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pxcurr01

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Hello all!

I am ready to make the jump and buy the ring! My future fiancé is wanting to do a simple emerald cut diamond solitaire with a knife edge white gold band such as the one in this link:

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-2.5mm-knife-edge-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-7214

I have a modest budget of $1550, so with this setting I have right around $1100 to play with for the stone itself (with this setting). I don't want to go any smaller than 0.5 carat, and she does NOT like tint, so trying to stay above an H or I in color.

I picked these three so far on James Allen, and hoped to have some insight from you all on here - my sister lurks these forums a ton and recommends this is the best way to make sure I'm looking at quality items! I'm open to any comments on the stones below, or if you have any recommendations on other options may work!

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.54-carat-f-color-vs1-clarity-sku-481831

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.51-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-439734

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.58-carat-g-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-368590

Thank you!!!!!!

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http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.54-carat-f-color-vs1-clarity-sku-481831
Symmetry looks off but may not be as noticeable in person. It also has one heck of a table, which is why the table glare is prominent. It's not an EC I can recommend.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.51-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-439734
Double check that it is eye clean due to the dark inclusion smack dab right on the table. Not sure why the facets are blurry but might hold promise.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.58-carat-g-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-368590
Deep stone with much of it on the pavilion, and not much on the crown. Looks okay but not nice enough to ask for a follow up.
 
This is great feedback. There is a 2mm knife edge band that if done would allow the stone budget to go up to about $1350 for the stone...any thoughts if I opened it up to this price range?

Thank you all!

P.
 
To Danielxlin, I'm not big on the square, we're looking at emeralds because she loves the elongating effect of the rectangle shape. The other one is nice

To Chrono, I LOVE the stone you recommended, looks amazing!
 
Gotta go but wanted a quick heads up to CALL James Allen to HOLD the ECs you love or it might not be available for much longer. Recommended stones get to get snatched up whilst the poster is trying to decide.
 
OK all, have three stones I like on hold, but the issue is that they are outside of NY, so James Allen can't provide ASETS for those three and recommended I look at the following stones that CAN have ASETS on...

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-g-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-301143

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-f-color-vs1-clarity-sku-490846

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.62-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-370711

Please tear apart if you have time! I greatly appreciate it!

P.
 
I don't like 2 or 3 at all. #1 might be ok. Get the Aset on that. I thought they could get assets for any stone on their site. Has that changed?
 
I was told the ones I had requested are at "diamond partners" outside of their NYC area, so they are unable to provide additional information on those.
 
pxcurr01|1429827730|3866755 said:
I was told the ones I had requested are at "diamond partners" outside of their NYC area, so they are unable to provide additional information on those.
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You can tell ones that can get asets by ones that are available to ship next business day (listed next to it)

This is a tad over budget but ask them about a refferal discount and see if maybe its closer to your budget with the 14k knife edge.

http://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/0.50-carat-f-color-vs1-clarity-sku-420607
 
diamondseeker2006|1429831765|3866798 said:
I think this one is beautiful of the three they suggested. I did not like the other two.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.62-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-370711

The one Niel just posted is gorgeous, too, but it is more square.
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Yeah, you're right thats more of an asscher style step cut, but with the budget constraints and color requirements, I thought it was worth sharing. Plus, its just about the prettiest step cut ive seen in a while!
 
Niel|1429832343|3866807 said:
diamondseeker2006|1429831765|3866798 said:
I think this one is beautiful of the three they suggested. I did not like the other two.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.62-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-370711

The one Niel just posted is gorgeous, too, but it is more square.
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Yeah, you're right thats more of an asscher style step cut, but with the budget constraints and color requirements, I thought it was worth sharing. Plus, its just about the prettiest step cut ive seen in a while!
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I LOVE it! Small table and gorgeous crown!!

(They have it really mislabelled as radiant in the web address!)
 
That stone is absolutely amazing, but I'm trying to stay away from the square stone, which is the only thing I dislike about the .62 F, she's really keen on the rectangle to elongate the finger.

What I have currently on hold are these three (if these links will work)

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-g-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-301143

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-414393

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.51-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-481232


Between these three, any concerns? While they couldn't provide ASET on these, they did give me a slightly more hands on word description that has me feeling better about 414393 and 481232.

I appreciate all the input thus far and any further you all have! You folks are great!
 
Here was their synopsis

Information I do see based on internal specifications of the diamonds based on the grading report, the video of the diamond which is 520 images of the diamond at different angle and signs of light performance.

Diamond SKU # 414393 : The near colorless diamond will have a clean appearance, will be eye-clean and will great spread of light with a visible elongation.

Diamond SKU # 495760 : The higher graded near-colorless diamond will be eye-clean , will have noticeable spread of light but shows sign of some light loss.
A sign of this is when there is a visible darkness going from north to south in the face-up position where is light that is trapped within the diamond coming from two angles.

Diamond SKU # 481232 : The colorless emerald cut diamonds will be eye-clean with visible spread of light, a great amount of light performance, visible whiter diamond than diamond SKU # 414393 and not so visible to diamond SKU # 495760. There is some possible light loss in the diamond ; which is shown in the face-up position going north to south ; but will not effect the diamond as much as diamond SKU # 495760 .
 
The H (414393) shows a lot of color which would lead me to think it may be a low H. The table is at the upper limit for me, and the crown looks low.

The G (495760) needs an ASET, as they all do, but has a nice table size and crown.

The F VS2 (481232) has so much obstruction that I would not consider it especially without an ASET. You want to see less black when the stone turns on the video. Plus, it has a big table.

Of these three, if I had to buy without an ASET, I guess I'd choose the G (495760). But I'd probably limit my search to stones for which they can provide ASETs, personally.
 
diamondseeker2006|1429837247|3866876 said:
The H (414393) shows a lot of color which would lead me to think it may be a low H. The table is at the upper limit for me, and the crown looks low.

The G (495760) needs an ASET, as they all do, but has a nice table size and crown.

The F VS2 (481232) has so much obstruction that I would not consider it especially without an ASET. You want to see less black when the stone turns on the video. Plus, it has a big table.

Of these three, if I had to buy without an ASET, I guess I'd choose the G (495760). But I'd probably limit my search to stones for which they can provide ASETs, personally.
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They are able to provide on on 301143 (http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-g-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-301143) - without having that info, any red flags raised on this stone?

All the information you're providing is a huge help all!
 
JA has the habit of evaluating the EC in the incorrect orientation, EC standing up instead of laying down to emulate the performance when the diamond is worn, so I double check to make sure their opinion is based on that orientation.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-g-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-301143
Has potential.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-414393
Nice pattern but crown is kind of low.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.51-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-481232
Table isn't in my sweet zone but could have potential.

I still would not order any of these without an ASET. It is another means to back up what we see in the video.
 
Alrighty, getting ASET on these three - should have results in a few days, but want the zen-like opinions you all present:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-g-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-301143

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.62-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-370711 (i know this is squarer than what i've been seeing, but maybe it won't look as square in real life...)

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/0.50-carat-d-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-154605


I'm not necessarily keen on paying a VVS premium when it may not be needed, but I figured I can get the specs on it, and go from there.

Thanks all!
 
Thanks!

I can't make any changes until this round of ASETS come back, but does anyone have any other recommendations? (on these stones or potentially others?)
 
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