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I wanted to look at Whiteflash ACAs but the browser tells me it's dangerous to visit their site. Should I just go ahead and look anyway? Also, I noticed on Brian Gavin's website that his sample inventory of diamonds are under 1.2 carats. What do PSers advie in this situation, if a customer can't find any diamonds in stock?

I am looking for RBs between 1.25-1.50, ideal cut, hearts and arrows, color between F and H, VS1-VS2. So far this is what I found and trusted. Not sure if all the other details fall into place for a good deal of a diamond.

http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/5806/

Shape: Round
Carat Weight: 1.38ct
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
GIA Cut Grade: Excellent
AGS Light Performance: Ideal
Optical Symmetry: Superior
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Faint
Culet: None
Lab Report: GIA
Lab Report #: 7102143662
In House: Yes
Width: 7.10mm
Length: 7.17mm
Depth: 4.42mm
Table Percentage: 57.29%
Depth Percentage: 62.00%
Crown ∠: 34.44°
Pavilion ∠: 40.96°

Also this one from Infinity Diamond:
http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=224

SHAPE Round brilliant
WEIGHT 1.36 Ct.
MEASUREMENTS 7.13 - 7.18 x 4.36 mm
COLOR F
CLARITY VS2
CUT GRADE Ideal (0)
LIGHT PERFORMANCE Ideal
POLISH - SYMMETRY Ideal - Ideal
FLUORESCENCE Very Strong Blue
GRADING REPORT AGS 0009098702 VIEW
ITEM ID HPD4558
Table Size 57.2 %
Total Depth 61.0 %
Pavilion Angle 40.8 °
Crown Angle 34.2
 
Ditto.
 
Date: 5/13/2009 12:39:24 AM
Author:pannini
I wanted to look at Whiteflash ACAs but the browser tells me it''s dangerous to visit their site. Should I just go ahead and look anyway? Also, I noticed on Brian Gavin''s website that his sample inventory of diamonds are under 1.2 carats. What do PSers advie in this situation, if a customer can''t find any diamonds in stock?

I am looking for RBs between 1.25-1.50, ideal cut, hearts and arrows, color between F and H, VS1-VS2. So far this is what I found and trusted. Not sure if all the other details fall into place for a good deal of a diamond.

http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/5806/


Also this one from Infinity Diamond:
http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=224
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Just give them a call and tell them what you''re looking for.
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Ditto on both of these stones being nice, but you need to love the fluoro on the HPD stone.
 
Pannini, it seems a few sites are getting this error message, unfortunately.

We are working with our hosting server and Google to resolve the notification issue, but it is perfectly safe to visit our site in the interim.
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Thanks so much everyone. Just got some responses from Whiteflash and Lesley from Brian Gavin:
How does this compare with the two I listed in the original post?

GoodoldGold was $13,073 , and Infinity was $13,431

And yes, Lorelei, I do love the blue fluorescence. Is that a matter of preference and not a sign of quality of the diamond?



$11,454 1.328 ct H VVS2 Whiteflash ACA
Report: AGS
. Shape: Whiteflash ACA
. Carat: 1.328
. Depth %: 61.3
. Table %: 56.4
. Crown Angle: 34.7
. Crown %: 15.1
. Star : 55
. Pavilion Angle: 40.7
. Pavilion %: 42.8
. Lower Girdle %: 77
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 7.05-7.08X4.34
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible .

$13,412 1.254 ct G VVS2 Whiteflash ACA
Report: AGS
. Shape: Whiteflash ACA
. Carat: 1.254
. Depth %: 61.8
. Table %: 54.7
. Crown Angle: 34.4
. Crown %: 15.6
. Star : 53
. Pavilion Angle: 40.9
. Pavilion %: 43.2
. Lower Girdle %: 78
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 6.91-6.96X4.29
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

OR:
Brian Gavin Signature
1.307 H VS1 for $8390
depth: 60.7%
table: 56.5%
crown angle: 34.7 degrees
pavilion angle: 40.7 degrees
girdle: thin to medium
polish and symmetry: Ideal, Ideal
Light Performance Grade: AGS0

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Fluoro is definitely a personal preference and doesn''t affect the quality of the stone at all.

The numbers on all three recent posts look good. VVS clarity might be overkill, as you will not be able to tell the difference between VS2 & VVS with the naked eye and you are paying a premium for VVS clarity.

If that price on the Brian Gavin diamond is correct, I''d jump at that and use the savings to have him make a custom ring!!
 
