''.
I applaud Tiger from fleeing from a domestic situation instead of becoming engaged in a physical fight.
Perry
What evidence do you have that male athletes have a higher sex drive than normal men? What athletes seem to have, especially at Tiger's level, is a ridiculous combination of ego and opportunity.Date: 12/6/2009 1:32:15 PM
Author: perry
I've been following this thread for several days - wondering what to say. However, here are my reactions:
1) Anyone who knows athletes (male and female) knows that they have a high sex drive - and need to fullfil it in order to have peak performance. This also applies to certain other professions as well.
I'm sorry, marriage is an institution with certain rules and expectations. If a man (or woman) wants a marriage with different rules and standards from the norm, then man up and lay this out for your potential spouse ahead of time so that they can consent (or walk) *before* you go and carry out your marriage-with-different-rules behavior without telling them about it. If you can't get a spouse to agree to your terms for marriage up front, well maybe you aren't cut out for marriage. To not inform them of your extracurricular activities - and then blame the unknowing spouse for not knowing what she 'should have known' - is cowardly at best.2) Anyone who marries such a person should know this - and either has to commit to always being there - or accepts that their partner will have sex with others (and this acceptance is by far more common than not).
Uh, we are making assumptions that fit the available data, are based in part on what is the most likely type of marriage agreement, and that have not been contradicted yet by a reliable source. If the Woods' had an open marriage, don't you think one of the mistresses might have known that tidbit? We might see quote from one of them like, "Well, Tiger wanted us to stay out of the limelight for his sponserships, but his wife knew about us and didn't mind." Instead we get the great voicemail where Tiger is asking one of this women to take her NAME off her phone in case his wife calls to see whom he has been calling. They would not be in intensive marriage counseling or rewriting the prenup or whatever they are doing holed up in their private compound of a home if all of Tiger's behavior was above board according to Elin.3) I believe a lot of assumptions are being made right now. Getting married does not necessarily involve a vow of monogamy - we don't know that Tigers marriage did. In my view, marriage - and the reasons for marriage - are much different than the reasons to have sex (of course, your marriage partner should also be sexually compatible for you).
It does not diminish my opinion of their sports skills. It significantly diminishes my opinion of their suitability as a romantic partner for someone interested in an honest, exclusive relationship, and it strikes me as a significant character flaw. This is totally different from people that engage honestly with their romantic partners about their non-exclusivity. As long as you are not lying to people, betraying people, exposing people that care about you and trust you to disease risk against their knowledge, and leaving wreckage behind your contacts with others, 'stray' away!4) A large percentage of people have problems with 'straying' - guys and gals. This does not diminish their value in my eyes.
Well, I think gossip is part of the human condition. While certainly the level of tabloid coverage is over-the-top and cannibalistic in some way, I think we-the-public do have a little bit of a right to know if a man with a public persona is true to that persona in his private life. Tiger has made a lot of money of the public, he has released beautiful photos of his family for public consumption, its a part of his image that he sells to us all. I think he will still make money off his sports prowess when this all settles down, but his image will never be quite as sqeaky clean.5) I wish people would just consider things like this as private and not press material. Why is it that so many people lust after this kind of 'news'.
As do I. Too bad it got to that point, and luckily no one was seriously hurt (at least physically).5)I applaud Tiger from fleeing from a domestic situation instead of becoming engaged in a physical fight.
I don''t feel that bad for the sponsers. They make a sports god the star of their advertising campaign, they are rolling the dice. Maybe they thought Tiger was a low-risk bet, but they got dinged a bit and its time to pay up! (And I don''t think that it''ll be that bad for them long-term. Tiger will still be marketable next year.)Date: 12/6/2009 10:14:59 AM
Author: Porridge
Haha ditto Trillionaire, I feel sorry for the sponsors in all this! Especially Gilette...first the Thierry Henry hand incident, and now Tiger. Hopefully Roger Federer will stay clean!
Do you actaully know ANY female athletes? lol. That is ridiculous. I have never met one that needed to have sex in order to play better. I''m not saying that this might not be true for men, but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with being an athlete. What about some men that need it before giving a big presentation? Does that mean that all CEO''s have higher sex drives as well?Date: 12/6/2009 1:32:15 PM
Author: perry
I''ve been following this thread for several days - wondering what to say. However, here are my reactions:
1) Anyone who knows athletes (male and female) knows that they have a high sex drive - and need to fullfil it in order to have peak performance. This also applies to certain other professions as well.
