need help judging ec IS & ASET

[layla5]

I have learned an awful lot from reading all the posts and tutorials on ps, but I'm still not confident in my ability to actually read the IS or ASET. I saw the actual picture of the diamond which I LOVE, but I want to know if the ASET agrees because I thought that is supposed to help me figure out how it performs in real life. Any help would be much appreciated. My budget is around $1500 This is a GIA 1.19 Q VVS1 for $1666. What do you think?
Measurements: 7.51 x 4.91 x 3.49
Depth: 71.1
Table: 69%
Girdle: Slightly Thick to Thick
Culet: None
Polish: Very good
Symmetry: Very good
Fluorescence: medium blue

I'm hoping that I added the pic correctly....

 

[layla5]

Here is the Idealscope.

 

[layla5]

This is the other diamond I''m comparing it to, but it doesn''t have IS or ASET. Here are the GIA specs:

1.15 cts.
Clarity : VVS2
Color : K
GIA SPECIFICATIONS
Measurements: 6.19 x 5.19 x 3.74
Depth: 72.1
Table: 64%
Polish: Very good
Symmetry: Very good
Fluorescence: F

 

[layla5]

Here is the original 1.19 ct. diamond that I was talking about earlier. I really, really appreciate any help that I can get. I''ve been agonizing over this decision for almost 6 months, and have finally got it narrowed down to 2.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/6/2010 11:44:19 PM
Author:layla5
I have learned an awful lot from reading all the posts and tutorials on ps, but I'm still not confident in my ability to actually read the IS or ASET. I saw the actual picture of the diamond which I LOVE, but I want to know if the ASET agrees because I thought that is supposed to help me figure out how it performs in real life. Any help would be much appreciated. My budget is around $1500 This is a GIA 1.19 Q VVS1 for $1666. What do you think?
Measurements: 7.51 x 4.91 x 3.49
Depth: 71.1
Table: 69%
Girdle: Slightly Thick to Thick
Culet: None
Polish: Very good
Symmetry: Very good
Fluorescence: medium blue

I'm hoping that I added the pic correctly....

Hi Layla

The images for the first show a distinct dark band running around the table, ask if the stone looks this way in normal viewing conditions. The stone also looks as if it isn't level in the photos or possibly it could be the stone itself is uneven, again check that. Can you get the crown height for the diamond too please?

A Q colour is going to be definitely tinted, is that ok with you?

Its hard to tell much about the second just going by the photo but it appears to be worth further investigation as far as I can tell, again check with the centre darkness if the stone lightens up in that area once its away from the camera in real life viewing conditions. Its a little deep but that needn't be a deal breaker, try if you can to get the crown height and see if the seller can provide preferably an ASET but if not an Idealscope image of this diamond. This stone being a K colour will also show some tint but not as much as the Q colour.

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

Layla,

You are looking at two stones, and I hardly find them comparable.

One is rather long (rectangular), while the other is much more chubby. It gives two totally different looks, and what do you prefer?

One is a Q, the other is K: That is quite a difference, and again, what do you truly prefer?

As for the ASET/IS, I also find it impossible to judge them on an emerald. All depends on how each stone reacts to the stone moving, which is impossible to see in the face-up-picture.

If you are working with a vendor, who knows his stuff, and who is trustworthy, you can better ask them to advice you.

Live long,

 

[layla5]

Date: 5/7/2010 5:45:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 5/6/2010 11:44:19 PM
Author:layla5
I have learned an awful lot from reading all the posts and tutorials on ps, but I''m still not confident in my ability to actually read the IS or ASET. I saw the actual picture of the diamond which I LOVE, but I want to know if the ASET agrees because I thought that is supposed to help me figure out how it performs in real life. Any help would be much appreciated. My budget is around $1500 This is a GIA 1.19 Q VVS1 for $1666. What do you think?
Measurements: 7.51 x 4.91 x 3.49
Depth: 71.1
Table: 69%
Girdle: Slightly Thick to Thick
Culet: None
Polish: Very good
Symmetry: Very good
Fluorescence: medium blue

I''m hoping that I added the pic correctly....

