Oh No Tiger! How could you...

[steph72276]

Date: 12/10/2009 11:11:12 AM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 12/10/2009 12:53:50 AM

Author: thing2of2

Yes, based on all of Tiger''s other super intelligent and discreet choices, I''m sure these pictures are totes from a nude beach and if not, I''m POSITIVE he made whoever took them sign a privacy agreement.

Ditto. These ''privacy agreements'' were just whipped out right about the time the CONDOMS were ... oh about half-past never.

haha, so true....he''s made such GREAT choices that I''m SURE he made these women sign privacy agreements

 

[kenny]

The Annual Wood's Holiday Card photo is ready.

 

[oddoneout]

Date: 12/8/2009 7:49:27 PM
Author: bebe
what a mess he has created. It seems Tiger became addicted to the highs he was getting from the relationships (?) he fostered with these women.

I can think of several things that may describe him:


addicted to the highs of an affair


sense of entitlement


Ego that needed to be fed


disconnect with his family and the fact he is married


craves the attention

I agree. It seems to be totally about him. I mean hello he''s married with a family and is very successful. What else does he need?

 

[mtjoya]

I think he is gross. Never liked him.

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/10/2009 1:14:46 PM
Author: kenny
The Annual Wood''s Holiday Card photo is ready.

I don''t think that''s funny.
Is it Dickens'' A Tale of Two Cities where the old hags sit knitting round the guillotine waiting to see the heads roll?

 

[AGBF]

Date: 12/11/2009 1:28:53 AM
Author: klewis

Date: 12/10/2009 1:14:46 PM
Author: kenny

The Annual Wood's Holiday Card photo is ready.

I don't think that's funny.
Is it Dickens' A Tale of Two Cities where the old hags sit knitting round the guillotine waiting to see the heads roll?

klewis, more than once you have made this into a sex issue. (Some people would say a "gender" issue, but I am old fashioned and use "gender" only to refer to grammar.) Be fair. Kenny is male. The hags knitting in A Tale of Two Cities were female (as I think all hags are supposed to be.) When a male commits an act you do not like, it is unfair to turn around and blame women for it. It was you who posted what I considered (but never called you on) some sexist remarks earlier in this thread when you said that women shouldn't tempt men because they know what men are (or some such thing). That is balderdash. It is dangerously close to saying that a woman who dresses in sexy clothes and is attacked was "asking" to be raped because she should have known better than to tempt the beast that is man. Society has every right to expect that that men, as well as women, will be able to control their sexual appetites to the extent that they are not preying on everyone who looks appealing. Society also has the right to expect people to use violence only in self-defense (men and women). I agree with you that female violence against men is not acceptable. If Elin Woods battered Tiger Woods, I denounce it. That had not been my take on what she did with the gold club, however.

AGBF

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/11/2009 8:11:21 AM
Author: AGBF

Date: 12/11/2009 1:28:53 AM

Author: klewis

Date: 12/10/2009 1:14:46 PM

Author: kenny


The Annual Wood''s Holiday Card photo is ready.

I don''t think that''s funny.

Is it Dickens'' A Tale of Two Cities where the old hags sit knitting round the guillotine waiting to see the heads roll?

klewis, more than once you have made this into a sex issue. (Some people would say a ''gender'' issue, but I am old fashioned and use ''gender'' only to refer to grammar.) Be fair. Kenny is male. The hags knitting in A Tale of Two Cities were female (as I think all hags are supposed to be.) When a male commits an act you do not like, it is unfair to turn around and blame women for it. It was you who posted what I considered (but never called you on) some sexist remarks earlier in this thread when you said that women shouldn''t tempt men because they know what men are (or some such thing). That is balderdash. It is dangerously close to saying that a woman who dresses in sexy clothes and is attacked was ''asking'' to be raped because she should have known better than to tempt the beast that is man. Society has every right to expect that that men, as well as women, will be able to control their sexual appetites to the extent that they are not preying on everyone who looks appealing. Society also has the right to expect people to use violence only in self-defense (men and women). I agree with you that female violence against men is not acceptable. If Elin Woods battered Tiger Woods, I denounce it. That had not been my take on what she did with the gold club, however.