Come on guys, give him a break. Don''t about 90% of men cheat? It happens everyday, it''s just a matter of whether the significant other can get over it. Just because Tiger is a public figure, doesn''t mean we should try to disect every little aspect of his life and marriage. I will repeat, this happens everyday. I''m sure everyone that has posted on this thread has been cheated on. But you didn''t have to have it posted all over the TV and internet.......Date: 12/7/2009 5:43:02 PM
Author: steph72276
Wow, Perry....you realize you''ve just insulted your entire gender, right? I mean, to simplify men in a way to say no athlete can think with their brains, but are simply animals on the hunt that can''t control their selves around women is complete and utter bs. What about those of us with husbands that do triathlons? Should we also expect to be cheated on when they are in different cities so they can be at their ''peak performance level''? That was one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on this site, and frankly I am embarrassed for you.![]()
Post #2, hm?Date: 12/7/2009 6:24:50 PM
Author: fossilrock
Come on guys, give him a break. Don''t about 90% of men cheat? It happens everyday, it''s just a matter of whether the significant other can get over it. Just because Tiger is a public figure, doesn''t mean we should try to disect every little aspect of his life and marriage. I will repeat, this happens everyday. I''m sure everyone that has posted on this thread has been cheated on. But you didn''t have to have it posted all over the TV and internet.......Date: 12/7/2009 5:43:02 PM
Author: steph72276
Wow, Perry....you realize you''ve just insulted your entire gender, right? I mean, to simplify men in a way to say no athlete can think with their brains, but are simply animals on the hunt that can''t control their selves around women is complete and utter bs. What about those of us with husbands that do triathlons? Should we also expect to be cheated on when they are in different cities so they can be at their ''peak performance level''? That was one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on this site, and frankly I am embarrassed for you.![]()
There are so many ridiculous statements in your post that I'll just point out the MOST nonsensical of them: "Athletes and other professionals have a high sex drive and need to act on it in order to have peak performance." (Please forgive the paraphrasing, but I believe I did not put words into your mouth in my restatement here.)Date: 12/6/2009 1:32:15 PM
Author: perry
I've been following this thread for several days - wondering what to say. However, here are my reactions:
1) Anyone who knows athletes (male and female) knows that they have a high sex drive - and need to fullfil it in order to have peak performance. This also applies to certain other professions as well.
2) Anyone who marries such a person should know this - and either has to commit to always being there - or accepts that their partner will have sex with others (and this acceptance is by far more common than not).
3) I believe a lot of assumptions are being made right now. Getting married does not necessarily involve a vow of monogamy - we don't know that Tigers marriage did. In my view, marriage - and the reasons for marriage - are much different than the reasons to have sex (of course, your marriage partner should also be sexually compatible for you).
4) A large percentage of people have problems with 'straying' - guys and gals. This does not diminish their value in my eyes.
5) I wish people would just consider things like this as private and not press material. Why is it that so many people lust after this kind of 'news'.
I applaud Tiger from fleeing from a domestic situation instead of becoming engaged in a physical fight.
Perry
Date: 12/7/2009 7:17:07 PM
Author: thing2of2
I saw that, Kenny. The count is now up to nine! Wow-he's disgusting.
LOL!!! You nailed it Aloros!Date: 12/7/2009 7:12:22 PM
Author: Aloros
Post #2, hm?Date: 12/7/2009 6:24:50 PM
Author: fossilrock
Come on guys, give him a break. Don't about 90% of men cheat? It happens everyday, it's just a matter of whether the significant other can get over it. Just because Tiger is a public figure, doesn't mean we should try to disect every little aspect of his life and marriage. I will repeat, this happens everyday. I'm sure everyone that has posted on this thread has been cheated on. But you didn't have to have it posted all over the TV and internet.......Date: 12/7/2009 5:43:02 PM
Author: steph72276
Wow, Perry....you realize you've just insulted your entire gender, right? I mean, to simplify men in a way to say no athlete can think with their brains, but are simply animals on the hunt that can't control their selves around women is complete and utter bs. What about those of us with husbands that do triathlons? Should we also expect to be cheated on when they are in different cities so they can be at their 'peak performance level'? That was one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen on this site, and frankly I am embarrassed for you.![]()
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Date: 12/7/2009 9:29:20 PM
Author: vespergirl
I''m almost wondering at this point if he is a sex addict - because it seems that he has been so reckless and indiscriminate with some of his decisions and choices in women. Not to say that it''s an excuse, but it seems now like it was almost a compulsion - he''s so calculating with his career, that it just seems totally out of character for him to be having random sex with waitresses all over the country - I bet that he goes into therapy for sex addiction.