Hi Layla

The images for the first show a distinct dark band running around the table, ask if the stone looks this way in normal viewing conditions. The stone also looks as if it isn''t level in the photos or possibly it could be the stone itself is uneven, again check that. Can you get the crown height for the diamond too please?

A Q colour is going to be definitely tinted, is that ok with you?

Its hard to tell much about the second just going by the photo but it appears to be worth further investigation as far as I can tell, again check with the centre darkness if the stone lightens up in that area once its away from the camera in real life viewing conditions. Its a little deep but that needn''t be a deal breaker, try if you can to get the crown height and see if the seller can provide preferably an ASET but if not an Idealscope image of this diamond. This stone being a K colour will also show some tint but not as much as the Q colour.

I''ll get back to you when I hear back from them.

As far as the color goes, I decided that I''d rather get a clear, better cut diamond than be hung up on color. As long as it is bright, I don''t mind either Q or K.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/7/2010 10:26:50 AM
Author: layla5

Date: 5/7/2010 5:45:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 5/6/2010 11:44:19 PM
Author:layla5
I have learned an awful lot from reading all the posts and tutorials on ps, but I''m still not confident in my ability to actually read the IS or ASET. I saw the actual picture of the diamond which I LOVE, but I want to know if the ASET agrees because I thought that is supposed to help me figure out how it performs in real life. Any help would be much appreciated. My budget is around $1500 This is a GIA 1.19 Q VVS1 for $1666. What do you think?
Measurements: 7.51 x 4.91 x 3.49
Depth: 71.1
Table: 69%
Girdle: Slightly Thick to Thick
Culet: None
Polish: Very good
Symmetry: Very good
Fluorescence: medium blue

I''m hoping that I added the pic correctly....

Hi Layla

The images for the first show a distinct dark band running around the table, ask if the stone looks this way in normal viewing conditions. The stone also looks as if it isn''t level in the photos or possibly it could be the stone itself is uneven, again check that. Can you get the crown height for the diamond too please?

A Q colour is going to be definitely tinted, is that ok with you?

Its hard to tell much about the second just going by the photo but it appears to be worth further investigation as far as I can tell, again check with the centre darkness if the stone lightens up in that area once its away from the camera in real life viewing conditions. Its a little deep but that needn''t be a deal breaker, try if you can to get the crown height and see if the seller can provide preferably an ASET but if not an Idealscope image of this diamond. This stone being a K colour will also show some tint but not as much as the Q colour.

I''ll get back to you when I hear back from them.

As far as the color goes, I decided that I''d rather get a clear, better cut diamond than be hung up on color. As long as it is bright, I don''t mind either Q or K.

Let us know how you get on. As for the Q colour, it might have a distinct yellow tone, it won''t look like a white diamond.

 

[layla5]

Date: 5/7/2010 8:14:53 AM
Author: Paul-Antwerp
Layla,

You are looking at two stones, and I hardly find them comparable.

One is rather long (rectangular), while the other is much more chubby. It gives two totally different looks, and what do you prefer?

One is a Q, the other is K: That is quite a difference, and again, what do you truly prefer?

As for the ASET/IS, I also find it impossible to judge them on an emerald. All depends on how each stone reacts to the stone moving, which is impossible to see in the face-up-picture.

If you are working with a vendor, who knows his stuff, and who is trustworthy, you can better ask them to advice you.

Live long,

I actually prefer the classic rectangular shape of the 1.19. To be honest, I think that I would prefer the Q because I think I will enjoy seeing the faint yellow tint, but I'm not too picky about the color.

Now, that I think more on it, I really do prefer the 1.19. I think what I am really asking is how much the darkness in the 1.19 will negatively affect the look of the diamond, and whether or not I can truly expect a diamond to have less darkness (given all the other variables [carat, color, clarity] stay constant) for my price point.

In other words, is this a good deal, and a beautiful, bright diamond?

 

[tyty333]

I know nothing about emeralds but that chubby little K is just adorable

.