AGBF

Hi AGBF
I didn''t intend the hags at the guillotine remark to refer to Kenny specifically or any one person or gender. I was trying to describe how I see the horrible, macabre but gleeful turn this topic has taken. The pic posted by Kenny illustrates it. It''s obviously a sad, painful and embarrassing situation for all the people involved and I have tried to steer my comments away from the individuals and tried to take a wider view which is, I think, more interesting and hopefully enlightening.

I do not blame women but I do hold women as accountable for their actions as I do men because I believe in equality. When any man and woman together cheat, there two people involved and unless the woman, or man, is unaware that the other person is married, then that person must shoulder some of the blame. I have seen posted on PS more than a few times, comments referring to men''s brains being in their pants, and I agree. I know! I think there is an element of truth to it but what really, really frustrates me is that we never try to understand it, it''s usually delivered as a sexist joke or put down. But, why, when there is a kind of general acknowledgment that men can be this way, isn''t the issue of how this weakness in men is played, both intentionally and unintentionally by women, up for discussion? Why is it then considered sexist?
So yes, I think this can be discussed as a sex issue and is relevant to this Tiger Woods fiasco and it needn''t be about blame.

 

[dendon]

Tiger did what a lot of men & women do, but he just got caught!!!!!

 

[AGBF]

Date: 12/11/2009 1:21:37 PM
Author: klewis


I do not blame women but I do hold women as accountable for their actions as I do men because I believe in equality. When any man and woman together cheat, there two people involved and unless the woman, or man, is unaware that the other person is married, then that person must shoulder some of the blame.

I have seen posted on PS more than a few times, comments referring to men''s brains being in their pants, and I agree. I know! I think there is an element of truth to it but what really, really frustrates me is that we never try to understand it, it''s usually delivered as a sexist joke or put down. But, why, when there is a kind of general acknowledgment that men can be this way, isn''t the issue of how this weakness in men is played, both intentionally and unintentionally by women, up for discussion? Why is it then considered sexist?

Hi, klewis-

I have highlighted a few sentences from your posting that I think demand a response. First, when a man or a woman "cheats" (i.e. has extra-marital sex) he is the only one "cheating" on his marriage or relationship. One may have negative opinions about a person who is willing to engage in extra-marital sex with a married (or committed) partner, but one cannot accuse the person who is not in the marriage or committed relationship of "cheating". I may have negative opinions of the women with whom Tiger Woods chose to have liaisons, but that does not make them guilty of "cheating". In my opinion, most of them are guilty of being poor; uneducated; working class; and being unfortunate enough to have the physical charms that have led them into lives where they have been sexually exploited in nightclubs, casinos, and off-color movies. In addition, they had the misfortune of falling into Tiger Woods'' path...although, to be fair, perhaps the kind of lives they led would have left them in the same situation with or without Mr. Woods.

Second, you have asserted that men''s brains are "in their pants" and, therefore, that women should adjust to this "reality". I do not accept it as a reality, so I do not think that it is the job of women to adjust to this. You said you believe in equality. Equality does not mean giving men a pass because they are supposedly easily aroused and unable to control themselves. It means expecting men, as well as women, to be able to control themselves, to live within some boundaries. It is expecting men to act like human beings with the same amount of control over their actions that women have.

You seem to want to make a case that men have epic sex drives over which they have no control and thus no accountability...and yet you say you believe in equality. I do not believe that men have such epic sex drives, but if I did I do not know how anyone could argue that men were women''s equals! The creatures described above are risible, not the captains of their ships.

AGBF

 

[kenny]

Tiger has announced he is taking an indefinite break from golf.
Rumor has it his wife gave him an ultimatum, It's me or golf, pick one.
Fear is he may never play again.

Here is a partial quote from the Wall Street Journal:

Tiger Woods, the greatest golfer of his generation and one of the highest-earning athletes ever, said Friday he would take an indefinite break from professional golf to focus on his family.