Does a G or H in color make a huge difference? I am personally leaning towards a G but notice the price difference of that with an H. Will an H show up on a setting with a pave of F/G diamonds?
 
I don''t think it will make a difference, at least no to me, quite color insensitive. The usual recommendation for side stones is 1-2 color grades off.
 
I''m in stone cold''s camp on color (my fiance''s diamond is an I and neither of us notice) A well cut H stone will still be very white.

Have you had a chance to look at GOG''s video on diamond color yet?

http://vimeo.com/3288695

Very informative and will give you a better idea of where your personal "color threshhold" is.
 
Date: 5/13/2009 11:57:20 AM
Author: pannini
Thanks so much everyone. Just got some responses from Whiteflash and Lesley from Brian Gavin:
How does this compare with the two I listed in the original post?

GoodoldGold was $13,073 , and Infinity was $13,431

And yes, Lorelei, I do love the blue fluorescence. Is that a matter of preference and not a sign of quality of the diamond?



$11,454 1.328 ct H VVS2 Whiteflash ACA
Report: AGS
. Shape: Whiteflash ACA
. Carat: 1.328
. Depth %: 61.3
. Table %: 56.4
. Crown Angle: 34.7
. Crown %: 15.1
. Star : 55
. Pavilion Angle: 40.7
. Pavilion %: 42.8
. Lower Girdle %: 77
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 7.05-7.08X4.34
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible .

$13,412 1.254 ct G VVS2 Whiteflash ACA
Report: AGS
. Shape: Whiteflash ACA
. Carat: 1.254
. Depth %: 61.8
. Table %: 54.7
. Crown Angle: 34.4
. Crown %: 15.6
. Star : 53
. Pavilion Angle: 40.9
. Pavilion %: 43.2
. Lower Girdle %: 78
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 6.91-6.96X4.29
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

OR:
Brian Gavin Signature
1.307 H VS1 for $8390
depth: 60.7%
table: 56.5%
crown angle: 34.7 degrees
pavilion angle: 40.7 degrees
girdle: thin to medium
polish and symmetry: Ideal, Ideal
Light Performance Grade: AGS0
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Yes, it seems to be that way that fluorescence is a preference thing, personally I consider it a bonus in a diamond. All of the above diamonds have great potential. Do you have the images for these, Idealscope and ASET?
 
Date: 5/13/2009 12:30:11 PM
Author: pannini
Does a G or H in color make a huge difference? I am personally leaning towards a G but notice the price difference of that with an H. Will an H show up on a setting with a pave of F/G diamonds?
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The usual advice is to keep side and centre stones within 2 colour grades of each other so you should be fine with H colour.
 
Wow, you''re right, and according to the GOG video, color is indicative of rarity not beauty! So... sorry if I''m still indecisive here if you were all to choose one diamond for it''s overall beauty/quality and value, which one would you go for?

The Brian Gavin (great value)

OR

The Infinity Diamond (pretty flourescence but steep price)

OR

GoodOldGold (steep price, but almost 1.4 carat, but how does it compare to Brian''s and Infinity''s?)

I appreciate your help here. I''ve been staring at these specs for hours and they start to look the same to me.

It would be nice to use the $ I save to go towards the Leon Mege I''m hoping to get.
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I would go with BG. You won''t notice the size and color difference. They are all very well cut.
 
Date: 5/13/2009 1:06:47 PM
Author: pannini
Wow, you''re right, and according to the GOG video, color is indicative of rarity not beauty! So... sorry if I''m still indecisive here if you were all to choose one diamond for it''s overall beauty/quality and value, which one would you go for?

The Brian Gavin (great value)

OR

The Infinity Diamond (pretty flourescence but steep price)

OR

GoodOldGold (steep price, but almost 1.4 carat, but how does it compare to Brian''s and Infinity''s?)

I appreciate your help here. I''ve been staring at these specs for hours and they start to look the same to me.

It would be nice to use the $ I save to go towards the Leon Mege I''m hoping to get.
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My choice would be Brian in this case.
 
I second L''s opinion, go with BGD

A few years ago I bought from WF, of course thru Lesley.

Recently bought diamond studs for the daughter, thru Lesley, of course.

They are beautiful and great value.
 
