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shafiu2

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Hey there guys,

I have been lurking around these forums and have found some very useful help with my search but now have some questions so decided to create an account. So I'm looking to propose to a 4 year girlfriend soon but I am still in my final year of uni. so I have a little tight budget in regards to the ring. We have been shopping a few times and have window browsed so I know what she's looking for:

1. Yellow Gold
2. Prefers something that doesn't stick up too high
3. Preference is on three stone

My total budget is around $1500 and we have been to Peoples and Zales and saw something we both really liked:

http://www.zales.com/product/index.jsp?productId=28543086&kpc=1&page=5
- This ring was total 1 c.t.w and in 14K gold and around I colour level what the person said so I assumed it would J-ish

I saw a ring very similar at diamonds11 jewlery on ebay which some people suggested on this site:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SI1-G-1-01Ct-Yellow-Gold-Round-Cut-Diamond-Jewelry-Three-Stone-Anniversary-Ring-/141311392617?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item20e6d0bb69&_uhb=1

What confuses me is that this is much cheaper yet a better diamond (possibly).

Any suggestions? Thanks
 
As many people here will tell you, even on a smaller budget, Zales is not the place to be.

Check out this option:

Vintage Deco Style Old Mine Engagement Ring
http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=store-product-detail&id=214

Close to your $1,500 budget. It may be possible to get the rhodium stripped away from the gold, giving it more of a yellow gold appearance.

You would really be able to be proud of that ring. It is not a compromise on quality and would reflect your girlfriend's preference.

Best of luck!
 
Yeah I do realize that I was just looking to get a feel for what style of ring she was looking for :)

The ring you suggested is almost exactly what I'm looking for however the yellow gold thing really throws it all off :(

I was also wandering what is your guys opinion on getting clarity enhanced diamonds due to my low budget. I plan on just using this ring to propose and then hopefully around our 3rd or 5th anniversary I can totally replace it with a better ring.
 
clarity enhancement is fine on any budget, as long as it is properly disclosed.

Just steer clear of diamonds which have been filled.

I would stick to heat treated and laser drilled/acid boiled only as these treatments are permanent.

All this lifetime warranty rubbish is nonsense on these "filled" diamonds.

you can make great savings online and get something very nice and better quality than what you have seen in BM shops.
 
proto|1402506690|3690981 said:
clarity enhancement is fine on any budget, as long as it is properly disclosed.

Just steer clear of diamonds which have been filled.

I would stick to heat treated and laser drilled/acid boiled only as these treatments are permanent.

All this lifetime warranty rubbish is nonsense on these "filled" diamonds.

you can make great savings online and get something very nice and better quality than what you have seen in BM shops.
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This is your opinion, not a fact. Also, I would never want a CE diamond for my e-ring even if it was going to be replaced in a few years. i would rather get a great 5 stone band or colored stone to maximize the budget.
 
I like it however I'm not fully convinced by the color. No idea how she will react to it :S

So ebay is a total no no?
 
i wouldnt buy on ebay... but thats just like my opinion.
 
shafiu2|1402514844|3691112 said:
I like it however I'm not fully convinced by the color. No idea how she will react to it :S

So ebay is a total no no?
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Not necessarily.

If you really know diamonds, and have lots of time to invest, eBay can be a viable option.

However, I would say in your situation, I would avoid eBay and work with someone who can provide something solid, without guess work.

Even if you don't like that ring's metal, you should reach out to Wink at High Performance Diamonds to see if he might have another option for you.

You could also go with the option of a simple solitaire setting (usually between $150 - $250 at most vendors), with a strong-performing stone, if you intend to upgrade in a few years. This stone could then be used as a focal point for a three-stone upgrade, or be used as a pendant, for another gift.

