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Hi need some advise on a few diamonds which have been shortlisted by me... but a bit confuse which one to get. Hope to get some tips TIA



- 0.84ct D color VVS2



Total depth percentage60.2%
Table size percentage57%
Crown height percentage14.3%
Crown angle33.9°
Star length percentage55%
Pavilion depth percentage43.0%
Pavilion angle40.8°

- 0.84ct E color VS1



Total depth percentage 61.7%
Table size percentage 56%
Crown height percentage 15.5%
Crown angle 35.2°
Star length percentage 55%
Pavilion depth percentage 43.1%
Pavilion angle 40.9°

- 0.87ct E color VS1



Total depth percentage 61.4%
Table size percentage 58%
Crown height percentage 14.8%
Crown angle 35.1°
Star length percentage 55%
Pavilion depth percentage 43.4%
Pavilion angle 41.0°

- 0.90ct D color VVS1



Total depth percentage 61.7%
Table size percentage 54%
Crown height percentage 15.6%
Crown angle 33.9°
Star length percentage 55%
Pavilion depth percentage 43.1%
Pavilion angle 40.8°

- 0.80ct D color VS1



Total depth percentage 61.6%
Table size percentage 55%
Crown height percentage 15.6%
Crown angle 34.7°
Star length percentage 55%
Pavilion depth percentage 42.9%
Pavilion angle 40.7°

- 0.92ct H color VS1



Total depth percentage 61.6%
Table size percentage 56%
Crown height percentage 15.4%
Crown angle 35.1°
Star length percentage 50%
Pavilion depth percentage 42.7%
Pavilion angle 40.6°

- 0.91ct H color VS1



Total depth percentage 62.0%
Table size percentage 57%
Crown height percentage 15.2%
Crown angle 35.5°
Star length percentage 50%
Pavilion depth percentage 43.0%
Pavilion angle 40.8°

- 0.97ct G color VS1



Total depth percentage 60.4%
Table size percentage 59%
Crown height percentage 14.2%
Crown angle 34.5°
Star length percentage 55%
Pavilion depth percentage 42.9%
Pavilion angle 40.7
 
Gee, if this is your short list, I''d hate to see the long one.
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Ok, based on numbers alone.

1. Much potential.

2. No

3. No

4. Much potential

5. Much potential, best so far.

6. No

7. No

8. No


I pick 5 based on this info alone.
 
I thought the last one looked good.. care to advice why it wasn''t one of the selected choices
 
Date: 5/19/2009 4:44:37 PM
Author: cinnamonroll
I thought the last one looked good.. care to advice why it wasn''t one of the selected choices
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The table is a little larger than the others for my personal taste, I think you would find Ellen would say the same. However it is a well cut diamond.
 
Date: 5/19/2009 4:47:14 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 5/19/2009 4:44:37 PM
Author: cinnamonroll
I thought the last one looked good.. care to advice why it wasn''t one of the selected choices
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The table is a little larger than the others for my personal taste, I think you would find Ellen would say the same. However it is a well cut diamond.
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Yes.
 
how would a larger table affect a diamond?

care to advice me?

I really am curious
 
Hi I have managed to obtain more information on the last piece (0.97). Please comment. Thanks. :)

one
Fluorescence: None
Girdle Thickness: Medium
Girdle Finish: Faceted
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
 
Date: 5/20/2009 10:02:12 AM
Author: rontoh
Hi I have managed to obtain more information on the last piece (0.97). Please comment. Thanks. :)

one
Fluorescence: None
Girdle Thickness: Medium
Girdle Finish: Faceted
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
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That all looks fine. The table size is slightly larger but needn''t be a dealbreaker if you like that one. Can you get an Idealscope image for the diamond?
 
Hi,

Thanks for all the reply. I''m still quite lost although a website link has been provided to me to tell me why a big table is not good... A table with 58% is consider good... but the other is only 1% higher... Any kind soul able to tell me more? TIA :)
 
Date: 5/20/2009 12:17:36 PM
Author: rontoh
Hi,

Thanks for all the reply. I''m still quite lost although a website link has been provided to me to tell me why a big table is not good... A table with 58% is consider good... but the other is only 1% higher... Any kind soul able to tell me more? TIA :)
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It can be a matter of taste, some here prefer a slightly smaller table ( 54- 57%) but like I said a 59% table isn''t necessarily a dealbreaker. Can you get an image for the diamond such as Idealscope?
 

It is not so much that a 59% table is better or worse, it is just that it produces a slightly different look. Some people like the look of a large table, others prefer the look of a smaller tabled diamond--seems that most here on PS prefer this look.