The announcement came two weeks after a Nov. 27 car accident outside Mr. Woods's Florida home that touched off intense scrutiny of his personal life, centering on revelations of numerous extramarital affairs.

In a statement posted on his Web site late Friday, Mr. Woods, who has won 14 major championships, acknowledged for the first time that he had committed "infidelity," and said he was "deeply aware of the disappointment and hurt" his actions had caused his family. "I want to say again to everyone that I am profoundly sorry and that I ask forgiveness," he wrote. "It may not be possible to repair the damage I've done, but I want to do my best to try."

Story

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/11/2009 3:59:07 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 12/11/2009 1:21:37 PM

Author: klewis



I do not blame women but I do hold women as accountable for their actions as I do men because I believe in equality. When any man and woman together cheat, there two people involved and unless the woman, or man, is unaware that the other person is married, then that person must shoulder some of the blame.


I have seen posted on PS more than a few times, comments referring to men''s brains being in their pants, and I agree. I know! I think there is an element of truth to it but what really, really frustrates me is that we never try to understand it, it''s usually delivered as a sexist joke or put down. But, why, when there is a kind of general acknowledgment that men can be this way, isn''t the issue of how this weakness in men is played, both intentionally and unintentionally by women, up for discussion? Why is it then considered sexist?

Hi, klewis-


I have highlighted a few sentences from your posting that I think demand a response. First, when a man or a woman ''cheats'' (i.e. has extra-marital sex) he is the only one ''cheating'' on his marriage or relationship. One may have negative opinions about a person who is willing to engage in extra-marital sex with a married (or committed) partner, but one cannot accuse the person who is not in the marriage or committed relationship of ''cheating''. I may have negative opinions of the women with whom Tiger Woods chose to have liaisons, but that does not make them guilty of ''cheating''. In my opinion, most of them are guilty of being poor; uneducated; working class; and being unfortunate enough to have the physical charms that have led them into lives where they have been sexually exploited in nightclubs, casinos, and off-color movies. In addition, they had the misfortune of falling into Tiger Woods'' path...although, to be fair, perhaps the kind of lives they led would have left them in the same situation with or without Mr. Woods.


Second, you have asserted that men''s brains are ''in their pants'' and, therefore, that women should adjust to this ''reality''. I do not accept it as a reality, so I do not think that it is the job of women to adjust to this. You said you believe in equality. Equality does not mean giving men a pass because they are supposedly easily aroused and unable to control themselves. It means expecting men, as well as women, to be able to control themselves, to live within some boundaries. It is expecting men to act like human beings with the same amount of control over their actions that women have.


You seem to want to make a case that men have epic sex drives over which they have no control and thus no accountability...and yet you say you believe in equality. I do not believe that men have such epic sex drives, but if I did I do not know how anyone could argue that men were women''s equals! The creatures described above are risible, not the captains of their ships.


AGBF

Hi AGBF
In reply to your demand for response

I see your point that "the other" unmarried person is not cheating on a marriage but to me that''s a technical point. I still believe that as long as the unmarried or uncommited party knows of the other''s commitment then they too are responsible.
I don''t know of the lives of the women who have been involved with Tiger Woods. Are they poor uneducated working class?
To quote you ( sorry I can''t highlight your post)
"poor; uneducated; working class; and being unfortunate enough to have the physical charms that have led them into lives where they have been sexually exploited in nightclubs, casinos, and off-color movies."
"Poor", "unfortunate", "led" and "exploited". Your words portray them as victims or children. C''mon! they''re grown women responsible for making intelligent (or not) decisions about their lives. You also say they "fall" into Tiger Wood''s path. Fall? Again you paint a picture of Tiger Woods the predator and the women who had affairs with him, and he with them, as victims. That is sexist, to women.


I thought I was clear when I said that I agreed that men''s brains are in their pants by adding I thought there was an element of truth to it.
I didn''t say men should be given a pass, nor did I say men have "epic" sex drives. Why have you exaggerated my comments like that?

 

[VRBeauty]

Date: 12/11/2009 8:54:03 PM
Author: kenny
Tiger has announced he is taking an indefinite break from golf.

