Need feedback on this Asscher ASET

[AmeliaG]

I'm kinda new at this so I'm needing someone to help interpret this ASET.

It's from James Allen and the graduate gemologist says "this diamond is bright and has very nice light performance."

How does the cut look from this photo? Should I ask for an ASET with a white background?

Thanks.

 

[Gypsy]

the ASET is fine as is. Can you link me to the stone itself? I want to check something on the pictures.

 

[AmeliaG]

Thanks Gypsy.

I couldn't get a good JPG from JAs website page so here is the link to the page. You can see the picture in the VirtualLoupe.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS1-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1510148.asp

 

[Gypsy]

Yeah. It's SUPER DUPER DEEP and it's couples with a really thick girdle . So it is facing up TINY. It's probably discounted to reflect that. But at UNDER 5mm square-- the effect of the asscher is going to be well.... severely underwhelming. Is there a reason you are looking at this stone?


Look at this cushion (it's a lovely one): http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VVS2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1502638.asp weighs less and is HUGE in comparison.

 

[Gypsy]

THIS diamond faces up exactly the same as that 70 pointer you posted. And I BET it's cheaper! http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521512.asp

Plus I like the faceting better.

 

[AmeliaG]

Yeah, I need an Asscher that is visibly smaller than 6.2mm for an 3-Asscher pendant I'm having made. It's going to be the smallest Asscher in the pendant and the middle stone is a 6.2mm precision cut Asscher sapphire. The largest is a 6.75mm Asscher peridot - also precision cut with very good light performance. So with the excellent cut of these two stones, the quality of the cut of the diamond is of utmost importance.

I am open to looking at Asscher diamonds at up to 5.7mm but that is the absolute upper limit and it has to be an Asscher. The unique Asscher light performance in three different stones is the central focus of the pendant design and I want them to be a graduated size from diamond(smallest) to sapphire to peridot(largest). A cushion in this design would look like the odd man out.

ETA: We crossposted. Thanks for the new Asscher link. I still have two ASETS I can order from JA.

 

[AmeliaG]

THIS diamond faces up exactly the same as that 70 pointer you posted. And I BET it's cheaper! http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521512.asp

Plus I like the faceting better.

Yeah, I saw that. Is the dark band around the center a cause for concern?

 

[Gypsy]

THIS diamond faces up exactly the same as that 70 pointer you posted. And I BET it's cheaper! http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521512.asp

Plus I like the faceting better.

Yeah, I saw that. Is the dark band around the center a cause for concern?

The stone is tilted in the picture. It looks like it's a very nice stone. I won't know about the band until I see the ASET. And even then, facets flash on and off. That could just be an off angle.

 

[AmeliaG]

OK, thanks. I'll order that ASET. Grrr, it probably won't get in till Monday or Tuesday.

Did you see any other stones around that size that would be worthwhile to look at?

ETA: Yes it is definitely cheaper.

 

[Gypsy]

What's your max budget?

 

[AmeliaG]

$3000 absolute tops
Would prefer $2000

 

[ariel144]

It's small but the Megascope is very nice and in your budget $2300

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9700/

You might call on this one:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9400/

Here are two (earrings) 5x5 on ebay:
5x5 emerald cuts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261115454586?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

1c G SI1 GIA $3600 (over budget)...picture is ridiculous:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250452194344?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

[AmeliaG]

Thanks Ariel, I was just looking at that E VVS2 from GOG. it does look nice. Funny, though I have no problem paying a premium for D or E, I have a real problem paying the premium for a vvs1 or vvs2. But it's about the same size as the first one I posted and $700 less.

The size of the E VS1 looks lovely. I'm not good at reading Asscher ASETs other than to look for symmetry but both of these Asschers look good.

 

[Gypsy]

It's small but the Megascope is very nice and in your budget $2300

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9700/

You might call on this one:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9400/

Ask GOG if they'll do a video of both of these for you.

 

[Gypsy]

Since you get 3. I'd pick between these two for the third.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521524.asp The picture is ODD. And I think it's got a problem with the P3 facet and was cut to hit the .75 mark. So I have STRONG reservations. But there is a change it could be okay AND it's got decent spread.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS2-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1531144.asp Pretty facets. Even deeper than the original one you posted so it really faces up small-- about the same as that 60 pointer that's still my favorite because of the spread/price. But price was good on this one too so I thought I'd post it as a possibility.

 

[AmeliaG]

OK, I think I'll take a chance on the D Vs2.