 

[layla5]

Date: 5/7/2010 10:28:10 AM
Author: Lorelei


Let us know how you get on. As for the Q colour, it might have a distinct yellow tone, it won''t look like a white diamond.

He e-mailed me on the 1.19 this morning, and let me know that it is not crooked and the crown height is 12.8%. I know that it won''t be white. Actually, I wish it didn''t have the strong blue flourescence, so I could see more yellow.

 

[layla5]

lol, it certainly is...

Date: 5/7/2010 11:29:27 AM
Author: tyty333
I know nothing about emeralds but that chubby little K is just adorable

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I''ve fallen in love with the emerald cuts.

There''s just something so beautiful about their simplicity.

 

[yssie]

Date: 5/7/2010 11:29:27 AM
Author: tyty333
I know nothing about emeralds but that chubby little K is just adorable

.

It really is

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/7/2010 3:37:42 PM
Author: layla5

Date: 5/7/2010 10:28:10 AM
Author: Lorelei


Let us know how you get on. As for the Q colour, it might have a distinct yellow tone, it won''t look like a white diamond.

He e-mailed me on the 1.19 this morning, and let me know that it is not crooked and the crown height is 12.8%. I know that it won''t be white. Actually, I wish it didn''t have the strong blue flourescence, so I could see more yellow.

Thanks Layla. What did the vendor say about those dark bands around the table?

 

[layla5]

Date: 5/8/2010 5:12:44 AM
Author: Lorelei

Thanks Layla. What did the vendor say about those dark bands around the table?

"The' band' is completely compatible and commensurate with the shape. In the ASET and IS, it is indicative of what is being directly refracted back to the eye."

 

[Karl_K]

Date: 5/8/2010 10:14:52 AM
Author: layla5

Date: 5/8/2010 5:12:44 AM

Author: Lorelei


Thanks Layla. What did the vendor say about those dark bands around the table?

'The' band' is completely compatible and commensurate with the shape. In the ASET and IS, it is indicative of what is being directly refracted back to the eye.'

What you want to know is does it stay dark in that area when tilted side to side a few degrees or does that area flash bright.
If it does not flash bright a few times by 10 degrees tilt that diamond has issues.

 

[layla5]

Date: 5/8/2010 2:30:13 PM
Author: Karl_K

Date: 5/8/2010 10:14:52 AM
Author: layla5

Date: 5/8/2010 5:12:44 AM

Author: Lorelei


Thanks Layla. What did the vendor say about those dark bands around the table?

''The'' band'' is completely compatible and commensurate with the shape. In the ASET and IS, it is indicative of what is being directly refracted back to the eye.''

What you want to know is does it stay dark in that area when tilted side to side a few degrees or does that area flash bright.
If it does not flash bright a few times by 10 degrees tilt that diamond has issues.

Thank you Karl. That''s a lot easier for me as a layman to understand too.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/8/2010 2:30:13 PM
Author: Karl_K

Date: 5/8/2010 10:14:52 AM
Author: layla5

Date: 5/8/2010 5:12:44 AM

Author: Lorelei


Thanks Layla. What did the vendor say about those dark bands around the table?

''The'' band'' is completely compatible and commensurate with the shape. In the ASET and IS, it is indicative of what is being directly refracted back to the eye.''

What you want to know is does it stay dark in that area when tilted side to side a few degrees or does that area flash bright.
If it does not flash bright a few times by 10 degrees tilt that diamond has issues.

Thats it exactly, ask how the stone looks once its away from the camera in normal viewing conditions, does it stay dark at any angle of viewing or do those dark areas light up? If those areas stay dark then as Karl says, there are issues and it will probably look dark all the time in those areas and thats what you will see.

 

[layla5]

This was the response I got: "The diamond flashes brightly when tilted and rocked side to sie[sic]."

It makes me happy enough to buy it.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/9/2010 7:16:16 PM
Author: layla5
This was the response I got: ''The diamond flashes brightly when tilted and rocked side to sie[sic].''

It makes me happy enough to buy it.

Congrats! Let us know how you like it!