BR>Brian Gavin Signature

1.307 H VS1 for $8390

depth: 60.7%

table: 56.5%

crown angle: 34.7 degrees

pavilion angle: 40.7 degrees

girdle: thin to medium

polish and symmetry: Ideal, Ideal

Light Performance Grade: AGS0
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Yes, it seems to be that way that fluorescence is a preference thing, personally I consider it a bonus in a diamond. All of the above diamonds have great potential. Do you have the images for these, Idealscope and ASET?[/quote]


I do have images of the Brian Gavin, here:

ASET_AGS-10237701.jpg
 
idealscope BG Diamond

IDS_AGS-10237701.jpg
 
Gorgeous!!!
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Ooh La La!
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What are you waiting for!!
 
I would also go with the BG diamond.
 
Date: 5/13/2009 1:10:26 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
I would go with BG. You won''t notice the size and color difference. They are all very well cut.
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Hi Stone-cold,

So a 1.306 and a 1.38 won''t be much of a difference? Just curious about that. Maybe I''m infatuated with size, I need to get over that... would love to be convinced to get over the tiny size difference. LoL.
 
Date: 5/13/2009 1:34:28 PM
Author: pannini
Date: 5/13/2009 1:10:26 PM

Author: Stone-cold11
I would go with BG. You won't notice the size and color difference. They are all very well cut.
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Hi Stone-cold,

So a 1.306 and a 1.38 won't be much of a difference? Just curious about that. Maybe I'm infatuated with size, I need to get over that... would love to be convinced to get over the tiny size difference. LoL.
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With both ideally cut stone, you should be looking at the face-up dimensions. The 1.306c has a diameter of 7.07-7.09mm while the 1.38c has a diameter of 7.10-7.17mm, so the difference in average diameter is about 0.06mm, now go look at a ruler and see if you can see a difference in 0.1mm marking? See how small that is?

Basically, the heavier the stone is, the less likely you will notice the difference in face-up size for a slight weight difference.
 
Yes, I see it. Crazy! Thanks everyone for your help. And btw, the videos from GOG are making me diamondstruck, gorgeous videos of sparkly diamonds. I can''t wait for my bf and I to decide on the diamond. Thanks to all of you, the BG is my first choice. The Infinity is the alternative, but perhaps the F color and Blue fluorescence is an aesthetic preference with a 3,000 price tag attached to it. That is up to the bf in the long run, if he really wants to splurge. I am sooo giddy with excitement.
 
We are glad to help. Please come back with pictures of the final product.
 
Date: 5/13/2009 3:17:07 PM
Author: jet2ks
We are glad to help. Please come back with pictures of the final product.
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Ditto!
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Date: 5/13/2009 1:53:22 PM
Author: pannini
Yes, I see it. Crazy! Thanks everyone for your help. And btw, the videos from GOG are making me diamondstruck, gorgeous videos of sparkly diamonds. I can't wait for my bf and I to decide on the diamond. Thanks to all of you, the BG is my first choice. The Infinity is the alternative, but perhaps the F color and Blue fluorescence is an aesthetic preference with a 3,000 price tag attached to it. That is up to the bf in the long run, if he really wants to splurge. I am sooo giddy with excitement.
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Wise choice :}
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Just for fun do you have a hearts image for the BG diamond?
 
Date: 5/13/2009 4:32:07 PM
Author: strmrdr
Date: 5/13/2009 1:53:22 PM

Author: pannini

Yes, I see it. Crazy! Thanks everyone for your help. And btw, the videos from GOG are making me diamondstruck, gorgeous videos of sparkly diamonds. I can''t wait for my bf and I to decide on the diamond. Thanks to all of you, the BG is my first choice. The Infinity is the alternative, but perhaps the F color and Blue fluorescence is an aesthetic preference with a 3,000 price tag attached to it. That is up to the bf in the long run, if he really wants to splurge. I am sooo giddy with excitement.
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Wise choice :}

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Just for fun do you have a hearts image for the BG diamond?
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Hi strmrdr,

Sorry it took me a bit to reply... here''s the hearts image:

H_AGS-10237701.jpg
 
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Date: 5/13/2009 1:53:22 PM
Author: pannini
Yes, I see it. Crazy! Thanks everyone for your help. And btw, the videos from GOG are making me diamondstruck, gorgeous videos of sparkly diamonds. I can''t wait for my bf and I to decide on the diamond. Thanks to all of you, the BG is my first choice. The Infinity is the alternative, but perhaps the F color and Blue fluorescence is an aesthetic preference with a 3,000 price tag attached to it. That is up to the bf in the long run, if he really wants to splurge. I am sooo giddy with excitement.
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I bet!
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You can''t go wrong either way. Let us know what you end up with!
 
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