Good for him -- and for the tour, for supporting his decision.

 

[zhuzhu]

I feel bad for Tiger.

How many men/women you know that actually lose their life-long career they are passionate about because of marital cheating?

 

[Kaleigh]

Hubby and I were just talking about this, hubby is a big golfer. I think Tiger has to take a break from golf, and put his family first. Who knows if he can ever repair the damage he's caused to his marriage. But would like to see them work it out in "private"

Nothing else is news worthy right now, so it's all things Tiger and Tiger related.... They say it's a dull time for news...

I don't watch TV much, but god, it's Tiger 24/7.


I feel for his wife, and am happy she bought a lovely house in Sweden. She needs to get away from this fish bowl and so do her kids.

I know where they live in FLA, it's crazy....

I think Tiger has been lost since his Dad died.... I do like Tiger.

Hubby is not a fan. He knows more than me....

I hope he gets his act together for his wife, his kids and his family...... Because at the end of the day, that's all that matters....

I will say I am sad for him. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a sad story plain and simple,

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 12/12/2009 12:07:19 AM
Author: zhuzhu
I feel bad for Tiger.

How many men/women you know that actually lose their life-long career they are passionate about because of marital cheating?

I don''t feel bad for him at all. Tiger didn''t lose his career because of his cheating-he chose to take a break, supposedly at his wife''s request. And I''d say that several high profile men have lost their life-long careers because of cheating-Mark Sanford, John Ensign, John Edwards, Larry Craig and Elliot Spitzer come to mind immediately.

They''re similar to Tiger in that their affairs were surrounded by tons of drama and hypocrisy. It seems like a one time fling is easier for the public to forget than multiple affairs or a public stance that is totally contradictory to the man''s private actions. (Sanford disappearing for days, Craig being anti-gay/pro "family values" but getting busted soliciting sex from a man, Ensign paying people to keep quiet about the affair, Spitzer cracking down on prostitution but also having sex with prostitutes, John Edwards the family man cheating on his cancer-stricken wife, getting his mistress pregnant and then lying about it, etc.) Phew-that''s a lot of cheating! I hope I kept everyone''s stories straight!

And now, for a PSA: Hey public figures: you will get caught, so don''t cheat! (Plus cheating''s wrong, so if you want to have sex with lots of women still, refrain from getting married!)

 

[HVVS]

Take a break, yeah. Can you imagine the heckling Eldrick Tont Woods would be getting out on the course. And from the other players, to say nothing of the crowd. Get out the earplugs, the dark glasses, and the asbestos britches, Tiger. He's laughable just for the quality of mistress he picked, if not for the quantity. I don't blame Elin for wanting to get out of the limelight. She's white, she's Swedish, and she will be divorced with two mixed race children by a guy who started behaving just like ... Well it's not polite to use that term, is it? That's a bit of a handicap for any single mom. I expect that she is feeling humiliated and also fearful at this point. I don't blame her for going back to Sweden. She has no real career to fall back on here. She was wife, and a nanny before that. She has a lot of reorganizing to do, out of the limelight. "Scandal" certainly describes the situation.

Tiger will lose sponsorships. I hope he had a good financial planner. He's not the image that advertisers want now, unless they are selling condoms. He's not only headed for a divorce, but the rest of his lifestyle is toast, as well. And he brought it all on himself. There are many conservative people who didn't like his pouting little boy antics on the golf course. He was not universally liked to begin with. What an *** he was to throw it all away.

edit: And then there is this story. http://insidesurgery.com/tag/intubated/

 

[oddoneout]

I don''t understand why his wife would attempt to work out issues (well maybe for the kids'' sake)...if she is in fact the one who demanded the break to work on issues. I''d want to kick the guy to the curb and make sure I got a nice settlement out of it for all my pain and distress.

