Newbie - Advice on engagement diamond

[stone-cold11]

It is common, SI1 clarity are inclusions that can easily seen with 10X mag, else it will not be graded as SI1 but higher clarity. Eye-clean and if it will affect optical performance is another matter totally and will have to be judge by the vendor or independent appraiser.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/15/2009 11:45:44 AM
Author: jhebner
Lorelei:

So under 10x maganification there is a small cloud in the diamond. They do not have it in there hands, but he wanted me to order in and they he can confirm if the brilliance is compromised. I assume that it would be, but how much is the question. Any advice you can provide would be appreciated? Should I look for another diamond. I think I am pretty much sold on Union Diamond.

Thanks again.

Sorry I had to log off for a bit due to thunderstorms, back now.

The main issue with SI1 clarities with clouds is as I explained a potential loss of brilliance in the diamond, this is uncommon in SI1 grades but not unheard of. The best thing to do if you ordered the diamond would be for an independant appraiser to take a look as I suggested above, I don't want to mislead you by assuming it would be ok when I don't have the actual expertise or experience with diamonds to make such assumptions, so that is what I would do.

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 6/15/2009 12:04:58 PM
Author: jhebner
I am also looking at this one below:

Certificate: GIA (2101568075)
Carat: 0.74

This stone, girdle is thick, will face up smaller than ideal, slightly too steep a pavilion for that crown angle, if IS is available then can determine if leakage is there or not.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/15/2009 12:04:58 PM
Author: jhebner
I am also looking at this one below:

Certificate: GIA (2101568075)
Shape: Round
Cut: Premium
Carat: 0.74
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Regular Price: $2021
Wire Transfer Price: $1962

Diamond Proportions:
Measurements: 5.77-5.74-3.59
Depth Percentage: 62.4 %
Table Percentage: 58 %
Crown: 35.5
Pavillion: 40.8
Girdle: STK-TK
Culet: None (Pointed)
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Faint
Clarity Characteristic: Crystal

This one definitely needs an Idealscope image to check out the angle combo for potential leakage, both crown and pavilion angles are too steep and deep in this case to be a good fit which can result in light leakage, thus what we call a steep deep.

SC, I am curious, does your boss not mind you PSing at work?

 

[stone-cold11]

Lunch.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/15/2009 12:15:35 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Lunch.

LOL!

 

[jhebner]

You guys are really helpful, thanks a lot. I really do not know if I should commit to the 0.77 stone, but it seems like excellent value. I think having the independant appraiser evaluate may be the best way to go. I will keep you posted.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/15/2009 12:29:14 PM
Author: jhebner
You guys are really helpful, thanks a lot. I really do not know if I should commit to the 0.77 stone, but it seems like excellent value. I think having the independant appraiser evaluate may be the best way to go. I will keep you posted.

I think so too, keep us posted!

 

[jhebner]

So I will be making the order on the diamond tomorrow (pic attached- not sure if this helps). Union Diamond rep talked to the dealer and there is a small feather on the side and also the cloud. The rep (who I trust - have talked to about 7 times and gotten to know) says he will personally visually inspect and give me his opinion. He has been in the industry for 30 years he said.

One thing he did say is that the diamond is GIA Dossier Rating. Should this concern me?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/15/2009 7:10:13 PM
Author: jhebner
So I will be making the order on the diamond tomorrow (pic attached- not sure if this helps). Union Diamond rep talked to the dealer and there is a small feather on the side and also the cloud. The rep (who I trust - have talked to about 7 times and gotten to know) says he will personally visually inspect and give me his opinion. He has been in the industry for 30 years he said.

One thing he did say is that the diamond is GIA Dossier Rating. Should this concern me?

No, GIA diamond dossier is fine, some prefer to have these rather than the full GIA report, they are less expensive than the full reports for the sellers. The stone will be indentifiable with an inscription as the GIA DD does not include a clarity map like the full reports.

You could still get an independant appraisal to be absolutely confident if you wish.

 

[jhebner]

Lorelei/Stone-cold:

Thanks for your help. I will be ordering today (prob about 5 mins). I will let you know how everything goes.

Take care,

Justin

 

[Lorelei]

Good luck Justin!!

 

[stone-cold11]

Good luck.