Here are a couple of options you would be able to pair with an affordable setting, to be close to your budget, with a very respectable final product:

.52ct, I, SI1
http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity-new&id=936

.53ct, I, VS2 (with fluorescence)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.533-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104069795020
 
shafiu2|1402503461|3690913 said:
My total budget is around $1500 and we have been to Peoples and Zales and saw something we both really liked:
http://www.zales.com/product/index.jsp?productId=28543086&kpc=1&page=5
- This ring was total 1 c.t.w and in 14K gold and around I colour level what the person said so I assumed it would J-ish
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A heads-up re these mall store type rings: check the clarity grading, even their their own, in-house staff is giving the diamonds no better than I1 - I2, virtually the bottom of barrel.
shafiu2|1402514844|3691112 said:
So ebay is a total no no?
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Especially for new engagement rings in the lower price ranges, eBay is shark-infested waters. But if you two are open to the idea of purchasing a pre-loved ring, eBay (and some other online resources) can be worthwhile . And because yellow gold isn't as currently popular as white gold and platinum, diamond rings in yellow gold are typically priced cheaper on the second-time-around market than their white gold counterparts.

shafiu2|1402506351|3690973 said:
I was also wandering what is your guys opinion on getting clarity enhanced diamonds due to my low budget. I plan on just using this ring to propose and then hopefully around our 3rd or 5th anniversary I can totally replace it with a better ring.
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There is a lot of antipathy towards clarity-enhanced diamonds here on the PS boards. And although a CE diamond wouldn't be my choice, I'm happy to offer this informational (and non-slamming) page from Good Old Gold:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Clarity/ClarityEnhancedDiamonds/
 
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2994238.htm
$1522 wire transfer H SI1 Expert Selection AGS Ideal 000 center stone that maxes your $1500 budget, but you'll have to ask how eyeclean it is. And how much "additional clouds not shown" affect the brilliance.

secondhand YG semimount with F/G sidestones (but no pave' on the shank)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESTATE-24CT-DIAMOND-14KT-YELLOW-GOLD-3-STONE-SEMI-MOUNT-ENGAGEMENT-RING-18367-/151321440753?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233b75f1f1 that you can make an offer on

All flaws considered, that will certainly get a better-cut center stone with lifetime trade-up and 1 year buyback options. You can probably work with ID Jewelry or B2C Jewels or even Good Old Gold to find you a center stone that fits the $1500 budget. I bought my own e-ring mounting, btw. The stone came as a solitaire ring from a pawn shop, and I changed the setting later and paid for that myself. That might be an option, you buy a great center stone and she gets the setting. (Just coloring outside the lines, again. LOL)
 
teobdl|1402524178|3691193 said:
http://www.idonowidont.com/diamonds/diamond-wedding-set-soldered

I don't think it's great quality, but it's a very nice price and you can use the money you save on the wedding or toward an upgrade in the future.

It's probably the right price for the quality and materials.
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And it will look ten million times better, roughly, once it's been cleaned.
 
I am being very upfront with you your budget is fine for your life situation with school etal. That being said in MY opinion you will never find a qualtiy 3 ring 14K yellow gold ring going to a retail store, or ebay. I think you should get a siimple solitare and when you can afford to reset the center stone. I'd much rather look at an excellent cut single stone than 3 mediocre clarity enchanced ones.

I just took a quick look at james allen. ideal cut is hard at that price but here is a set with excellent cut stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/shop_bag_billing/
 
teobdl|1402524178|3691193 said:
http://www.idonowidont.com/diamonds/diamond-wedding-set-soldered

I don't think it's great quality, but it's a very nice price and you can use the money you save on the wedding or toward an upgrade in the future.

It's probably the right price for the quality and materials.
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Nice find!
 
Yeah I am thinking of just getting approx. a $1400 diamond so I can use that as a center when I get the actual replacement and placing it in gold setting with maybe a few pave diamonds? Maybe total it out around $2000. Do you guys suggest getting the setting online or are the prices reasonable locally? (I live in Toronto if that makes any difference)
 
I have some great ideas for you!! (I think at least, but if I was your fiancee, these are the possibilities I would want :)

First off RUN don't walk away from jewelry stores like Zales, etc... Do not buy diamonds at those places you are asking to get ripped off and you can do so much better and get more for your money elsewhere...