The hard part is that unless you can physically view diamonds with different table sizes in person to decide exactly what you want, then a 55-58% table falls is a "safe" zone that is very pleasing to most eyes. That 1% difference seems small, but with 59% you are starting to get in the "edge of the cliff" area where other factors also start to affect the diamond to a greater extent and more information in the form of photos, IS &/or ASET becomes very important to determine appearance and performance.

 
I do not have a pic on the diamonds :).... not even seen the diamonds yet
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Will try to see the diamonds next week as it is out of town...
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... very anxious of how it will look like... hence will try to compare with those with smaller table :)
 
Good luck. :)
 
Thank you... Hope things turn out to be good...

Any advise on what will be the rough estimation of the diamonds'' prices... For eg 0.8 and the 0.97? TIA :)
 
Do a pricescope of your diamond specs and see what pops up, depends on the quality of the cut too, H&A commands a premium. If this is from a brick store, probably another 10-15% over the online price is expected.
 
Date: 5/20/2009 12:17:36 PM
Author: rontoh
Hi,

Thanks for all the reply. I''m still quite lost although a website link has been provided to me to tell me why a big table is not good... A table with 58% is consider good... but the other is only 1% higher... Any kind soul able to tell me more? TIA :)
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I am just curious, why the last one intrigues you so. Is it the size?


And as Lorelei said, a larger table (with good angles) will just produce a slightly different look, a little more brilliance, a little less fire. Most really well cut stones run in the 55-57 area for table, but that doesn''t mean they are the only good ones.
 
i guess my personal opinion will be on the size... ooh well..

Does anyone have the diamcalc to help on this? the 0.97 one to be precise

I am wondering if Garry H can advice a little on this as well...

i want to download the diamcalc but my com refuses to obey...

if rontoh isn''t getting it! I maybe interested!!!
 
I have been in the market in search of a stone close to 1 carat diamond... so far the search is not fruitful. Hence the 0.97 diamond look appealling to me. :) The specs for this diamond overall not too bad too, other than the table size is 1% bigger than usual :)... the rest of the specs look v good to me... therefore im really v confused... :)
 
Date: 5/24/2009 9:21:40 AM
Author: rontoh
I have been in the market in search of a stone close to 1 carat diamond... so far the search is not fruitful. Hence the 0.97 diamond look appealling to me. :) The specs for this diamond overall not too bad too, other than the table size is 1% bigger than usual :)... the rest of the specs look v good to me... therefore im really v confused... :)
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The .97 has good angles so it could be a good looking diamond -like I said the table size needn''t be a deal breaker. Can you get an image such as Idealscope for this diamond please?
 
How can i have the image of the Idealscope? take a picture of it? :)... sad to say i do not have the instrument to do this... any kind soul able to lend it to me for a few days so that i can use it to see? if not please advise where can i get it. TIA :)
 
Date: 5/24/2009 9:46:26 AM
Author: rontoh
How can i have the image of the Idealscope? take a picture of it? :)... sad to say i do not have the instrument to do this... any kind soul able to lend it to me for a few days so that i can use it to see? if not please advise where can i get it. TIA :)
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If the diamond is with an online seller they might be able to get an Idealscope image for you. Alternatively if you can see the diamond in person, you can order a scope for $25 here.

http://www.ideal-scope.com/cart_zoom_item.asp?Id=2&ShowAdd=Y

https://www.pricescope.com/idealscope_indx.asp
 
Any idea if i purchase it when will i received it? Im based in Singapore, i will hope that there is a shop in Singapore that sells this :)
 
Date: 5/24/2009 11:06:15 AM
Author: rontoh
Any idea if i purchase it when will i received it? Im based in Singapore, i will hope that there is a shop in Singapore that sells this :)
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I am not sure - you would need to check on that but hopefully it wouldn''t take too long if you chose the fastest shipping method.
 
A larger table is not a bad thing unless it's so big that its reflection causes darkness inside the diamond (59% is not that) or the pavilion is deep enough to cause leakage/darkness under the table.

In popular measurement systems there is a "sweet spot" of crown and pavilion angle combos that work with a given table size. The biggest "sweet spots" occur for table sizes 55-57%. Diamonds with table sizes outside that range may have equal beauty but there are fewer possible crown and pavilion angle pairings which earn top appearance marks, therefore some people exercise more caution about them - especially with so many unknowns (lab reports give extremely limited info). In attractive diamonds larger table sizes can imply more brightness and less dispersion - but this is a matter of taste, not beauty.
 
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