 

[zhuzhu]

Date: 12/12/2009 11:44:22 AM
Author: HVVS
Take a break, yeah. Can you imagine the heckling Eldrick Tont Woods would be getting out on the course. And from the other players, to say nothing of the crowd. Get out the earplugs, the dark glasses, and the asbestos britches, Tiger. He''s laughable just for the quality of mistress he picked, if not for the quantity. I don''t blame Elin for wanting to get out of the limelight. She''s white, she''s Swedish, and she will be divorced with two mixed race children by a guy who started behaving just like ... Well it''s not polite to use that term, is it? That''s a bit of a handicap for any single mom. I expect that she is feeling humiliated and also fearful at this point. I don''t blame her for going back to Sweden. She has no real career to fall back on here. She was wife, and a nanny before that. She has a lot of reorganizing to do, out of the limelight. ''Scandal'' certainly describes the situation.

Tiger will lose sponsorships. I hope he had a good financial planner. He''s not the image that advertisers want now, unless they are selling condoms. He''s not only headed for a divorce, but the rest of his lifestyle is toast, as well. And he brought it all on himself. There are many conservative people who didn''t like his pouting little boy antics on the golf course. He was not universally liked to begin with. What an *** he was to throw it all away.

edit: And then there is this story. http://insidesurgery.com/tag/intubated/

I am sure Elin will feel just as horrible and angry regardless of Tiger''s ethnicity and their children being mixed race. I do not see the relevance of race in how bad this divorce/cheating drama is. Are you suggesting that having mixed race children is a sign of handicap for any single parent? I hope you were joking.

 

[vespergirl]

I am so glad that Tiger decided to take a hiatus. My DH is a big golfer, and was a huge Tiger fan, so he has been so disappointed by these affairs, but he was also relieved to hear that Tiger was going to do the right thing (finally) by focusing on his family. I heard that he, Elin & the kids are all going to the new house in Sweden together to try to work things out. I hope that for the sake of the children, they can, but I do have respect for her for at least attempting to make the children''s lives less traumatic (even though Tiger has screwed up so royally).

If it doesn''t work out, fine, but I do respect their decision to remove themselves from work, the media, and all other distractions, and focus on the most important thing - family.

 

[Lurchie]

Date: 12/12/2009 11:44:22 AM
Author: HVVS
Take a break, yeah. Can you imagine the heckling Eldrick Tont Woods would be getting out on the course. And from the other players, to say nothing of the crowd. Get out the earplugs, the dark glasses, and the asbestos britches, Tiger. He''s laughable just for the quality of mistress he picked, if not for the quantity. I don''t blame Elin for wanting to get out of the limelight. She''s white, she''s Swedish, and she will be divorced with two mixed race children by a guy who started behaving just like ... Well it''s not polite to use that term, is it? That''s a bit of a handicap for any single mom. I expect that she is feeling humiliated and also fearful at this point. I don''t blame her for going back to Sweden. She has no real career to fall back on here. She was wife, and a nanny before that. She has a lot of reorganizing to do, out of the limelight. ''Scandal'' certainly describes the situation.

Tiger will lose sponsorships. I hope he had a good financial planner. He''s not the image that advertisers want now, unless they are selling condoms. He''s not only headed for a divorce, but the rest of his lifestyle is toast, as well. And he brought it all on himself. There are many conservative people who didn''t like his pouting little boy antics on the golf course. He was not universally liked to begin with. What an *** he was to throw it all away.

edit: And then there is this story. http://insidesurgery.com/tag/intubated/

If I were you I''d consider having this post removed.

 

[miraclesrule]

 

[VRBeauty]

Date: 12/12/2009 11:44:22 AM
Author: HVVS

This post was so slimy and hate-filled that I don't even want to quote it.

There is no question that the mess Tiger Woods has made in his personal life will spill over into his professional life. Spectacular mess + spectacular, practically revered athlete = a beyond fascinating story. It's a story that will provide a lot of fodder for reflecting and opining on the roles that celebrity, privilege, the sports culture, and yes, even race, might have played in the situation and in the public reaction.

Unfortunately there will also be those who, for whatever reason, will take delight in watching the fall and the resulting damage.

Sad.