Now here are the ideas I came up with for you...

Before I even get to option 1 I wanted to put this ring I found at the top for you to see :)

Here is a 3 STONE YELLOW DIAMOND in YELLOW GOLD!! PS I have bought from JuliaB and will buy from her again, her jewelry IS AMAZING!! She also offers a 5 day inspection period so you could return if you weren't happy, but she does not sell pieces that don't make people happy, her items are beautiful, I love her pieces!! But I think this really fits the bill- it's 3 STONE, YELLOW GOLD, AND DIAMOND, in your budget and is so unique!! And would be a great right hand ring, too, if you still did another ring later! I attached a pic so you can see right here, too, so pretty with the rose cuts!

https://www.etsy.com/listing/165508711/rose-cut-canary-yellow-diamond-in-yellow?ref=shop_home_active_24



Youtube video of ring:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D89yVJvrhSU&feature=youtu.be

Option 1: If you don't spring for that ring, I would agree with other posters who say that you should just do a solitaire and then you can remake that into a 3-stone ring at the time of your choosing after you are done with school, etc. I agree with the posters who said 1 great diamond is MUCH better than 3 mediocre ones... I definitely echo that advice

Here are some great options I think that are in your budget, they are all between $1,287 and $1,450 and there is no tax when you buy online and they offer a 2% discount if you do a money wire! (yes it is safe, I have bought 2 diamonds online before, and I bought from one of the companies below :)

This one below is a XXX (however it is Si2 you'd have to contact them to see how obvious the inclusions are, there are scope images in with the pic though) :
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4685441-0.83-carat-Round-diamond-K-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4509882-0.75-carat-Round-diamond-K-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4766191-0.77-carat-Round-diamond-K-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

This one below is a XXX:
http://www.brilliance.com/diamonds/0.75-carat-round-l-color-vs2-clarity-super-ideal-cut-gia-certified-loose-diamond-D12799178

This one below is XXX:
http://www.brilliance.com/node/2799178

This one below is XXX:
http://www.brilliance.com/diamonds/0.80-carat-round-l-color-si1-clarity-super-ideal-cut-gia-certified-loose-diamond-D12880665

http://www.brilliance.com/diamonds/0.81-carat-round-l-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-gia-certified-loose-diamond-D12900618

NOW I found you K & L colors for 2 reasons, one reason you are not going to get close in this size with any other colors, and the other reason is they will look GREAT and look even whiter in yellow gold and it's so awesome your fiancee wants yellow gold b/c you can get a great K or L color larger stone in those colors and they look great and white in yellow gold... BTW my avatar pic is a L color diamond and as you can see it is pretty white in the sunlight! But definitely a K or L color will look fantastic in yellow gold!

This shows you that you can get a nice GIA round diamond, even a XXX one for under $1,500!! This would not happen at Zales or any brick and mortar store! When you buy GIA stone you know that there is value attached to it, when you buy some random diamond it is a crapshoot (unless you are like a trained gemologist who knows what to look for) but really if it is being sold at a brick and mortar store it is likely worth next to nothing and their "certificates" are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Now for a setting! Here are some options from ebay seller JeweleryHoo2, they are based in China, but I actually read about them from other pricescope members who had great rings made by them and their feedback score is 100%, this is the best bang for your buck option. Unless you are getting a hand forged or CAD setting made by a jeweler in the states, all the premade settings are going to be made in China anyway like everything else. I have also read from other pricescope members that used Lord of Gem Rings on ebay, a seller also based in China, but I looked on their page and didn't see ones that I thought fit what you were going for but you can check them out, too. You are just cutting out the middle man by buying straight from them and saving yourself $$. I was actually just told by my jewelry repair person that if you are not having a custom ring made, buy all your premade settings from ebay in China as long as they have all positive feedback...(Now, I would NEVER buy a diamond from an ebay seller though, some people do but I would NOT recommend it at all, especially in your situation)

