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New RB Contender - Is This A Good One??

Sparkle524

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Could I get opinions on this RB? I'm not an expert but I think I've seen better ASET pics. Also looks like there is light leakage under the table. They are wanting $68500 wired which is more than Blue Nile. Blue Nile wired is $67024 but of course you don't get any reports. When I asked about the price difference the vendor never answered my question only that they would bring in this diamond at no charge to me.

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One more.

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Looks great to me- are you happy with the price and stats?
 
Looks fine from the pics. Not H&A but you know that, and it can be a beauty w/o perfect hearts and arrows patterns. What does WF say?

BN is a drop-shipper - they never actually see the stone before they send it to you. The premium is to be expected - since they're calling it in, taking scans and photos, inspecting it for you, all of which takes time and energy, they're charging you for it. All said and done it's a tradeoff most PSers would be happy to make - especially with a purchase of this magnitude!

Since it's a virtual stone it won't be automatically eligible for any of the policies that WF's in-house brands are, so be sure to clarify w/ your rep exactly what this stone will qualify for in terms of upgrade, buyback, etc.
 
BN will be cheaper/- buy they can't examine the stone for you
 
Yes, I do prefer that the stone be analyzed before purchase. I did tell my rep that I would like a stone that would qualify for their upgrade policy. I don't think this stone will qualif but we'll see. The rep and I keep missing each other's phone call but I plan on seeing the stone in person next week.

Is the ASET suppose to be dark red to signify a brillant stone? The area around the outside of the stone looks like pale red to me. It also looks like there is an inclusion around 11: 55. I will have to ask because it's not shown on the diamond plotting. I did know that the stone would not be a H & A but I was hoping that we could find one. GOG also has 2 stones coming in for me. They should be analyzed on Saturday. I paid $200 to have the analysis done.
 
ASET is not as important for RBs. The ideal scope image is great. Maybe the smallest bit of leakage under the table, but I honestly think that would not be apparent in person. You will see it, so no worries. Do you plan to have your top contenders evaluated and compared by an appraiser? Since you obviously care about getting the best, it might be something that would help you feel good about your selection.
 
Amy's Bling, Yssie and DreamerD thank you for your input.

DreamerD I do plan on having all the stones in one location to decide unless there is one stone that totally blows me away. The two stones that GOG is sourcing for me is a 2.6 E VS2 and a 2.5 F VS2. Both diamonds cost less than the WF stone. I want to make the right decision without spending the extra money if I don't have to so we will see. I will post the pics here when I get I get them. Thank you for letting me know that the ASET is not as important in a RB. What about the Sarin? I read up on it and it looks like I need some more info on the Sarin like the min and max crown and pavillion angles, etc. Do you see anything wrong with the Sarin?
 
def post pics
 
Okay, just received the pics for the other two diamonds.

2.5 F VS2
GIA - XXX
AGS light performance - X

8.77 x 8.74 x 5.37 mm
Table: 59%
Depth: 61.4%
crown angle: 35
pavillion angle: 41
*Lifetime guarantee

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more pics of FVS2

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more pics FVS2

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Last diamond is: 2.6 EVS2

GIA - XXX
AGS light performance - excellent

8.80 x 8.70 x 5.45 mm
table: 59%
depth: 61.9%
crown angle: 34.5
pavillion angle: 41

*lifetime guarantee

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continuing pics of 2.6 E VS2

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more 2.6 E VS2

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I'm not sure about the 2.6 E VS2 and the 2.5 F VS2. Looks like there is too much light leakage under the table. Also the table % seems a little large especially on the 2.6 E VS2. Is the E out of round? When is a diamond out of round? How would you rank these diamonds? Also should I keep looking? I would have preferred an AGS000 but I think those are few and far in between. I would love opinions/advice. Thank you.
 
Any thoughts? I have an appointment with WF on Tuesday to look at the 2.72.
 
Sparkle524|1332038480|3151153 said:
I'm not sure about the 2.6 E VS2 and the 2.5 F VS2. Looks like there is too much light leakage under the table. Also the table % seems a little large especially on the 2.6 E VS2. Is the E out of round? When is a diamond out of round? How would you rank these diamonds? Also should I keep looking? I would have preferred an AGS000 but I think those are few and far in between. I would love opinions/advice. Thank you.

They both have light leakage. You can see it in the middle easily.