 

[HVVS]

Really?? Some must lead very sheltered lives, lol. Nope, sorry, it wasn't a "hate filled" post in the least. Just purely analytical and thinking like an advertiser, and not sugar-coating it any. He behaved very stupidly. I don't delight at all in what's happening to him. It doesn't even make any sense for you to say that. He had behavioral and career choices to make, and apparently, he has made them. It's all not my problem, and I really have no emotion whatsoever about it. If you want emotion, ask Elin what she thinks about the quality of his selections.

I'll refrain from any further comment on this topic. But it was all over today's news that sponsors are leaving.

 

[perry]

Here is my prediction:

Tiger will take 6-12 months off from golf - and then he will return; he will continue to do well in golf - although the first year of his return may not go so well. He will return becasue golf is what he does - it''s an innate part of him.

I cannot predict if his marriage will last or not.

In 5 years all most people will remember is that Tiger had a messy moment in his life - and overcame it. Just like most people have a messy moment in their life - and move on.

He will have pleanty of sponsors as long as he wins.

He has and will make enough money in the future that his lifestyle will be unaffected.

I really do not see why this is such a news story. The same story is repeated very often.

Perry

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 12/12/2009 4:11:37 PM
Author: zhuzhu

Date: 12/12/2009 11:44:22 AM
Author: HVVS
Take a break, yeah. Can you imagine the heckling Eldrick Tont Woods would be getting out on the course. And from the other players, to say nothing of the crowd. Get out the earplugs, the dark glasses, and the asbestos britches, Tiger. He''s laughable just for the quality of mistress he picked, if not for the quantity. I don''t blame Elin for wanting to get out of the limelight. She''s white, she''s Swedish, and she will be divorced with two mixed race children by a guy who started behaving just like ... Well it''s not polite to use that term, is it? That''s a bit of a handicap for any single mom. I expect that she is feeling humiliated and also fearful at this point. I don''t blame her for going back to Sweden. She has no real career to fall back on here. She was wife, and a nanny before that. She has a lot of reorganizing to do, out of the limelight. ''Scandal'' certainly describes the situation.

Tiger will lose sponsorships. I hope he had a good financial planner. He''s not the image that advertisers want now, unless they are selling condoms. He''s not only headed for a divorce, but the rest of his lifestyle is toast, as well. And he brought it all on himself. There are many conservative people who didn''t like his pouting little boy antics on the golf course. He was not universally liked to begin with. What an *** he was to throw it all away.

edit: And then there is this story. http://insidesurgery.com/tag/intubated/

I am sure Elin will feel just as horrible and angry regardless of Tiger''s ethnicity and their children being mixed race. I do not see the relevance of race in how bad this divorce/cheating drama is. Are you suggesting that having mixed race children is a sign of handicap for any single parent? I hope you were joking.

I don''t see the relevance of race either. I wish his family all the best while they sort things out. I really care about the kids, and his Wife. Tiger needs help, hpe he gets it.

 

[packrat]

My thoughts..cuz well..it''s late and I''ve had too much caffeine today.

I do not feel sorry for him. I doubt anyone had a gun to his head and made him have sex w/other women. If he was *that* worried about his family and career, uh..and this is where you''ll see my dizzying intellect showing..then he wouldn''t have done it.

Here''s a little quiz you (and you don''t even need to be a celebrity to do this one) could take in your mind, if you are unsure if something would be the right thing to do or not. "Will my wife be so supremely ticked off as to possibly leave me and take our children with her?" If the answer is yes, then, DON''T DO IT. "If others were to find out about this, could I potentially not only lose my family, but millions of dollars and fans around the world, and totally humiliate myself and my family in the process?" Now, you might need to take a second to think on that one, cuz you know, that''s a long one, and if you do, feel free to hum the Jeopardy wait song....ok, so if the answer is yes...DOOON''T DOOOO IIIIIT.

Celeb or not, I don''t care how much money you make or how talented you are in something, if you do something wrong, take your lumps and suck it up and deal with it. If you want to be rich and famous and be on tv and commercials and whatnot when you''re acting good...stands to reason, to me at least, that you''re going to be talked about when you''re not acting good too.