Below is an emerald ring, however I love the setting, and it is inexpensive enough so that you can just have a local jeweler remove the emerald and replace the stone with a diamond you choose:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14k-Gold-1-05ct-Natural-Round-Colombian-Emerald-Full-Cut-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-/371075139521?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item5665cd47c1

Love this setting! Perfect for size of stone you are looking at as well...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5mm-Round-14k-Gold-Pave-Diamonds-Engagement-Semi-Mount-Ring-Free-Shipping-/371008902349?pt=US_Engagement_Ring_Settings&hash=item5661da94cd

OPTION 2: Colored gemstone engagement ring (if Prince William with a sapphire diamond halo engagement ring did it you can, too, but seriously there are very nice colored stone e-rings and if you plan on upgrading later this is a great option! :)

Speaking of Wills & Kate this ring below is also from JuliaB Jewelery on Etsy and is gorgeous I don't know how it hasn't been snatched up already!!--

https://www.etsy.com/listing/185660341/ceylon-violet-untreted-sapphire-in-white?ref=shop_home_active_3

Here is an aquamarine ring in yellow gold double halo (aquas are much cheaper than sapphires though and are treated) but still a pretty ring in YG...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-38CT-Natural-Blue-Aqamarine-14K-Yellow-Gold-Diamond-Engagement-Gem-Ring-/371075121876?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item5665cd02d4

ALSO if you see either a diamond if you are going solitaire route to turn into 3 stone later, you like or a ring you like from JuliaB Jewelry PLEASE contact either place right away and put it on hold, JuliaB also will do a payment plan and you could split into 2 payments just ask her when you email her, she is so great she will get right back to you and answer all questions. But I have read that sometimes other lurkers will snap up things that are posted on forums sometimes, so at least if you want to think about something put it on hold! :) Good luck you will come up with something great to do I'm sure! :appl: Let us know what you decide to do!! And yes all options I gave you will ship to Canada :)

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Thank you for your wonderful suggestions. However I'm sure she'd prefer the white diamond (clearless). So based on what everyone's posted I'm pretty sure I've picked up on the final design.

Going to go for a white gold Halo setting, as someone suggested just buy it off ebay because we were at a local dealer asking about getting it in various metals and it accidentally slipped from her that they get the settings from overseas as well so why not just cut out the middle man. Looking for a single halo setting now which is approx $400 and then going to get a around 0.5 carat diamond from bluenile or online under $1400-1500 and just get it put into the setting at a local jeweller.

Something along the lines of:

http://www.bluenile.com/ca/diamond-search?pt=setform&track=NavDiaSeaRD#diamonds_pid=LD04299300

and for the setting;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emerald-7-9mm-SOLID-14K-W-GOLD-DIAMOND-SETTING-SEMI-RING-EMGAGEMENT-MOUNT-R0014-/181433022525?pt=US_Engagement_Ring_Settings&hash=item2a3e40383d

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14K-White-Gold-Semi-Mount-Engagement-Pave-42ct-Diamond-Ring-Setting-6-5mm-round-/111135063425?pt=US_Engagement_Ring_Settings&hash=item19e02a7d81
 
I love that you are going for a halo setting! Love halo rings and it will amplify the center stone however I want to caution you, the first setting you selected and posted the link to is for an emerald cut diamond that is 7mmx9mm rectangle. If you are getting a round diamond like you posted you absolutely cannot get that setting, it won't fit, the .5 ct stone you are looking at is at the widest point 5.33mm, it cannot go in an emerald cut double halo setting that you are considering, no jeweler will be able to make that work (round peg in a rectangle hole that is way too big for it)

The next setting you posted is very nice however it states that it is made for a center stone that is 6.5 mm so I personally think your stone would be too small for that one, there would be open space around it, although the shape is excellent. I am hoping others who know more than I will comment on putting a 5.33x5.29 in that one for a 6.5mm. Also on that one be aware that it lists the clarity as Si1-Si3 and I have read that the overseas setting makers are notorious for overstating the clarity on their sidestones, so you may end up wanting a jeweler to replace them with better clarity ones (totally up to you when you see it) I was quoted $5 per stone for that, that one has a lot of melee, but something to consider if they come in not as sparkly as you hoped. I am definitely glad you are going to save the $$ and buy overseas (I told you to do that and I stand by it, as my jeweler told me to do it since that's where they get the premades from, and that's what they told you, too) however if you find a setting that is listed VS quality you may be happier with them, because they will prob be Si1 quality when they are listed VS.... Whereas if they are listed down to Si3 then my guess is that they are going to come in l1s...