I think John at GOG charges for videos but it can't hurt to ask.

 

[AmeliaG]

Got all the ASETs in and here is the JA gemologist's comments:

"Our gemologist was most impressed with diamond 1521524 (0.75crt D VS2). It has great light performance and slightly out-shines its competition. It is icy white in color and faces completely eye clean.

Diamond 1510148 (0.70crt D VS1), your previous recommendation, is comparable to diamond 1521524 in many ways and is ranked as a very close second. Its differences are rather subtle but the gemologist's trained eye found diamond 1521524 to be slightly brighter (even though the attached ASET shows some darker areas).

Diamond 1521512 (0.60crt E VS1) is also bright, eye clean, and appears white. While still bright; during comparison, this diamond was found to have the weakest performance."

Basically for light performance, the gemologist is recommending the spready 0.75 D VS2 stone that Gypsy had major reservations on and now that I see the ASET, I share those reservations.

The E VS1 appears to my untrained eye to have the least desireable ASET and also ranks third in the gemologist's ranking.

Honestly the ASET for my first choice, the 0.70 D VS1 looks best but as Gypsy said, its cut deep and I'm paying for weight I can't see. The gemologist also said it came in a close second.

So I don't know. I can order both the 0.75 and 0.70 and compare them in person but I'm not sure if its worth the effort. At this point, I don't see the point in ordering the E VS1.

 

[Gypsy]

Considering JA's shipping and return policy. I'd pay for both and return the one you don't want. But yeah, that D is spready so... that would be my choice since the gemologist liked it .

 

[Karl_K]

Static ASET does not tell the whole story.
It is just an indication of static brightness.
Life or if you want to get technical scintillation is just as important.
A diamond with less static brightness could have a lot more life and be the better looking diamond to the eye.
This is why in person observations and if you can get them video are so important with fancies.

Do you have the table size and crown height for them?

 

[Gypsy]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521524.asp is the 75 pointer Karl.

 

[Karl_K]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521524.asp is the 75 pointer Karl.

Thanks, I like the pic.
crown height would be interesting to know.

 

[AmeliaG]

Thanks Gypsy and Karl. I'll order the 0.70 and 0.75 and post some pics and videos.

 

[AmeliaG]

It was going to be too much for me to get both the 0.70 and 0.75 even just for evaluation purposes so I opted for the 0.75.

Luckily James Allen's offices are right around the corner from my apartment so I was able to visit them and pick the diamond today! I don't know if the pic shows it but the diamond looks very sparkly in person.

 

[Gypsy]

Looks very nice. How are you liking it in different light?

 

[AmeliaG]

I like it! Of course, today is very overcast so I can't view it in full sunlight. It looks much brighter in person but its easier to see the steps in the photo.

 

[Rhino]

Overcast days are IMHO the best to view diamonds in. Doesn't look bad and like the patterning in the pic you posted.

As an FYI GOG doesn't charge to shoot video. Only if we are having diamonds shipped/transported in for analysis we do ask for help on the transportation once until we've found what people are looking for. On diamonds that are already here we're happy to do whatever people would like to see.

All the best!
Jon

 

[AmeliaG]

Thanks Jon! That's good to know!

 

[AmeliaG]

If any one is interested, I just posted pics of all three Asschers together (diamond, sapphire, and peridot) in the Colored Stones forum.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3rd-asscher-somebody-slap-me-tell-me-to-set-these-babies.181261/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3rd-asscher-somebody-slap-me-tell-me-to-set-these-babies.181261/[/URL]

Man, I love Asschers!

 

[Gypsy]

If any one is interested, I just posted pics of all three Asschers together (diamond, sapphire, and peridot) in the Colored Stones forum.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3rd-asscher-somebody-slap-me-tell-me-to-set-these-babies.181261/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3rd-asscher-somebody-slap-me-tell-me-to-set-these-babies.181261/[/URL]

Man, I love Asschers!

WOW Amelia, it looks like a PERFECT coordinate for the other two stones in terms of the shape and proportions. I think you've got a keeper.

 

[AmeliaG]

Thanks Gypsy! Yes, I'm rather pleased with all of them together. The 0.75 carat turned out to be the perfect size. I admit I was rather surprised to be able to see the steps so clearly in such a small size. I had read here that you don't really see the steps below 1.5 carats. I was worried that the diamond would be not as spectacular as I wanted it to be. This was a really nice surprise!