However, they will still be pretty stones. It's up to you. Like the HCA says, if the price is really amazing, they might be worth it. Otherwise, the WF one looks good.

If you keep shopping, try to find a stone with a shallower pavilion. Steeper crowns with steeper pavilions (greater than 40.9) can show leakage.
 
Laila619 Sorry I'm new to all of this and I'm not sure what a great price would be. What would you consider an amazing price? Here's a break down of the prices.

2.72 F VS1 $68,500 bank wire

2.6 E VS2 $63,453 bank wire

2.5 F VS2 $56,294 bank wire

I'm thinking looks wise that the 2.72 would be the best choice out of all three but does the price seem unreasonable?
 
They both have leakage under the table- but you have to see how you like them in person :)
 
AmysBling yeah I noticed that as well. In order for me to see the 2.5 F and the 2.6 E I would have to have them sent to an appraiser in my area. I'm still waiting on the video for the two.

Has anyone ever seen idealscope pics with leakage under the table but they still looked nice? I'm wondering if I should just pass on these two stones and keep looking.
 
Does anyone else have any input?
 
Personally the G SI 1 gets the highest marks on the MegaScope. It is an AGS 000 IDEAL, You would save yourself about $20k to boot. I'm sure it is eye clean and the best value for your $. You won't be able to tell the slight diff. in color between the G and the F. But get GOG to do a video with all 3 diamonds and maybe then you can make up your mind. G is still in the colorless range and no one that sees your stone set in your ring will know what color it is as it will look very white. In your price range I would definitely trust GOG to find me the best performing diamond. Good luck with whatever you choose.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9112/
 
ariel144|1332313075|3153340 said:
Personally the G SI 1 gets the highest marks on the MegaScope. It is an AGS 000 IDEAL, You would save yourself about $20k to boot. I'm sure it is eye clean and the best value for your $. You won't be able to tell the slight diff. in color between the G and the F. But get GOG to do a video with all 3 diamonds and maybe then you can make up your mind. G is still in the colorless range and no one that sees your stone set in your ring will know what color it is as it will look very white. In your price range I would definitely trust GOG to find me the best performing diamond. Good luck with whatever you choose.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9112/


THIS. DEFINITELY THIS.

ESPECIALLY If you are going to halo it.
 
Ariel and Gypsy I asked GOG for a video of the E, F and the one Ariel posted to be compared. The G that Ariel posted actually has a HCA of 3+. I guess that does not matter when you have actual reports? I just don't want to make any mistakes with my purchase as I may "never" upgrade again. I am going to see the 2.72 from WF today and will post any pics/video that I take. Thanks for all your help.

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Gypsy|1332314590|3153347 said:
ariel144|1332313075|3153340 said:
Personally the G SI 1 gets the highest marks on the MegaScope. It is an AGS 000 IDEAL, You would save yourself about $20k to boot. I'm sure it is eye clean and the best value for your $. You won't be able to tell the slight diff. in color between the G and the F. But get GOG to do a video with all 3 diamonds and maybe then you can make up your mind. G is still in the colorless range and no one that sees your stone set in your ring will know what color it is as it will look very white. In your price range I would definitely trust GOG to find me the best performing diamond. Good luck with whatever you choose.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9112/


THIS. DEFINITELY THIS.

ESPECIALLY If you are going to halo it.


the HCA does not matter when you have idealscope/ASET pics. the HCA uses four numbers to tell you about the diamond's light performance and the idealscope is an actual image of the diamond.
 
Thanks SLG47. I went to look at the 2.72 today at it was very pretty. I'll post pics/video when I get the chance.
 
if i were to spent this kind of $$$s it better be "cream of the crop" cut .
 
Dancing Fire|1332371437|3153816 said:
if i were to spent this kind of $$$s it better be "cream of the crop" cut .


Which one of the 4 would you choose? The two (2.6 E, 2.5 F) from GOG are GIA graded but the AGS PGS report shows ideal. The 2.55 G from GOG is AGS 000 as well. The 3 diamonds mentioned all score higher than a 2 on the HCA. The diamond from WF has an HCA of 2 and is a GIA XXX.
 
I'd probably go for the G.

The differences are incremental. You only give up some symmetry for this one. And it's 20k in savings. You are sticking it an halo so the small differences in spread are going to be irrelevant.
 
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