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Newbie needs Idealscope guidance

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Jongleur

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Hello there!

I am buying a stone for an engagement ring. There''s a thread about it here.

The basic idea is just under a carat, price range $3000 - $5000. Someone recommended this one as an example.

I asked for the Idealscope image, and it''s attached to this post (hopefully I did that right; I''m new).


I''m trying to be a good forum member and read lots of threads, but I''d still like some guidance. Here''s what I *think* I see, and I''d like your comments.

1. From the reference chart on Ideal-scope.com, it looks like this diamond is in between "Good" and "Very Good" on both light return and symmetry.

2. It looks like the "white spots" in the upper right-hand quadrant of the stone are bigger and brighter than the bottom left quad. I don''t know if that imbalance is due to a tilt when taking the picture, or is really an imbalance in the stone. I also don''t know whether it would matter when look at the stone without magnification.

3. I see inclusions on both the "real diamond" image and the Idealscope image, but they look small enough to my uneducated eye. I think they''re not that bad?

4. In the original thread where this one was suggested, part of the rationale given was that it was a Tolkowsky Ideal Cut (TIC), which I guess is a safe sweet spot for people who aren''t sure what "personality" they prefer in their diamonds. This page on diamond-cut.com defines TIC, BIC and FIC by the crown angles. Two questions:
4a. Is an Idealscope image a useful cross-check on whether a stone is TIC, FIC, or BIC, or does it not even address that kind of difference?
4b. Before coming here to be educated, we saw a Hearts on Fire in person and were really impressed. Where on the TIC/FIC/BIC chart would you guys say is closest to the "style" of a Hearts on Fire? The ones we saw in the store seemed "super-sparkly," so I would guess it''s more in the BIC range, but I don''t know. The closest thread I could find on this topic was here, but it wasn''t that useful.

5. Generally, what should I be looking at on this image, and where are some good threads to guide me? I''ve been reading on this for a while now, and still feel pretty green.

Thanks SO much for your help!


- Chris

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strmrdr

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light return is excellent, optical symmetry face up is exellent, without hearts images the overall optical symmetry can not be determined.

The variation in white spots is:
1: tilt
2: some minor variations in the upper girdle facets.
 

glitterata

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If you''re interested in that diamond, you should put it on hold. It looks like a great stone for a great price, and there are lots of lurkers who could buy it before you have a chance.
 

Lorelei

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Jongleur

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Date: 2/7/2009 10:53:17 AM
Author: glitterata
If you''re interested in that diamond, you should put it on hold. It looks like a great stone for a great price, and there are lots of lurkers who could buy it before you have a chance.
I called and looked around on the site, but it doesn''t look like there''s a way to put it on hold over the weekend? I''ll do it Monday morning.

- Chris
 

Lorelei

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Date: 2/7/2009 11:27:37 AM
Author: Jongleur

Date: 2/7/2009 10:53:17 AM
Author: glitterata
If you''re interested in that diamond, you should put it on hold. It looks like a great stone for a great price, and there are lots of lurkers who could buy it before you have a chance.
I called and looked around on the site, but it doesn''t look like there''s a way to put it on hold over the weekend? I''ll do it Monday morning.

- Chris
Try an email Chris.
 

JulieN

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It has excellent light return and symmetry. Very nice!

hearts on fire are TIC.
 

DiamondsDiamonds

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The Idealscope image and stats both look great. You do want to see the hearts also, however, as strmrdr indicated, to ensure for complete optical symmetry.
 
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