New to Forum. Seeking Opinions on Round Brilliant.

[DrHibbert]

Hi!

We're hoping to get a second opinion (or several) on an on-line stone we're considering for an E-ring. We have only the cert and raw numbers to rely upon as photos, ID-scope, etc. are unavailable. Please let us know what you think. Thanks!!

1.507 round cut
H/VS1/AGS 000
culet - none
fluor - none
girdle - faceted thin - s.thick (1.6%-4.1%)
7.33 x 7.38 x 4.54
table - 55.4%
depth - 61.7%
crown - 34.6 deg, 15.4%
pav - 40.7 deg, 43%
other - engraved with AGS # and "H&A" (fwiw)

 

[Lorelei]

Welcome

This diamond looks super and a great choice, cherry numbers and hard to go wrong! I think it is a fair assumption this diamond is stunning.

 

[Regular Guy]

Doctor, you're smack dab in the center of AGS goodness there, and with a confirming AGS cert (you could double check that it's a newer certificate, showing 0 for light performance), you're clear, I think, for take off. If you've no other questions (get other opinions, of course), congratulations on what seems to be a nice find.

 

[neatfreak]

As long as the price is good, the stone looks fantastic from the numbers.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/11/2007 11:16:16 AM
Author: Regular Guy
Doctor, you''re smack dab in the center of AGS goodness there, and with a confirming AGS cert (you could double check that it''s a newer citificate, showing 0 for light performance), you''re clear, I think, for take off. If you''ve no other questions (get other opinions, of course), congratulations on what seems to be a nice find.

Nicely put Ira!

 

[belle]

welcome to ps

if you are going to buy from numbers alone, this would be a good risk.

hope you will post pics when you get it.

 

[DrHibbert]

Thanks for the warm welcome! The cert was dated Mar-07 so it is indeed the "new style" AGS report. We thought the numbers looked good but we''re rank amateurs at this compared to most of you here. The only thing that concerned us a bit was the girdle variability. Is this a big issue? Also, is it possible to predict H&A from the specs alone? As I mentioned, this stone is engraved "H&A" but we are skeptical, of course, that this means what it should. Thanks again.

 

[Regular Guy]

I don't think numbers will confirm H&A, and you've reason to be skeptical that the inscription documents anything.

a) smart guys on this forum don't make a lot of it
b) other smart guys on the forum do, but...not sure that anybody but those particular smart guys, and their associates, would be able to provide you the most rigorous confirmation anyway, so you may need to either find them or forget them.

But, an H&A viewer could help you get a very good idea.

 

[belle]

Date: 5/11/2007 11:45:53 AM
Author: DrHibbert

The cert was dated Mar-07 so it is indeed the ''new style'' AGS report.

i''m not sure exactly when ags quit issuing the ''old style'' report. if it has indeed been completely stopped being issued now, it hasn''t been that long. the only real way to know for sure that you have the new report is not by the date, but by the indication that it is ''performance based''

Date: 5/11/2007 11:45:53 AM
Author: DrHibbert
We thought the numbers looked good but we''re rank amateurs at this compared to most of you here. The only thing that concerned us a bit was the girdle variability. Is this a big issue?

not necessarily. it could be just one small spot on the girdle that is either ''thin'' or ''slightly thick''. it doesn''t mean that the whole thing is wonky.

Date: 5/11/2007 11:45:53 AM
Author: DrHibbert
Also, is it possible to predict H&A from the specs alone? As I mentioned, this stone is engraved ''H&A'' but we are skeptical, of course, that this means what it should.

not possible at all. there is a good chance it is but there is no way to tell from the numbers alone. the h&a inscription means as much as if it said ''most beautiful diamond ever''. it is simply the inscription that someone requested by put on.

 

[DrHibbert]

Sorry, I should have clarified...it IS the performance based cert with light, proportion and finish scores. I think we''re going to give it a shot and see what it looks like in person. Possibly take it to an appraiser as well.

 

[belle]

Date: 5/11/2007 12:12:27 PM
Author: DrHibbert
Sorry, I should have clarified...it IS the performance based cert with light, proportion and finish scores.

cool.. you''re all good then.

Date: 5/11/2007 12:12:27 PM
Author: DrHibbert
I think we''re going to give it a shot and see what it looks like in person. Possibly take it to an appraiser as well.

perfect!
let us know how you love it

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I think the numebrs are great, and it should appear to have H&A. Whether it is perfect H&A, who knows? But it likely will be just fine. We go a little OCD over details here, but any AGS0 stone should be totally fine!

 

[kcoursolle]

The numbers on this stone look great, and the girdle variability is fine. I''m usually fine with thin-slightly thick, more than that I probably wouldn''t be.

One last thing, I would do a search on pricescope for diamonds of similar characteristics to see what the prices are to make sure that you aren''t paying too much.

Other than that, I think you have a winner!

 

[DrHibbert]

Thanks for all of the opinions. But now for another twist...

We just found a larger - 1.72 - but near-comparably priced ACA stone on Whiteflash. It's an I VS1 instead of H VS1, however, and we're a little concerned that the I won't match with the (supposedly) G/H small side stones in our setting. Aside from color, everything else on the WF looks amazing. Here are the basics and a link to the WF page:

Report: AGS
. Shape: A Cut Above H&A
. Carat: 1.717
. Depth %: 61.6
. Table %: 55.9
. Crown Angle: 34.8
. Crown %: 15.3
. Star : 52
. Pavilion Angle: 40.7
. Pavilion %: 42.8
. Lower Girdle %: 75
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 7.67-7.68X4.73
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-273546.htm

So....what do you think of this stone in comarison to the 1.50 I posted above? This could be a tough decision! Thanks.

 

[yellowsparkles]

ohhhh I like it!
I am not a pro - but I do like the way this stone looks!

 

[kcoursolle]

Date: 5/11/2007 4:55:58 PM
Author: DrHibbert
Thanks for all of the opinions. But now for another twist...

We just found a larger - 1.72 - but near-comparably priced ACA stone on Whiteflash. It''s an I instead of H, however, and we''re a little concerned that the I won''t match with the (supposedly) G/H small side stones in our setting. Aside from color, everything else on the WF looks amazing. Here are the basics and a link to the WF page:

Report: AGS
. Shape: A Cut Above H&A
. Carat: 1.717
. Depth %: 61.6
. Table %: 55.9
. Crown Angle: 34.8
. Crown %: 15.3
. Star : 52
. Pavilion Angle: 40.7
. Pavilion %: 42.8
. Lower Girdle %: 75
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 7.67-7.68X4.73
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-273546.htm

So....what do you think of this stone in comarison to the 1.50 I posted above? This could be a tough decision! Thanks.

The numbers and the image look great for this stone. You can easily drop in clarity, VS1 is a bit of overkill.

There probably won''t be a big difference in colors with the sidestones. My avatar has both H and I stones, can you tell a difference between them?

 

[jayreneepea]

I have an I center stone with G sidestones, you can''t tell the difference.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Color is very personal. I have an H VS1. I looked at G and H and no lower. You have to be sure how you feel about the color. But an ACA is a wonderful choice!

 

[kcoursolle]

If you are worried about color, why not go to an H/SI1?

 

[Lorelei]

Gorgeous diamond, I see you reserved it then?

 

[MWG]

You will not be disappointed with an ACA

MWG