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Offered old diamond, pass or take?

The stone you were offered is a transitional cut early modern brilliant with a huge table. These types of stones are usually shallow cuts - small crowns, big tables and frequently lack depth meaning they are not always good candidates for recutting without losing a lot of weight. The only bonus is it faces up nice and white other than that its a bad cut and a poor clarity, two things I would avoid.
 
"How noticeable is tint".

Do your eyes work? Seeing tint, is just that-- your eyes working. How noticeable is the color blue. It's just blue. Or the color Green? It's there. How noticeable it is depends on the beholder. The question is... do YOU like or dislike blue. Or green. Seeing tint isn't the problem. It never is. It's being bothered by it. Some people are, others are not. People vary. HOW much it bothers a person is subjective. So we can't answer the question for YOU. We can only tell you if it bothers us, or doesn't. But that's not valuable. Why? We aren't you. We aren't the wearer.

You need to go see lower colored stones for yourself. With the wearer of the diamond. And then decide if they are right for you.
Where are you located? Maybe we can give you the names of some good jewelers to call.

:wavey:
 
Gypsy said:
"How noticeable is tint".

Do your eyes work? Seeing tint, is just that-- your eyes working. How noticeable is the color blue. It's just blue. Or the color Green? It's there. How noticeable it is depends on the beholder. The question is... do YOU like or dislike blue. Or green. Seeing tint isn't the problem. It never is. It's being bothered by it. Some people are, others are not. People vary. HOW much it bothers a person is subjective. So we can't answer the question for YOU. We can only tell you if it bothers us, or doesn't. But that's not valuable. Why? We aren't you. We aren't the wearer.

You need to go see lower colored stones for yourself. With the wearer of the diamond. And then decide if they are right for you.
Where are you located? Maybe we can give you the names of some good jewelers to call.

:wavey:
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Haha you have a way with words ;) then again I worded my question fairly poorly! Yes my eyes work excellent so I can notice tint haha!

As I was looking at the pictures on jewels by grace the diamonds didn't seem to have a massive tint difference. Was this partially due to the photography? Or would the diamonds appear the same tint difference in real life ? Wasn't sure how OEC effected color as opposed to modern RB?
 
Oh gypsy I am located in St Joseph, MO! Just an hour north of Kansas City!
 
You have to see the various colours in person and decide where your tolerance lies. Some vendors are great photographers and select lighting that shows the stone at its best (least amount of tint). Depending on the lighting, the same stone can show more or less tint. Part of this is also due to the cut style and cut quality.
 
I"m going to loop back to the recut question, even though the OP seems to have moved on. It comes up regularly and seems to cause confusion.

Big table and shallow tends to show a lot of waste on recut. Even if it takes out the I2 grade setting inclusion, you’re looking at, say, a 1.85/I1/J. You’ll be into it for $8500 to the seller plus $500 in grease plus $1000 in fees, shipping, grading, and so on. That’s $10k+ with no guarantees. It might be better, it might be worse. Expect to be messing with it for at least 3 months before it’s available to set.

There’s a few comps in the PS database that top out at for $7000 retail. Someone else has done all of the work and taken all of the risks.

A dealer looking at this, like that jeweler who is supposedly is in line behind you, would almost certainly pass. If your friend is connected to the industry as he says, he surely knows this.

The big topics in recutting questiongs are the yield and the risk. Staying over 2.0cts helps a lot while staying at I2 is a serious problem. If that appraiser's idea of J turns out to be K or L, that's a serious problem. That's the kind of thing that scares away the pros from deals like this.
 
Agree with Denver.
It all depends on how much they're asking.

If you have all the Table, Crown & Pavilion Angled, Total Depth. Girdle and Diameter one of the many professionals here can give you a yield estimate for re-cut.
 
Thanks Denver for putting cost into consideration, really makes me reconsider this being such a deal and glad I came here! I'm starting to think its quite overpriced for what it is. The jeweler hasn't seen it yet, he was just showing me before he took it to the jeweler, so I have no idea what they'll do but I'm assuming turn it down or offer a low price as you say.

Embee, unfortunately I have absolutely no other specs than what I've provided.

Seems as though this thread has more than answered my questions!!!
 
There certainly is a lot to learn about these OEC's. You've had some great advice here, & thanks for posting because I've learned quite a bit myself.

Sharon & Rhea, you both mention the N from LAD. What makes this stone stand out enough for you gals to recommend it? How does blue Fluoro enhance the N in an OEC? Probably the same as a MRB I suppose.
 
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