But imperative you don't get that emerald cut double halo setting, while you have a great eye and it's beautiful it won't work on a round or a stone of your size so I want to save you from being out a lot of $$ and disappointment! And search pricescope forums of reputable vendors for this too incase you have any issues, LOGR (Lord Of Gem Rings) is one that I have read many PSers have been happy with and also JewelryHoo2. (You have to search on google b/c ebay doesn't let you do a store search to my knowledge which is so annoying) and also make sure it's a setting for a round (or yes you could get a setting for a square cushion, rounds in cushion settings look beautiful, like the 2nd one you chose! But you cannot get an emerald rectangle for it, not going to work) Keep us posted! :appl: Make sure you find setting that lists center stone size 5-6mm, or even 4-5mm (I think that could work smaller, others chime in on this please, I have a 1.15ct princess in a cushion halo meant for 1ct and I like that I see virtually no space so I like that mine is a tight fit and makes center stone look larger! Jeweler was annoyed said it was tough to set though lol)
 
Ops yeah I just quickly searched and was just showing the style of Halo I'm going for :$

Do you have a photo of how yours turned out. Also do you suggest going with a round or a princess or cushion cut for a square most likely single Halo setting. Also how much do local jewellers charge to just put the diamond into a setting.

Also she has long fingers and her size is a 6.5 so I'm hoping the ring will suit her really well :D I'm excited :love:
 
Oh phew haha, I was scared for a second but I get it now!! I have a princess in a cushion halo (I like the cushion halo much better than the princess halos because of the softer rounded edges, and I have v-prongs so it softens the princess even more) This is my original e-ring (which I still have) stats are: G color, 1.15 ct and VS2 clarity, my finger size is 5.5... It needs to be re-rhodium plated big time though so the white gold is not as shiny as it should be and it desperately needs a good cleaning but here are the pics :) Mine is only a 1.15 ct but I think it really seems a lot larger/ has a larger presence on my hand with the halo, which I love.

Also I bought this diamond and setting before I ever heard of pricescope (thankfully I figured enough to get GIA), but had I known then what I know now I would have gone way down in color and down to an Si1 in clarity to get more for the $$ :) But I still love it anyway. Fast forward to our 6 year anniversary and 3 kids later the one I have in my avatar is an L cushion (faint brown) which is not set yet, but I love to stare at it anyway until it gets set when we finally have some more funds... My idea not the husbands' lol... But I love them both they are both special to me, but if I had to choose I would choose my original because it is sentimental to me and I still love it after all these years and know I always will.. But now I will have a different look on different hands, I plan to use rose gold in the setting for the new one :)

But here are some pics of my princess cut in cushion halo, this was a premade setting by Peter Lam but they don't make it anymore I looked for someone else, but they make similar and the one you found was very similar! I really love halos, they make center stones and ring presence seem so much larger!!

My guess is it would be like $100-$150 to set the stone, maybe less though, I got the center repaired one time and it was $150 but he did a lot of work to make it tighter etc so it would not come out and I think I got it rhodium plated again then too, actually I did, so I think it should definitely be less actually...