 

[IloveAsschers13]

Date: 12/13/2009 11:40:56 AM
Author: Lurchie

Date: 12/12/2009 11:44:22 AM

Author: HVVS

Take a break, yeah. Can you imagine the heckling Eldrick Tont Woods would be getting out on the course. And from the other players, to say nothing of the crowd. Get out the earplugs, the dark glasses, and the asbestos britches, Tiger. He's laughable just for the quality of mistress he picked, if not for the quantity. I don't blame Elin for wanting to get out of the limelight. She's white, she's Swedish, and she will be divorced with two mixed race children by a guy who started behaving just like... Well it's not polite to use that term, is it?That's a bit of a handicap for any single mom. I expect that she is feeling humiliated and also fearful at this point. I don't blame her for going back to Sweden. She has no real career to fall back on here. She was wife, and a nanny before that. She has a lot of reorganizing to do, out of the limelight. 'Scandal' certainly describes the situation.


Tiger will lose sponsorships. I hope he had a good financial planner. He's not the image that advertisers want now, unless they are selling condoms. He's not only headed for a divorce, but the rest of his lifestyle is toast, as well. And he brought it all on himself. There are many conservative people who didn't like his pouting little boy antics on the golf course. He was not universally liked to begin with. What an *** he was to throw it all away.


edit: And then there is this story. http://insidesurgery.com/tag/intubated/

If I were you I'd consider having this post removed.

+1. I think that when these few sentences are read together, it really is offensive. I think she is humiliated because of how her husband has acted, but DEFINITELY not because of her husbands race as well as her mixed race children.

I just read it again, and I honestly don't get why it matters that she is white and has mixed race children?

ETA I am ONLY trying to bold the sentences "She's white, she's Swedish, and she will be divorced with two mixed race children by a guy who started behaving just like... Well it's not polite to use that term, is it?That's a bit of a handicap for any single mom. I expect that she is feeling humiliated and also fearful at this point."

 

[megumic]

Date: 12/12/2009 12:07:19 AM
Author: zhuzhu
I feel bad for Tiger.


How many men/women you know that actually lose their life-long career they are passionate about because of marital cheating?

You feel what for Tiger?! Did I read that correctly? You feel BAD for TIGER?! I am shocked, appalled, outraged, all of those things! I feel bad for those who lose their life-long careers they are passionate about because the economy sucks or big companies make big mistakes (Enron, Tyco, Bear, etc.) or they get in an accident or get a disease or some other reason out of their control - but most certainly NOT for a man who cheats on his wife!!! I feel bad Tiger is a moron who has ruined the lives of his wife, children and family, but that''s about it.

You''re clearly feeling anything at all for the wrong person here...

ALSO - HVVS''s post should be removed immediately.

 

[Hera]

Date: 12/14/2009 12:10:39 AM
Author: megumic

Date: 12/12/2009 12:07:19 AM

Author: zhuzhu

I feel bad for Tiger.



How many men/women you know that actually lose their life-long career they are passionate about because of marital cheating?

You feel what for Tiger?! Did I read that correctly? You feel BAD for TIGER?! I am shocked, appalled, outraged, all of those things! I feel bad for those who lose their life-long careers they are passionate about because the economy sucks or big companies make big mistakes (Enron, Tyco, Bear, etc.) or they get in an accident or get a disease or some other reason out of their control - but most certainly NOT for a man who cheats on his wife!!! I feel bad Tiger is a moron who has ruined the lives of his wife, children and family, but that's about it.


You're clearly feeling anything at all for the wrong person here...


ALSO - HVVS's post should be removed immediately.

I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling a little empathy on both sides. There's big losses on both sides.

 

[steph72276]

The fact of the matter is that when you put yourself out there as a public figure, as Tiger did when he accepted multi-million dollar contracts for endorsements, your life is up for public scrutiny....so you can either a). conduct yourself in a manner that doesn''t cause harm/embarrassment to yourself and family or you can b). suffer the consequences of your life becoming the top story. Love it or hate it, right or wrong, that''s the way it is.