My diamond also sits high in my setting which I LOVE (I don't normally go for that look, but since I did a princess in a cushion setting I think it looks better sitting higher with the v-prongs that protect the corners and soften the look of the corners, easier to clean this way, too, and lets more light in. *If you decide to get a princess or cushion cut, know that your $$ will go further as round brilliants are the most common and popular cuts and are ALWAYS the most expensive, so if you choose a fancy shape you will get more bang for your buck that way, too! BUT whatever you think she will like is most important for sure!! But just something to make you aware of, but if you go for the square cushion halo--- a round, a princess, or a square cushion itself will all look great in it! SO glad to hear you are so excited, exciting time for sure!! Really whatever you think she will like best! I just love halos so IMO you can't go wrong with that! =)

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Also I poked around online and found you this! Here is a round in cushion halo, it is a .75 ct. round AND the finger size of the girl is 6.5 so this should give you a real idea of how this option would look like, and it looks amazinggg! So whatever shape you go with here is finger coverage with a halo on a 6.5 finger, looks AWESOME!!

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Hey, so I spent the last few days figuring out the setting and the diamond. So what I've finalized is a square Halo like this:





However with a slightly thicker band and in yellow gold.

So for the diamond I was looking at getting one of the following:

http://www.solomonbrothers.com/DiamondDetail.aspx?sku=73683FF7&affiliate=9318613A-AD0C-4530-A456-0409DFEFB8DE&utm_source=PriceScope

http://www.brilliance.com/diamonds/0.61-carat-round-l-color-vs2-clarity-super-ideal-cut-gia-certified-loose-diamond-D12797235

http://www.brilliance.com/node/2797235

So I'm looking to keep it below the $1000 mark for the diamond :$

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That is such a great setting love it! You are getting them to do a custom order so it will obv. be yellow gold and so you will be able to tell them the exact mm size of the center round once you order it right? (just that the size shown in the pic on the hand looks way too big to be for a .60-.65 ct stone)

Also let them know maybe to do lower color sidestones for the halo since you are getting an L center (I love that idea btw!!) Just so the sidestones aren't whiter than the center, if they have K/L sidestones for the halo I think that would be a great idea IMO, but it's a great setting you chose, and the center stone you pick will be a sparkler so it will look great...

About the stones you listed I wouldn't choose any of them and I found similar ones from Brilliance for you instead... Whatever you do, please don't go for the Solomon Brothers one at all- that is only listed as a good cut, so it will be a poor quality round and will not sparkle a lot so please don't go for that one...

The 2 others from Brilliance that you listed were both XXX so that is great, however both had no fluorescence and I would highly recommend you get a stone that has fluorescence since you are getting an L color stone (I love L's, but just having the fluorescence is the way to go especially in lower color grades, it will really brighten it up in the sunlight and make it extra stunning) Fluorescence is definitely a good thing to have in stones I and below, so I posted you 2 xxx options from Brilliance that both have fluorescence. If you buy from Brilliance or have any questions, ask for Anthony, he was really a great person there, very helpful. Also Brilliance offers a 2% or 3% discount if you wire the money for payment, so that is another way to get some $$ back.

So here are the two rounds:
Only $1,086 w/ medium fluorescence (I know, I know the budget, but it is only $86 more :)
http://www.brilliance.com/node/2903600

Only $905 w/ faint fluorescence
http://www.brilliance.com/diamonds/0.61-carat-round-l-color-vs2-clarity-super-ideal-cut-gia-certified-loose-diamond-D12861607

That setting is going to look so great, an L color in yellow gold halo will look stunning, the yellow gold will really compliment the stone!! She will love it!!

Here is an old thread of someone with a round in a beautiful square halo that looks just like the one you found... Thought I'd share for you it looks great...
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/round-brillant-with-a-square-halo.147651/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/round-brillant-with-a-square-halo.147651/[/URL]

Whatever you decide, just don't get the Soloman Bros. one, it is not going to be a well cut stone at all and won't sparkle a lot (I can't believe they are asking that much for it compared to the other ones we found that are much better and all XXXs! But really fluorescence is the way to go for sure on an IMO on an L color, (both my diamonds have medium fluorescence and it is not milky in any way- that is only a risk with "very strong" fluorescence, and even then it is said to be rare, but having fluorescence in a lower colored stone is very desirable and a big plus) Good luck keep us posted! Happy diamond buying! :appl:
 
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